You computer will last alot longer if...

[Win_98]

You turn it off when not in used.
It make sense to me that the harddrive spining in a heavy use does seem to get bad sectors alot faster if you have your computer on 24hrs a day.
Just think of it as a person having to be on 24hrs a day, remember machine aren't as expendable as we think they are.
They heat up,tear and wear.
If you talking about putting it in standby mode then that same as turning it off only
the case fan is still on.
Some have to leave it on 24hrs a day if you don't have much of a choice saying running a server but for everyday use it may just sit
there doing nothing while it is on so
what the point?
Maybe we are just too lazy to turn it off
I use to be like that but I have changed,
I no longer leave it on.
Let it rest, it deserves it and go to sleep at the same time as you do. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
I guess I let it end here because I have so much to say it could even fill an entire dictionary.

[Warthog]

****. You just want that Senior member status, don't you? Post after post. I thought your rapid posting days were over.

There's a huge thread about this somewhere...

Warthog

[chipbgt]

imagine turning a car on and off for 5 hours versus driving it for five hours. or stop and go traffic versus a smooth ride. I am not saying your wrong, but I will contine to have my computer on 24/7.

[Faramir]

Warthog I think SYSOPT can handle that can't they, if that's what's going on? Directing him with a link would probably be a better idea.

[Win_98]

Just as I thought.
I am a little disappointed how one jump on me.
Aren't we all paranoid here?
Dude this has nothing to do with post count,
maybe you just want no one to say anything
that doesn't interest you! Sheesh.


[This message has been edited by Win_98 (edited 06-19-2000).]

[wtp]

actually, leaving it on is better. Harddrive wear will occur of it's turned off and on. Leaving it off will prolong life, but duh, it's cuz your not using it. But who does that nowa days?

wtp

[chipbgt]

Hey Win_98, a better response would have been to ignore it and stick with the issue at hand...leaving the computer on or off.

I found a story that dealt with this, it said that there is more threat to your system when turning it on and off constantly because of things like power shortages and such.

[This message has been edited by chipbgt (edited 06-19-2000).]

[Win_98]

This really bugs me, how someone is so easily jealous of a few post.
BTW: There no difference between member, senior, ultimate.
It just mean you been here longer and posted more.
How many post do I make in a day?!
He is off topic and I don't want to get into that sort of thing just get worst and worst.
I'm trying to having a good discussion here.
Hearing people opinion about it.
I am sitting here staring at the monitor
for 1 hours because how much this bothering me.
Why do some people have to get so serious,
I feel alot of pressure coming my way and it is giving me a hard time. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
It the same people who are mad at me in the past and now they are coming to haunt me.
Man that is scary.
Let just end this bc and continue on with
this discussion.
If people reply like crazy to this then cool
is what I like. Heeheehee.
Basically I'm trying to enjoy myself here.
I do have a life, and I am learning at a slower pace then some people do so I may seem dumb to some people.

[chipbgt]

I'll say it again....

"Hey Win_98, a better response would have been to ignore it and stick with the issue at hand...leaving the computer on or off."

[Win_98]

Thank You very much chipbgt.
I understand, how paranoid we all are.
I will keep it to myself and find some other places that will discuess about this.
Strange how one is so easily offended.

Here is to show you that I'm not trying to get post count and I will edit the message and add more to it if it make some people happy. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Jad1097, you are so right.
Hehehe, you actually understood that
I wasn't try to offend anyone. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
Yes I want to hear some people that have it on and people that have it off and see 2 different thing they say.
I have an open mind I just love to hear them. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif
I see you do have a little sense of humor
and it is somewhat funny. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif


[This message has been edited by Win_98 (edited 06-19-2000).]

[jad1097]

Win Why not just start change your advice into questions and I think you will not get these king of wise ***** answers.

If the title were Would turning my computer off make it last longer. That would be a logical question.

And yes this has been discussed several times. Do a search for 24/7

I leave mine on 24/7

One day I will remember that spill ckek

[This message has been edited by jad1097 (edited 06-19-2000).]

[OuTpaTienT]

Me too, leave mine only 24/7.

Except for the recent heat wave we experienced...it was hotter outside than normally it is on the surface of my CPU...high temp during the heat wave was 113°F! And me with no air conditioning, ouch! Even at night when I turned the system on the coolest I could get the CPU was 115°F. But that didn't last long...right now it's back to normal...CPU running at 98-99°F

Sorry for rambling there. BTW, my boss leaves all the systems in the office running 24/7. That's a network of 12 PCs, 1 main server, 1 backup server, 1 Linux box used as a firewall, and 1 PC for the voice mail system...16 rigs total all up 24/7.

