Any CAR AUDIO freaks?

[Anakhonda]

Anybody here into car audio? I'm just learning the basics right now, and I'm looking for any good 'educational' web-sites that you may know of.

I've been all over www.sounddomain.com (http://www.sounddomain.com) and it kicks ****, but they don't have many resourses for a beginner.

[shadow]

You may enjoy this forum:
http://www.corral.net/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro&BypassCookie=true

[pickel]

The best car audio is the sweet sound of horespower coming out the dual exhausts. Not too loud , but brash and expressive. The bigger the motor the better the sound. Just listening to all those different mechanics in soulful harmony. Music to the ears !!! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

the pickel

[psyklone]

i'm totally into any type of audio. i used to run a business (co-founder) and all we did was specialize in competition car audio systems and home theater design and installation. i don't know of any websites off-hand but i'll look for ya.

http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[Eli]

I'm with pickel on this one. I'd take the roar of a nice 350 or a big block over a tricked out stereo any day. And you'd never see one of those silly little resonator tailpipes on my car. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif

[ILC]

You said it pickel. Nothing like the sound of a muscle car with a good exhaust on it. Personally my two favorites are duel straight pipes off of a magnum V8, and also just the stock sound of a cummins turbo diesel.

ILC

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

very true, the sound of the 350 with a 4 barrel carb and duel exhaust on my 78' Chevy does sound so sweet, heh

now if only I had enough time/money to upgrade my pc and my truck at the same time....

Anakhonda, you ever check out "Crutchfield"? Some of the prices are a little disturbing but there's some nice car audio systems you could build with the equimpment they have.

[jad1097]

My CHevell souned sweet with the 2 1/2" pipes headers and of course a set of FLow Masters!

But then again the system sounded just as sweet. 2 10" Kickers 6 1/2" Boston Acoustic pro series separates and a Alpine head and of course Lanzar and hiphoinics amps!

[elite]

I hate to plug our site but http://www.elitecaraudio.com

-Brian

[jad1097]

Forgot to give ya some links!

http://www.caraudiomag.com/

http://www.carsound.com/index.shtml

http://www.carstereos.org/


BTW' Nice site ya got there elite http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif.



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[F=ma]

Pickel: The best car audio is the sweet sound of horespower coming out the dual exhausts. Not too loud ,
but brash and expressive. The bigger the motor the better the sound. Just listening to all those
different mechanics in soulful harmony. Music to the ears !!!

ILC: Nothing like the sound of a muscle car with a good exhaust on it. Personally my
two favorites are duel straight pipes off of a magnum V8, and also just the stock sound of a
cummins turbo diesel.

I'd like to add to the list a purge valve on a 150 shot of juice and a Blow off Valve at 28psi. Displacement isn't everything. Forced Induction very well can be.

[ILC]

Lol never thought of those.

[F=ma]

Lol never thought of those
...Famous losing words of a Viper against a 2Bar Supra squeezing 200.

[This message has been edited by F=ma (edited 05-31-2000).]

[SoopaStar]

I agree to both counts. I dig car audio and racing. I have a 1991 Eagle Talon TSi that I am juicing up. just got a 3" catback, 3" test pipe, 3" downpipe and a warlock exhaust with a 3.5" tip. Also just got my autometer boost and A/F gauges and double gauge pod for my A Pillar. Installed a Blitz Dual Turbo Timer/gauge last Xmas. Other things on it as well. Got some pics if anyone is interested. I am a member of gateway.dsm.org (http://gateway.dsm.org) .
I also have the following car stereo equipment:
Pioneer DEH 8000 cd player
MB Quart 5.25" woofer and 1" tweeter component set with the Musicomp Crossovers
MB Quart 6x9 referenz co-ax's in the rear
Coustic 220 bridged to 300 to push my:
2 10" Kove Audio KXPII comp. subs (running in a series and parallel on the amp)
Coustic 420x pushing the front speakers.
Rockford Fosgate 1 farad capacitor
Also have some things I have installed yet..like a pheonix gold balanced line driver and a coustic Xover with a center channel output. Trying to focus on the engine work right now. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif Still haven't raced the car or taken it into any car audio competitions...guess i am just lazy http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif

Paul C

[F=ma]

what do you think your 1320 is?

[weestro]

Yaaa baby!! Nothing sounds like my '99 Trans Am with B&B Triflow!!! It's got that deep, powerful, gurgly goodness!!

