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jad1097
05-25-2000, 04:06 AM
AS an American citizen this is very disappointing.
There is no good to come from this for an American! What more lost jobs? How can an American corporation compete with $.20 an hour or what ever it is? Please do your best to help stop this trade agreement! If you are interested in stopping this agreement please let me know and I will try to provide information on how to stop it. I belive it still has to go to the senate before it is fully approved. SO please take 5 minutes and e-mail your senator of write them a letter asking them not to approve this.
Why should our country support communism? Hell then lift the embargo on Cuba if you are going to allow this! This really has the possibility to affect many US jobs!
http://congress.nw.dc.us/cgi-bin/alertpr.pl?dir=ibew&alert=5 http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000525/02/news-us-china-trade http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000525/02/news-us-china-trade http://news.excite.com/news/r/000524/18/wto-china-president2
jad1097
05-25-2000, 04:10 AM
Here are six reason why this should not happen.
1. Congress Should not give China permanent trade access until it demonstrates that it is playing by the rules – by living up to its current agreements, eliminating unfair trade practices and respecting internationally recognized human rights and worker rights.
2. China has violated every trade agreement it has signed with the United States in the past ten years.
3. China has repeatedly and flagrantly violated international norms on basic human rights, like freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of association. The State Department says the violations were worse last year than the year before.
4. A massive increase in trade with China will be bad for America’s working families. The already growing trade deficit with China has already cost hundreds of thousands of U.S. jobs and lowered the wages of American workers.
5. The China deal is not a clear win for U.S. business and workers. NAFTA supporters made the same claims, and since NAFTA passed, we’ve seen a steady stream of corporations – and good American jobs – moving south of the border.
6. If we give China a blank check, we give up - forever - our ability to use economic leverage to insist that the Chinese government cease its egregious abuses of workers’ and human rights
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Hello,
What ever you say it will be blown in the wind.
USA might preach about human rights and so on ..... - Money makes the world go around and it is a huge market and "who cares" about human rights.
Medo
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jad1097
05-25-2000, 04:50 AM
Certainly not someone from a communist background!
Hello
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Certainly not someone from a communist background!
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Medo
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yaroa
05-25-2000, 05:06 AM
Well, I am not from a comunist background and I agree, totally with Medo. If you think that Big Bussiness is going to let a little thing like human rights get in the way of the posibility of selling to billions of people, you're in dreamland
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OuTpaTienT
05-25-2000, 05:28 AM
Sad to say, but it's the truth. If you think big business cares about human rights over money, then you need to wake up. And if you think President Clinton or any of the Clintonites give a rat's *** about human rights, then you are just a fool. (If fact, IMO, anyone that still supports that scum-sucking s.o.b. needs to have their head examined.)
Don't misunderstand. I completely support your plight jad, and you can rest assured that I will be one of thousands that will email my representives (and often do on other stupid pending legislation). All I'm saying don't expect all the self-serving bastards that run things now to suddenly have a change of heart.
I predict that if the rest of the world (especially us) continues to keep our guard down and allows China to do as they please (which apparently involves denying freedom to those who seek it) then in 50-75 years the USA will not exist, nor will alot of the other countries...and this will be the Planet China.
tonym
05-25-2000, 06:31 AM
The year is 2025 and greetings from the North American Annex Zone!
Yep, that's where we're heading. The Chicoms are already making a massive effort to bulk-up their military in what their military analysts predict is an inevitable conflict with the hegemonist USA.
They are buying aircraft, missiles, submarines and even aircraft carriers at an accelerated rate from Russia (whom we should have cradled closer to us after the breakup!), who frankly is doing it for the money.
The result is a world that will be dominated by Bejing in the not-too-distant future, and they will be in a position to dictate their desires to the rest of the world. And all with the complicity of Comrades Clinton and Gore, and the rest of the greedy sonofa***** industrialists that want a short-sighted, "open door" trade policy with China.
America, the land of the free, home of the brave (and the governance of the stupid by the greedily inept).
God help us...
Tony
ghostface
05-25-2000, 07:57 AM
currently i don't really see us using our "economic leverage" to do anything. i think the flip side of this issue (which i personally feel is being blown out of proportion due to the election year esp considering the very quiet u.s. response in '89) is the fact that many european corporations are staking a claim in china. so for all our good intentions of holding the american economy as the carrot, the chinese may just go nibble at the europeans treats. sort of like their decision to buy airbus planes rather than boeings. now i'm not stating that everything is hunky dory in communist china, hell they sent some of relatives to "re-education" camps, but i feel that the human rights issue is just a ploy by politicians to bring this issue up for votes and free press.
oblivion
05-25-2000, 09:23 AM
Oh yea,you almost forgot # 7
7.China pays off every politician of any importance here in america,and generally has us in thier political pockets.
narayan
05-25-2000, 09:30 AM
And gets our nuclear weapon secrets in return.
narayan
05-25-2000, 04:29 PM
Who here knows if there is any real difference in this trade agreement that we don't have with them already, besides this one being permanant. Now we re-approve trade with China every year.
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