ATX vs AT

[Win_98]

For 5 years I been building AT cases
and didn't realize that ATX is much much better!!!
It more roomier, and take the headace out
of plugging in parallel/com port connector
as on AT case.
The cases cost a little more but
it also bigger and has more slot for harddrive, since it so roomy in there, it will
run cooler too.
I like the fact that powerful motherboard only exist on ATX while crappy one are
on AT...
AT will soon be obsolete.
As soon as us poor folks move over to ATX. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[OuTpaTienT]

I've found not much (if any) price difference in AT vs ATX. Nor is there any difference in size of case. hmmmm, maybe you've just been buying crappy AT cases? But it is nice having so many of the ports built-in. And the motherboard/OS controling the power is kinda cool. Overall, ATX form factor is better.

[rrick31]

me too. i think all the motherboards are all going to be ATX.i have not seen a AT style motherboard for amd or intel.and it does make it easier to assemble.

[wtp]

yeah, i'm planning on building my next system using the ATX platform.

wtp

[Win_98]

ATX case rocks, it is actually quieter too
due to the bigger room inside.
The cost now are almost the same
between ATX and AT motherboard
The case is only 9 dollars differences
21 mid at, 29.99 mid atx
BTW: I think most newer AT motherboard will fit in a ATX cases too
or vice versa. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
So if you have AT motherboad switching it
to ATX cases shouldn't be a problem
Should you need more room and yes I just love the way they layout the pan for the motherboard, it easier too.
All my newer motherboard AT
support ATX cases, which is cool I plan on using ATX later in the future on all my case
replacement if it ever dies out. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[wtp]

actually, you quoted "it's quieter too, due to the bigger room in the inside". It doesn't depend on the form factor, it depends on the size case you get. Since you said, bigger room in the inside, I assume you are talking about a Full Tower. There is NO BIG difference in how ATX and AT cases are. The only difference is how it's set up.

wtp

[OuTpaTienT]

you said: BTW: I think most newer AT motherboard will fit in a ATX cases too
or vice versa.
So if you have AT motherboad switching it
to ATX cases shouldn't be a problem

Well, yes it would be a problem. An AT motherboard has a different power connection, therefore it won't work in an ATX case unless you dump the power supply and add an AT power supply.

[krusty the klown]

I think you can do it the other way round - several AT Soyo SS7 boards that I built had both AT and ATX power connectors. I never tried using ATX power with the AT mobos, 'cos at the time, we only had AT cases!

[rrick31]

most of the new motherboards do come with dual power source plug in,even the all everything mother boards,i am putting together a asus p5ab for myself and at has the atx power supply plug in.

[Fingers]

Current Intel processors don't work in AT cases, but I'm guessing your an AMD person anyway.

Here's the way PCWorld see's it. http://pcworld.com/current_issue/article/0,1212,12995+9+1,00.html

[Win_98]

What I'm saying, ATX case is 50 percent bigger then AT case trust me it biggger I got them both sitting right here.
dat why they cost more and yes backward compatible with most AT motherboard that has
dual powersupply...
THe more expensive one is even bigger by 10 percent!
Having an extra bay for a total of 4 bay
and it still med case.
If I am to pay a little more for brand name
Like I said, for future case replacement I'm going with all atx cause all my AT motherboard support it

[nvksmt]

ROTFLMFAO.

OK, look. The size of the case depends on what? THE SIZE OF THE CASE.

Sure, maybe the ATX case you got is bigger than the AT case you had. But, I could find you an ATX case smaller than your AT case. Hell, they sell cases that have a replacable backplate (for AT or ATX mobo) and have no power supply (u put in an AT or ATX). Those cases are either AT or ATX, whichever you choose. I also give you my personal gurantee that when you put an ATX backplate and powersupply in it, IT DOESNT GROW.

[alondra]

at or atx is not a size in inches, it is a type, saw a ford the other day bigger than some models of cad. think about it

[Missing the point]

If you are comparing a 15" AT to a 24" ATX, then, yeah, I think the ATX would be bigger inside, but if ya compare a 19" AT and a 19" ATX, THEY ARE THE SAME!!!!!!

[Win_98]

Correct me If I am wrong.
But I've only seen baby sized AT Mobo
or baby/full size ATX mobo
but not fullsize AT mobo.
The place where I buy it from has puny
at cases, and atx case are all giant size.
So that where I get the impression from.
You must talking about more expensive AT cases which I do not buy because I'm buying very cheap generic cases only ranging from 21 to 29.99 http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
Oh, one more thing, you wouldn't want
to mail order these thing would you?
It would cost twice as much as buying it locally.



[This message has been edited by Win_98 (edited 07-04-2000).]

[Fingers]

Heres the deal Win_98.

AT Mini-Tower cases are the SAME size as ATX Mini-Tower cases.
AT Mid-Tower cases are the SAME size as ATX Mid-Tower cases.
AT Full-Tower cases are the SAME size as ATX Full-Tower cases.

You can buy a Mini,Mid,or Full Tower case for AT motherboards.
You can also buy a Mini,Mid,or Full Tower case for ATX motherboards.

The main PHYSICAL difference between AT and ATX motherboards is that the connectors(ie. parallel,serial,USB,keyboard,mouse etc.) are part of the motherboard, and this has nothing to do with size. An ATX mobo requires an ATX compatible case so these connectors fit through the back of the case.

Please visit at least one of the following. http://www.supermicro.com/ http://www.apextechusa.com/ http://www.antec-inc.com/product/cases/en_case.html

[alondra]

maybe your customers would appreciate decent cases?

[drn]

try are wider than most at cases i have built about 500 or 600 of both in many brand names and 99% are wider than the at form

[wtp]

yes. Win_98, to clarify something here, ATX and AT are names for form factors. They are not used for sizes. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

wtp http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[Win_98]

Oops I made a mistake again today buying
AT cases, it was 25 buck, called super mid AT but still not as good as ATX Cheap 29 bucks
It doesn't have sliding panel, 2 way, it is instead take off the cover off the entire case. A pain indeed.
The tray for the motherboard was crooked,
had a hard time putting in my new motherboard.
What was I thinking?!
http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif Folks, there no point in returning this one if i'm not satisfied, i'll have to live with what can do.
Bottom line is I had an easy time with ATX cases, if you say just form factor no
they are quite different where ATX
has backward compatible with AT MOBO
which I forgot.
Could be all due to the crappy AT cases that I had that cause my motherboard not to work.
The tray are either mini size, or full sized
and are uneven. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif
I did look at the more expensive
case AT for 49 buck but are still smaller
then ATX cheap cases, oh I mean not as wide
but look the same size.

[dexmax]

Well AT cases are available in all sizes similar to ATX cases. Its true that most AT mobos fit into ATX cases, this is due to the fact that some mobos support both platforms. AT mobos are small and most of them is square, ATX mobos are Rectangular. That's why you can't see small ATX cases.

A few years ago I was going to buy an AT case w/ a 300W supply. It had 5 5 1/4 racks and 4 3 1/2 racks. Imagine how tall is that. But at that time it was too expensive so I bought the smaller one, about a size of a MID-tower.