[SoopaStar]

1320? i assume that means 1/4 mile. I am aiming for low 13's after I get all my stuff completely installed.

Paul

[F=ma]

Is your Talon AWD?
You should invest your $$ in a Huge-*** turbo and a Boost Controller. That'll get you as fast as you can without having to build the bottom end.

Btw what compression is your eclipse running, and how much boost stock?

[ablang]

I used to be a car audio freank, but I no longer wanna give thieves the satisfaction, so I just keep it simple now. Just a receiver now.

[dkozloski]

I was driving down Wilshire Blvd. in Los Angeles in 1980 at about 2:00AM when I heard this howling noise that raised the hair on the back of my neck as it echoed off the surrounding tall buildings. The source proved to be a Red Ferrari with the license plate number 250LM which is what it was. The last of those I heard auctioned off for about $2million. The sound alone was worth that much and the owner obviously had the same opinion.

[SoopaStar]

My talon is AWD. It has a stock 14b turbo. I don't have the boost gauge installed, but I have heard people pushing as much as 20lbs of boost through them (with the proper intercooler and stuff). My next purchase is an MBC (Manual boost coontroller). I don't feel like shelling out the $250+ for an electronic one when I can just use a manual controller for $70 or so (not a homemade one).
Paul

[Inferior]

I like the balance of the two myself....

Something like a 69 Chevy Corvette with a 427 cubic inch motor producing 450 horsepower, and two 18 inch Cerwin Vega Strokers coming in at 1600 watts a piece I think would sound pretty **** good?

If you wanna see these serious subs, go here: http://www.cerwinvega.com/products/index.html

These subs are simply the best...

Oh, and by the way, as the old saying goes, "There's no replacement for displacement".... This saying is so very true, because no **** little puny 4 cylinder turbo-charged engine can produce such a sweet low rumble as a big block V8... oh yeah baby.....

[F=ma]

Inferior: no **** little puny 4 cylinder turbo-charged engine can produce
such a sweet low rumble as a big block V8... oh yeah baby.....

While I do agree with you that the sound of a V8 definitely over bears a blown 4 banger, the sound of a car is a very poor judgement of how fast it is... Turbo 4's drop down into the 11's and 12's not uncommonly. GSX's for example. And by most standards 11 isn't slow.

[Inferior]

When did I say that a car with a turbo-charged 4 banger isn't fast.

Thats not what I was saying, I said I love the deep rumble of a v8 more thats all...

Sure look at the Honda S2000, 4 cylinder with 240 horspower!!! That baby is fast!!!

But still doesn't have near the torque that a 427 has... http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[F=ma]

Granted, Inferior, you did not say that blown 4's are slow, BUT you did say that "There's no replacement for displacement", and anytime I've heard that, its been by some hot headed domestic owner trying to make a point that 4's will never be able to do the things that 8's can. Which is untrue. In reality the only thing you're saying when you say "There's no repla...balhblahablah" is that 4's arent 8's. Period. Which is true. Import Enthusiasts could just as well say "There's not replacement for Forced Induction" (I guess it doesn't have that grammatical device working for it, but the point remains) The two phrases mean the same thing.

[Inferior]

Well, if a four banger gets all its guts from forced injection, than just do it to a V8, and it'll eat the little four cylinder.....

There's no way in hell that a four cylinder will ever be able to meet the power of a "BIGGER" eight cylinder....

Just look at dragsters or monster trucks, if you put a four banger in either of those, than their performance would be no fun to watch...

It must be the male thing with size, bigger is better.... http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif At least when it comes to internal combustion engines....

[Eli]

I'd agree with Inferior. With the money it would take to squeeze some respectable power out of a four banger you could've just bought a nice eight in the first place. That's why I laugh at these little civic guys. If they had bought a Camaro in the first place they'd have saved a lot of money and have a far nicer car to show for it. Oh well, to each his own (or something like that).

[hd581]

"There's [no] replacement for Forced Induction" (I guess it doesn't have that grammatical device working for it, but the point remains)Geez, just say "it doesn't rhyme". We're computer geeks, not english teachers. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif

[F=ma]

In general, it is believed that most domestic cars are less reliable than most imports.

(typical response from domestic owner: "well I've owned 3 vettes, a chevelle, couple camaro's and some ford superduty's.. blah blah blah 300,000 miles...")
I don't care how many individual cases ppl have experienced with reliable domestics, as a population they are less reliable vehicles. Which granted may not be the primary concern of many drivers, but to me it is, and apparently to those drivers who opted for a Civic Si, or an Integra Type-R or an Eclipse GSX (oh such slow cars) over Camaro's and the like.

