Anyone who solves my problem I will revere as a god (j/k)

[Ruahrc]

Here's the deal:

Windows runs great, no problems at all.

All my games either lock, boot me to the desktop, or quit in some form of error.

I reinstalled, reformatted, redid everything twice, still same problem. I've replaced every piece of hardware in my system save my HDD with no answer. I've upgraded from a KA7+700 to A7V+1000. No answer. I've checked for overheating but there isn't any.

I do however, think it is a problem with my sound drivers, because if I take my sound card out, or disable the drivers, the games will run with no errors.

Asus A7V
Tbird 1000@1000
GeForce2 MX @ 175/200 w/custom cooling
SBLive! Value
128MB PC133
WDC 20.5GB HDD

Drivers/Software:
W98SE
Det3 6.31's
Live!Ware 3.0 with updated driver set
Diablo2 1.04B
UT 4.36
Worms Armageddon (install version I don't know what it is exactly)

What is going on?

Ruahrc

[jamis]

Have you tried reinstalling your sound card drivers from the Creative website? If so, have you tried the older ones that came with the card?

Also, have you tried reinstalling the newest DirectX?

[Warthog]

Exactly what I would suggest.

Play around with your soundcard drivers. What version of DX do you have?

Warthog

[Ruahrc]

I installed DX8 but thought it was messing my system up, so I downloaded an uninstaller and reinstalled 7.0a. I tried reinstalling my sound drivers, and am in the process of re-downloading liveware. I also tried replacing my emu10k1.vxd and mmdevldr.vxd with older versions but that didn't fix it either. I ran SFC and it said setupx.dll and user.exe were corrupted but I looked at those files and the ones that I had were of the exact same size as the ones I restored from the CD, but the only difference was that the create date was unknown. Restoring the two files didn't seem to help either.

Ruahrc

[ram]

Hmm well i have one game that wont play with SB!Live at all,im thinking you need new drivers for that card.by the way the game i cant play is Soilder of fortune.So i went out and got a Pci128 SB,works okay now.

[qball]

For the A7V, the PCI slots share resources with the AGP slot and USB ports. Stating this, make sure your SBLive! is in PCI slot 3.

[Dputiger]

Also, check your IRQ's--I'm betting money that you've got an IRQ conflict between two components.

[blubomber]

I have the Asus A7V with the SBLive Value. One thing that was in the instructions for the SBLive was to go into bios and set IRQ 5(i think) to Legacy device, otherwise it might cause some conflicts.

[Ruahrc]

As of now, my sblive is in slot 4 and my modem in 5 (right next to the AMR slot). I originally had the modem in 3 and sc in 4 but the computer would freeze upon boot. Moving it to 5 fixed that problem. I will try moving the sc to 3 and reserving irq5 though.

Here's my current IRQ layout

00-system timer
01-keyboard
03...all the usual stuff
5 is my modem
5 is also my sblive
5 is also both my USB host controllers
5 also has a ACPI IRQ holder for PCI IRQ Steering
6 is my floppy (Is there an option to disable this in BIOS because I have no floppy devices in my system and it's another IRQ)
7 is my LPT (Also sharing with SB16EMulation)
8 is the clock
9 is SCI IRQ Used by ACPI Bus
10 is my Promise controller
10 also has the ACPI IRQ steering thing
11 is my MX
11 is also another IRQ Steering device
The rest is normal to a computer

Ruahrc

[This message has been edited by Ruahrc (edited 01-02-2001).]

[voogru]

How do you find out where all the IRQ's are assained to? I have a A7V and i may experiance one of these problems. so How can I find out for example... which IRQ is my PCI modem on?

thanks...

-voogru

[Ilya_S_K]

"...Safe IRQs are 5,10,11,15; avoid the others. You'll probably need to use these for:
Your sound card (If it's an 8-bit, then your only option is IRQ5.) ..." Expert guide to Windows98 by M.Minasi, E.Christianses, K.Shapar

[Dputiger]

Try disabling SB16 emulation.

Back in DOS mode, devices didn't like sharing IRQ's at ALL. In fact, they didn't. This emulation mode is known to lock up computers fairly frequently.

Of course it may not help, but its an easy try.

[Ruahrc]

Disabling doesn't help, since none of my games use DOS Eumlation.

Just to make it clear though, it isn't really lockups that are happening, rather fatal errors that boot me out of the game.

Ruahrc

[Ruahrc]

If you go to device manager and double click the "Computer" icon at the very top it will give you that list. Or you can select it and click Properties.

