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Win_98
05-22-2000, 05:59 PM
<---------------- 333mhz & very satisfy
My mother at 166mhz she dont notice any difference between the 2
all she does is surf the internet nothing else.
This is like a family thing
who need overpowered machine anyway
they dont do nothing but give out more heat and eat more electricity.
Faster machine, you go nowhere you still in one place
you just sitting on your computer
doing the same stuff.
I dont play any of those 3D game
remember they all suck!!!
2D game are much better and require little
resources and even run OK on a P100 machine.
Let me ask you this I dont do anything other
then look at jpg, listen to MP3, print a few picture and docs why do I need something that exceed that requirement eh?
Heck even AOE2 play are a pretty decent speed
on P233mhz with 64 meg of ram...
For all those bragging about having 800mhz
900mhz etc
what is the point?
Just to say I am slow and you are faster?
http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif Is not do me much good, I would feel
I have wasted so much money down the drain.
My computer does everything I want and it is infact perform beyond my expectation.
Remember that AGP 2x greatly enhanced
speed regardless how crappy it is.

chipbgt
05-22-2000, 06:04 PM
I am very happy that you can get along with your computer the way it is.

But for those of us who do video/audio editing, or think that 3d games might be (gasp) BETTER than 2d, or like to multitask, the extra power does come in handy.

I will be sure to wave to you from my porsche as you putt along in your pinto. Heck, if your happy I am happy http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Apostle 83
05-22-2000, 06:26 PM
First of all, if all you're doing is surfin, then you are right. I know that West Front, a good 2d game, runs better on my friends 900 athlon than it does on my 558 piii, and the requirements are like a p133! Faster load times is the basic benefit, but, come on, we all know we want more...

Warthog
05-22-2000, 06:34 PM
I think you're cheap http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif.

I play 3d games and they require a good machine. Why have something slow when you can easily have the fastest (best)?

Why have large speakers and not small? Sound comes out of both, right? The answer is all in what you want out of em - speakers or computers http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif.

Warthog

wtp
05-22-2000, 06:40 PM
i need a fast computer http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif well, u just need something better, if you have a 500, and get a 600, u won't feel any difference. if u have a 133, and get a 900 or 850, then we're talking power. but.. surfing, if that's all u do, u won't find a big difference, just get a better modem, or get DSL or something. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

wtp http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

thekingofpain
05-22-2000, 06:46 PM
To each her own...said the lady as she kissed her cow...

skywalker[TSG]
05-22-2000, 07:01 PM
i agree with chipbgt
i use my comp for audio and video editing
so i need a fast and reliable machine

specs

dual celeron 466@604
512mb PC-100 ECC ram
3x 20.5gb IBM deskstar HDDs
12x plextor burner
21 inch nokia
32mb G400max
SB/platinum

bhess
05-22-2000, 07:07 PM
I'm sure that a lot of people here have computers as a hobby too. Several have more than one computer. Why? to play around with. As a hobby.
Everyone has some type of hobby that they spend money on. ( cars, motorcycles, snowboarding, scuba.)

jad1097
05-22-2000, 07:10 PM
If all you do is surf then why even have a computer? Get webtv or something like that.

Missing the point
05-22-2000, 07:14 PM
Also, He says the faster ones use more electricity, thats wrong, sure, if your overclocking it and have 12 120 MM fans running, but for a P III 600E, its runnin at 1.65 V, not the 3.3 V that the P 166 is runnin......

Win_98
05-22-2000, 07:15 PM
Im not cheap at all I do give away computer part that are too slow or of no use to me.
I do spend quite a bit in the past
remember when they were real expensive
you basically couldnt get anything
decent without going broke.
you didnt know I have 2 computer did you?
both have 128meg of ram
one have 17gig, 8gig and 2 gig
the other have
2gig and 1.6 gig
both have sb AWE64
so you see Im trying to spend at less as possible for both and try to balance betweent the 2.
I have spend all my money on these fancy equipment.
a month ago I got this 17 inch monitor
for 188 and it was much better then my 15inch i could see better it like TV
I also have 4 Hifi VCR
Now you know I'm a pretty big spender.
also 120 tapes worth of stuff when added up it about 250$

burnup
05-22-2000, 07:22 PM
well i think you guys spend too much on machines that u only use for games nothing really for business or to gain any profit from. think about it, its waste of money when u could spend or earn to buy urself a new car. well i'm probably only saying this cause i got a 266 comp haha! oh well...

hd581
05-22-2000, 07:30 PM
My dear friend, you've missed the point! Overclocking isn't about getting a faster machine. If it was, we'd all just buy faster chips. Nay, I tell you, it is the lure of squeezing blood from a stone, eeking every bit of performance out of a CPU, pushing it past the very limits the Evil Manufacturer said it would never scale.