Take everything with a grain of salt.

2¢

[Eli]

Sure, there are more domestic junkers out there. Of course there is, there are more domestic cars here than imports to begin with, so of course a larger number break down. Percentage-wise it's probably fairly even. That said, you go by personal preference. I'd take a Camaro (any year) over the cars you mentioned any day.

[Inferior]

Man, thats so d*mn true.....

I hate those guys who go blow a mint on doing up something like a civic when it still don't got near the jam of a "stock" Corvette....

And to get back to the point, no matter what you do to a four banger, it still sounds like ****... http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Trust me, my family owned engines of all kinds... And the V8's come out on top!!!

Except for fuel economy... http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Inferior (edited 06-03-2000).]

[Eli]

Inferior my friend, the world (well my neighborhood) needs more people like yourself... There's way too many of those silly little cars around here.

[dkozloski]

There are Mazda rotaries, 1300cc (78cu.in.) In street trim that will run the quarter in the high 8's and low 9's. Low 11's are mundane. Cars in Nascar's Goody's dash series are fours and V-sixes and will approach speeds of 180MPH. The four cylinder motors used in midgets put out astounding amounts of power. Five cylinder Audi's absolutely dominated in the Trans Am championship. These were stock bodied cars when all the competition such as Mustangs, Camaros, and AMC used tube frame chassis's and fiberglass bodywork. Formula one was dominated for years by four cylinder Coventry Climax DOHC fours that began life as a forklit engine. Any jerk can take a huge motor and get power out of it but it takes brains, ingenuity, resourcefulness, and craftsmanship to do the same thing with a much smaller and more efficient powerplant. In the 1960's a guy took a little purpose built sports car called a Genie, made in San Francisco and put a Mk55H Mercury outboard Quincy Welding Works loop scavanged engine in it by using a Fiat transaxle rotated 90 deg. This 45 cu.in. engine produced 135HP on gas and the whole car weighed less than 800lbs. He won over 20 races in a row in the SCCA.

[neo_otyugh]

there is no replacement for displacement is soooo true...take your 4 cylinder engine and put a turbo on it and the whole nine yards, rebuild it and you can get your 1.7 liter engine to do maybe 400hp tops?
ok now take that 5.0 ford engine and do the same, turbo it and rebuild it to handle high boost and what do you get...? 1200 horsepower??? hmmm
true you can get a lot out of 4 cylinders, but but with the same amount of effort you will make more total horsepower with more engine to work with...
btw i drive a honda with a cold air intake, 2.25" exhaust, advanced timing and lowered 2.5", as well as an 8 speaker system i built myself (and it sounds good too...the exhaust and the system)

[dkozloski]

neo_otyugh, I agree that all things being equal there is no substitute for cubic inches but my engineering and scientific nature forces me to admire the smaller and more efficient effort. Somehow, dragging around a large mass of cast iron seems a little wasteful.

[Inferior]

But a four banger is quite literally "half" the engine a V8 is..... http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

[Gutter Ball]

This isn't really related to this, but that's why I posted my "what's the difference between..." speaker post here. Those "car" forums(which shall remain nameless http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif ) always turn into a "My Mustang/Camaro/etc will eat your Integra/MR2/etc" and "your car is a POS and my car is this and that" arguments and well, no one gets any help to their original question!! :/

At least the discussions here are civil! My buddy likes his Mustang GT with a hollowed cat and I like my Accord with a SS cat back. Heehee, we both "sound" the same, but his is all engine and mine is all exhaust. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif In the winter, he slides all over the place and I can drive in a straight line http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif Either way, we wouldn't ever trade for each other's car! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

We all know that US V8 muscle cars can fly, but everybody knows that 4 bangers can't. So a tricked up Civic or whatever has a "shock" value! http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

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[Tex_Gex]

Be careful I'm huge fan of Drag racing, don't get me started !!!!!!!!!

You Guys want to hear some horsepower go to the NHRA Drag Races. In the Top classes they run 500 cubic inch small blocks on blown nitro methane. They produce 7000 Horses baby !!!!!!!!! and They do the quarter mile in 4.6 seconds at 320 mph.....

Check you local listings there are on espn2 almost every weekend...

P.S. If you go to the races bring really good ear plugs !!!