I now have my sblive in pci3 and my modem in pci4. I had to force everything (USB, ATA100, and Modem) to 10 and the sblive to 5 in the bios. Otherwise something would end up on 6 and would lock my computer while booting. (Something with the Floppy taking up 6 I assume) Windows works once again but my games still don't. Here's what happens: I'm in the game, and suddenly my keyboard will drop out. I can still use the mouse but can't use the keyboard. After a few seconds of this it will kick me to the desktop.

Ruahrc

[ProStockFan]

Hi there....I am thinking that the problem you are having is the same one I am having also...wondering if you figured out what to do..and I have read all the replies and my gosh I am not computer literate enough to understand what everyone was saying...but I do know that I have a Vibra 128 sound card and I had to install the driver from the net..maybe you might be able to help me out here...thanking you in advance

[Ruahrc]

well I'm giving WinME a shot- hopefully it's good for something.

What problem are you having? Please be more specific. Are you having trouble installing your drivers, or getting lockups, or what?

Ruahrc

[Ruahrc]

WinME behaves exactly the same. Still can't defrag either... What is going on? This is SERIOUSLY screwed up...

Here's an excerpt from my dxdiag... I still think it is some file that isn't right..

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
DirectX Files Tab: The file vfwwdm32.dll is incorrectly installed in the Windows folder and should be deleted.
The file iac25_32.ax is a beta version, which is unsupported and could cause problems.
You should reinstall DirectX to get the latest version.
Display Tab 1: The file nvdisp.drv is uncertified, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs. You may be able to get a certified driver from the manufacturer of the hardware device.
DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful.
Direct3D test results: All tests were successful.
AGP texturing test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: The file EMU10K1.VXD is uncertified, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs. You may be able to get a certified driver from the manufacturer of the hardware device.
DirectSound test results: All tests were successful.
Music Tab: DirectMusic test results: All tests were successful.
Input Tab: No input devices detected.
No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

------------------
DirectX Components
------------------
ddraw.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 344064 bytes
ddraw16.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 28496 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 4.87.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 36864 bytes
ddraw.vxd: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 30469 bytes
ddhelp.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 41984 bytes
dxapi.sys: 4.87.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 2416 bytes
d3d8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1062400 bytes
d3dref8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 236544 bytes
d3dim.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 638976 bytes
d3dim700.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 872960 bytes
d3dref.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 140800 bytes
d3dramp.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 606208 bytes
d3drgbf.dll: 4.02.00.1054 English Final Retail 7/1/1997 13:06:42 58880 bytes
d3drg16f.dll: 4.02.00.1054 English Final Retail 7/1/1997 13:07:56 72192 bytes
d3drm.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 446464 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 118784 bytes
d3dpmesh.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 102400 bytes
dplayx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 245760 bytes
dpmodemx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 36864 bytes
dpwsockx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 77824 bytes
dplaysvr.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 45056 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 69632 bytes
dpnet.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 237568 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 98304 bytes
dpnwsock.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 118784 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 90112 bytes
dpnmodem.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 110592 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 282624 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 122880 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 184320 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 90112 bytes
dpvhelp.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 81920 bytes
dinput.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 176128 bytes
dinput8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 204800 bytes
dinput.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 10874 bytes
dimap.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 102400 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 307200 bytes
vjoyd.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 33361 bytes
joyhid.vxd: 4.88.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 13055 bytes
joy.cpl: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 155648 bytes
gcdef.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 249856 bytes
gchand.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 6144 bytes
pid.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 40960 bytes
gameenum.sys: 4.07.01.3000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 10608 bytes
hidgame.sys: 4.07.01.3000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 8912 bytes
dsound.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 455680 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1339392 bytes
dsound.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 48171 bytes
dswave.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 15360 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 176128 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 66560 bytes
dmusic.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 94208 bytes
dmusic16.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 11008 bytes
dmusic32.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 28672 bytes
dmband.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 25600 bytes
dmcompos.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 59392 bytes
dmime.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 168960 bytes
dmloader.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 30720 bytes
dmstyle.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 110080 bytes
dmsynth.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 130048 bytes
dmscript.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 78336 bytes
dx7vb.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 600576 bytes
dx8vb.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1069056 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 63488 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 52224 bytes
dxmasf.dll: 6.04.07.1112 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 507904 bytes
mciqtz.drv: 4.00.96.0729 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 11776 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 33792 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 141312 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 167936 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 229888 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 344064 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 956416 bytes
quartz.vxd: 4.00.00.0501 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 5672 bytes
strmdll.dll: 4.01.00.3857 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 252736 bytes
vidx16.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 10240 bytes
iac25_32.ax: 2.00.05.0051 English Beta Retail 2/13/1998 14:31:00 199680 bytes
ir41_32.ax: 4.51.16.0002 English Final Retail 6/22/1998 14:39:18 848384 bytes
ir41_qc.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 135168 bytes
ir41_qcx.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 352256 bytes
ir50_32.dll: 5.1794.15.0046 English Final Retail 7/1/1998 10:13:10 753664 bytes
ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.63.0038 English Final Retail 11/6/1997 12:47:14 198144 bytes
ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.64.0038 English Final Retail 11/6/1997 12:51:38 181760 bytes
ivfsrc.ax: 5.04.02.0040 English Final Retail 2/26/1998 16:23:00 142848 bytes
mswebdvd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 245248 bytes
msdvdopt.dll: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 74512 bytes
ks.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 117600 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 116224 bytes
ksuser.dll: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4096 bytes
stream.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 41920 bytes
mspclock.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4800 bytes
mspqm.sys: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 4848 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 6368 bytes
swenum.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 3456 bytes
mstee.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4896 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 141312 bytes
nabtsfec.sys: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 78448 bytes
ccdecode.sys: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 13520 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 30992 bytes
msyuv.dll: 4.90.00.3000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 32768 bytes
kstvtune.ax: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 54544 bytes
ksxbar.ax: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 40720 bytes
kswdmcap.ax: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 84752 bytes
vfwwdm32.dll: 4.90.00.3000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 69632 bytes
wstdecod.dll: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 56592 bytes
msdv.sys: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 45744 bytes