[skai]

I turn mine off when I go to bed I dont trust surge protecters and I like to turn off if it looks like lightning but I think that leaving it on saves wear and tear on the hdd and less chance of boot probs
cheers skai

[SysOpt]

I have an Athlon 800 system, an Athlon 700, a P3-800, and two C-450's, and they are all on 24/7. I have had the same practice for YEARS. There is no harm to leaving them on IMO. More wear is put on the systems when they are turned off and on again than if they were just left on. Besides, our RC5 numbers would be pathetic without 24/7
cracking.

Regarding the above post, get a UPS. I use three for my systems and they work great. Never been hit by lightning, however, but I'm not going to sit around worrying about it.

Scott

[This message has been edited by SysOpt (edited 06-20-2000).]

[SysOpt]

The numerous previous discussions:
http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/006484.html

[Pat Cusick]

Too bad you got jumped on just for asking a question. I thought that was what this forum was all about. As far as I am concerned, ask away.

[Ultima]

I have my system on 24/7 for the last 35 days, cause that is when I started cracking rc5!!!

The dumping block thing is so addicting that I don't wanna turn it off, cause it would affect my rc5 score!!!LOL

Pim

[SoopaStar]

I know this is off topic and should be put in the distributed computing section buuuut:
what is the dumping block? I have been cracking the RC5 for overa year now...have it running on a ton of computer (its nice working for a university and that hidden mode..he.he.he...)
Paul

[BBA]

I leave 2 of mine on...one is a Q3A game server and the other is my main one...so I don't have to wait for it to boot up when I get in.

My hard drives do not stay running all the time ( they power down after 20 minutes )...only my fans do stay on. I have replaced fans in it before, no problem there.

I guess it's still a matter of personal judgement on this issue.

[Ultima]

Soopastar,

sorry if I was a little vague, but I meant just the process of dumping the blocks you checked, which count up on yer total list!!

Pim

[jman01pa]

Glad we all are friends now.

Since I upgraded to Win 2000 I leave my system on 24/7. Under Win 98/95 I had to shut down regularly due to programs not releasing memory. All better now. I believe Microsoft moved up a notch with Win 2000. Now just let the rest of the world catchup.

J http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[Warthog]

I apologize, but I made my decision by your previous posts at Sysopt about a month ago. They were junk. Also, the immature bs you wrote about a fellow member. Yes, it would've been a better idea to phrase it into a question.

Warthog

[ablang]

Where I used to work, our boss made us shut off our computers before we left to go home. But I doubt it was to make the computer live longer. Heck, they will become obsolete long before you want them around anyway.

No, I think it was because a computer couldn't be hacked into, if it was turned OFF. Hey, our security sucked!

[rh71]

I heard that the technical reason behind this decision was heat and how it wears on your chips & other components. Everytime you turn the machine on, it is heating back up (from a cool room temp.) and causing parts greater harm than good. Leaving the machine on would obviously not strain parts moreso than it already has. I fear for going into details because I simply don't know about electronics, but that's the reasoning behind it.

I do system standby every night and make sure CPUIdle is running... the power button is on 24/7... I don't know if standby mode will technically solve the heat expansion problem but it's certainly better than a total powerdown, IMO.

[Krymson]

Wut about the moniter? I left my moniter on 24/7 for the first two years i had it, but now its like flashing and dimming and going to hell, even though it had standby mode. Im getting a new 17" one and Im wondering if I should turn it off when im not using it even if it has standby mode?

Oh by the way, the moniter thats bumming out on me is a IBM G40( I think its 14"). The crappiest part is that it has these weird star shaped screws that you cant unscrew with a regular philips screwdriver.

[rh71]

I definitely turn the monitor OFF whenever I leave it for more than an hour. But I'd certainly like to hear an argument for not doing so... I just bought a Viewsonic brand new and wouldn't want to accelerate its degradation.

[Warthog]

I'm assuming you mean the screws are Torx 'cause they are star shaped.

Warthog

[OuTpaTienT]

You should get a tool kit that has a changable tip screwdriver and ALL the various tips, like Torx (star), hex, square, phillips and flat.

And about powering down the monitor, it's certainly a good idea but if you use the power management capabilities of your system to turn off the monitor it's the "same difference". http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[SDT]

Outpatient... If his monitor is anything like my old IBM then the screws are torx, but with a twist... They have a dimple in the middle of them that prevents you from using a torx driver bit to undo them. I ended up drilling the heads off of mine and replacing them with regular philips screws.

edit... both of my systems are on 7/24. My large systems experience is that disk drives mostly fail when they are being powered on not while they are running.

[This message has been edited by SDT (edited 06-23-2000).]

[Dputiger]

I'm not sure it matters, much, honestly. When a drive is in standby mode, it isn't spinning--and when a computer is just sitting idle, a drive generally won't be spinning much (if at all) either.

Likewise, a power surge can hit your computer at any time, whether its on or off. A strong power surge can, in theory, damage a machine even if the machine is not turned on--as long as the machine is plugged in.

I've got a hard drive that's fifteen years old that still works perfectly--I've had drives that are two years old that blew out. I think it depends on the quality of the hardware that you buy.