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wyvrn
06-26-2000, 11:27 AM
I recently bought Star Trek Armada and Sim City 3000 Unlimited. I wanted to try Armada because I love a good strategy game and the Star Trek theme intrigued me. I loved the original Sim City, as well as Sim 2000 too. But I am dissapointed. First I played Armada, and while the graphics and sound are good, the gameplay is severely lacking. The game has 4 races, Federation, Borg, Klingons, and Romulans. But there is no clear difference between any of them. Each one has several ships that have a main weapon, and a few other special weapons that can be researched. About the only other upgrade is adding officers to your starbase. Other than that, it is just a question of who builds faster and can rush the most. With all of the ships being very similar capability-wise, I find very little strategy here. And the games are over too quickly for my tastes. This game so does not even compate to the best RTS I have ever played, Starcraft.

SimCity 3000 is just frustratingly hard. No matter how hard I try, my city always has low land values and grows too slowly. I played its two predecessors and finally achieved a grand level, but with this one it feels like the makers substituted ridiculously high standards for smart strategy and wise decision making. There does not exist one clear solution to building a great city, much less a choice of options.

What I am getting to is this: game designers today are focusing on fancy graphics and sound, and not on the quality of the product. I am still playing Starcraft and SimCity 2000 with much more enjoyment than their successors. It is because games of a few years ago did not rely on the surface layer to attract buyers, but on the rich experience of actually playing the game and becoming part of it. I used to be able to just pick out a game at the store and come home and enjoy it in some way, but now it looks like I will have to purchase 5 different ones to find the one I like. Maybe its a good thing I do not enjoy playing games as much anymore, and I can spend that time on more important things. But I am going to miss the great gaming experiences I used to have with the gaming classics.

rtyp3
06-26-2000, 07:36 PM
I hear ya bro. I have noticed this is becoming increasingly more popular especially in pc games, just to add to the death of pc gaming http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif
BTW-I have Simcity 3000, I don't find it hard at all. I actually felt that it was easier than its predecessors. Right now, I have 1 city with over a population of about 10,000,000 and millions of Simoleans (money) to go with that.

chipbgt
06-26-2000, 10:44 PM
For a long time for me the graphics in a game were inversely related to the actual gameplay found in a title. Some of my fave games are still the old ones because they actualy spent time on the story and such....games are getting better again (shenmu for example) but I agree.....once you have played starcraft though all other RTS's will pale in comparison...at least until warcraft 3 that is http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif

wyvrn
07-04-2000, 08:50 PM
Warcraft III with graphics and kick-**** strategy. The RTS to end all RTS's http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

gradius
07-05-2000, 09:57 AM
wyvrn - I couldn't agree with you more about Warcraft III. While the world drools over Diablo II, I've been silently waiting for the WcIII release. Oh, BTW, I'm a big Starcraft fan myself. I've heard (and it's a rumor) that Blizzard will be releasing Starcraft II sometime soon, but probably after WCIII. Starcraft would have to be my favorite game of all times (yes, even above Quake III *gasp*)

ScaryBinary
07-06-2000, 10:37 AM
I just had a huge disappointment with Ultima IX. Man, I was looking forward to that one forever. I even had to build a new PC just to play it. The Black Gate was the best game I've ever played, and I had huge expectations for Ascension.

The scenery was nice, and it truly was beautiful, but (and if you've played the game, you know exactly what I'm talking about!) the gameplay was shallow and too short. The end game was pidly, and I finished the game feeling utterly empty and upset that such a wonderful series could have such a rotten conclusion. It still makes me mad!

Too often games are rushed out the door, or they attempt to make money simply on their name alone. IT HAS TO END!

ScaryBinary

wyvrn
07-09-2000, 08:04 AM
Two of my friends have Diablo II, and while I will agree the graphics and gameply are superb, Diablo was never my favorite type of game. For some reason, I just get tired of it after a few levels. I do agree Diablo is he best of its genre though. Starcraft II, hmm anyone got any screenshots of that yet?

alpha
07-09-2000, 09:42 AM
Why don't developers make games like Rogue (ansi graphics) and just add killer 3d and stuff, you'd have gameplay and kick-*** fancyness.

Dputiger
07-09-2000, 10:02 AM
I'm going to pick up Ultima IX just because I loved that series so much (right now my comp couldn't handle it).

Wyvern, if your looking for good gamplay and good graphics I've thrown together a little list here of games I think were a good balance of both--hopefully, you'll find something you like:

First Person Shooters:
Half-Life
Dark Forces: Jedi Knight
Thief

Space Combat:
Wing Commander 3, 4, & Prophecy.
Descent Freespace 1 and 2 (2 is better IMO).
Freelancer (looks like it might be pretty good).

Role-Playing:
Baldur's Gate
Planescape: Torment
Icewind Dale

Turn-Based Strategy:
Alpha Centauri
Civilization 2 (The Original!)

Real-Time Strategy:
Myth and Myth 2.
Shogun
Brood Wars (if you don't have it).

You may have already played all these, but they are all good games. Hopefully something on there will interest you.

wyvrn
07-17-2000, 07:02 AM
Thief and Broodwars both rocked http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

I had Baldurs but didnt every play it http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif I need to pick it up on the cheap somewhere.

Thanks for the list, I will give some of those a try.