------------------------------------------------
Components Incorrectly Located in Windows Folder
------------------------------------------------
vfwwdm32.dll: 4.03.00.1214 English Final Retail 4/10/1997 12:14:00 49152 bytes

Can someone reference these to their DX8 files?

Ruahrc

[FrozenLiquidity]

Do the motherboards you have been using have VIA chipsets?

[Ruahrc]

Yes, the A7V uses the VIA KT133(a?) Chipset

[Undertow]

I have an A7V with an SBLive! in PCI slot 5. I also have a GeForce2 MX, and a WDC 20.5GB HDD. Therefore our systems are nearly identical besides the processor (Duron 650) and ram (256MB PC133). I am also running ME.

Did you install the Via 4in1 drivers? There is no doubt that it is your sound card. Do not forget that the card could also be physically damaged, but the damage may not be visible to the naked eye (static shock). If you have a friend with an SBLive, see if you can't try his in there. I bought an SBLive off a guy once that "looked" perfect, but it was defective. There are also other drivers for the SBLive other than Live!Ware 3.0. I downloaded drivers from Creative called SBLW9XUP.exe.

Definitely try moving the card to PCI slot 5, regardless if you have to take something out. If that doesn't work, get your hands on another one. Hope this works for ya!

[Sixpac]

I think Undertow has a good idea. Or you could just remove your SB from the computer and remove all its drivers and try out the games. If they work after that get your SB rma'd.

[Ruahrc]

I tried with the card in 5 a while ago, and switched away because everyboday said it was IRQ Conflicts. Putting the SBLive in 5 makes it share with the USB's and my modem (which I had in 4). I can move the modem but it will still share with the USB's. As of now my SBLive is alone on 3.

I tried switching sound cards a while ago, reaplacing a working SBLive with mine in my friend's computer. His ran fine with mine, mine locked up with his. I could try it again sometime though...

Lately my system has slowly been getting worse and worse. At first it was just the games, but now after a few reinstalls everything seems to be starting to "break". Defrag freezes my comp unless it's in safe mode, i get stray pixels after minimizing/closing windows, even windows itself locks and freezes much more than normal. I get noticeably more errors in various DLL and VXD files when running apps (like winamp, IExplore) as well. My CD Burner used to burn at it's rated 4x when I first installed the software after formatting my HD (4x4x32) but now suddenly my software only has an option for 1x or 2x.... What in the world is happenening? Hardware or software? I am planning to zero-fill my drive and restart, being EXTREMELY CAREFUL as to what I install, with EXTENSIVE GAME TESTING after each TINY CHANGE. I need to wait a little before doing this, though, because right now I have a lot of things going on, and can't spend too much time working with this thing.

When I restart- what drivers should I use? I think i'm going to go with the via 4in1 4.24 drivers, LW30, and Nv6.31 drivers. Those are all the drivers that my friend has in his system and it works perfectly (KT7, TBird 900, 128MB PC133, GF2MX, SBLive, WD2.05GB HDD)

Ruahrc