And then the moment of triumph, that you will tell your children about for generations, when you stand in front of your Celeron and it boldly reports its speed: 850 MHz!

"But Grandpa," they will say, "there was no 850 Mhz Celeron in 2000!"

And with a twinkle in your eye you'll say, "I know."

RCN_Moose
05-22-2000, 07:39 PM
here, here hd581 http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Moose http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

AuraEdge
05-22-2000, 07:46 PM
LOL
gotta tell ya..it was real cool to have a Celly 366@550 when the PIII 500 just came out.
I had a 550...
And on this new board I got It wont hit 550 anymore...
and I hate odd bus speeds, so i backed it down to 366....
and I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE...
Dont know how, but I can feel every difference.

alondra
05-22-2000, 07:47 PM
I believe it depends on what you do with it, I've seen some of these games and am amazed at the detail, graphics and speed . if this is your thing then you want the fastest you can get.
I went from a 133 to a 200 (my backup now) to a 450. I think that unless I go to gaming, this will be as fast as Ill need for the net. Oh and I could afford what ever I want. still built my own. with lots of help from you folks on thr forums.

Brydon
05-22-2000, 07:54 PM
hd581...I know exactly what you mean and I could't have put it better myself http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif. Win without sounding rude the only reason you don't play 3d games is because you can't. I am sure if you had a better system (which you obviously would like as you use the forum) you would do more than surf the net. The guy with the old car only does 50mph cos it is the best it can do but give the guy a Porche and he will open it up instead of still doing 50mph. You say you are happy with your Cyrix overclocked at 350 but if you were happy why were you overclocking it http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif. If you are happy then I am happy http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif.

jam57
05-22-2000, 07:58 PM
Some are happy with slugs... I myself can not have enough speed!! i am never satisfied with most things for to long...change is good. Most of all I love tweakin.

Jim

FrozenLiquidity
05-22-2000, 09:38 PM
as Win_98 would put it...

Me need fast computer.
Me play 3D games at keyboard and mouse.
Me need extra power.

http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/biggrin.gif

For people like "me", gamers, tweakers, overclockers and such, we need the good stuff in our system.

Only the top of the line for us baby!

Frozen http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif Liquidity

wtp
05-22-2000, 09:44 PM
freon cooling = more power, everything else specially with a celery, u won't waste power, http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

wtp RESEARCH IS KEY http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Missing the point
05-22-2000, 09:49 PM
yeah, LIQUID NITROGEN IS THE KEY!!!

hehe http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

-=Missing the point=-

FrozenLiquidity
05-22-2000, 10:33 PM
no no no no no! You are going about it all wrong!!!

Absolute Zero is where it's at, you could get the ENIAC to run UT flawlessly http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif j/k

Seriously, mabye overclock a 486 to 500+ MHz

hey! it's possible

Missing the point
05-22-2000, 10:41 PM
someone has gotta have the link, the fake ( I think) 486 @ 250 something MHz........

USING BEER!!!!!!!

jad1097
05-22-2000, 11:40 PM
I know I have it somewhere! BRB!

Well I can't find it http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/frown.gif tooo many favs!

[This message has been edited by jad1097 (edited 05-22-2000).]

ablang
05-23-2000, 06:55 AM
I agree.

I have a P133 w/ 64MB RAM, and all I use it for is surfing the web, email, mp3s, mpegs, and old games like Diablo and COmmand & Conquer, Red Alert, etc.

Perfectly happy.

deep_sky
05-23-2000, 03:04 PM
oh yeah i remember that site!!! they got a 486 up to 247mhz, using hard alcohol in a freezer. it still burned out though. that was funny as h**l!!!

brandon184
05-23-2000, 03:13 PM
What would the power consumption difference be between, say a P166 and a PIII 800?

Like what? 0.05 cents a month? hehe. :P


P.S. - Yeah, Win_98 - Ya gotta get yourself a copy of some type of typing tutor. I find your grammer/overall mechanics appauling.

No offense.. Just trying to help!



[This message has been edited by brandon184 (edited 05-23-2000).]

Warthog
05-23-2000, 03:26 PM
A hobbie with computers can easily be compared to a hobbie with cars (as some of you have done). Why have the fast car that can go 180mph when you'll never even go that fast?

I can, therefore I will. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Warthog

Brydon
05-23-2000, 06:07 PM
Because they can if the need arises http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif.

Ed_S
05-23-2000, 07:04 PM
Gotta say I can see both sides here. I could use my old 486/120 happily for most of what I do. But the "need for speed" (or plain old one-up-manship) has pushed me higher & higher. I seldom game & have never even seen most of the games I see mentioned here. But I just like having good gear & prefer to keep current technology in sight, at least.

If you're happy with what you've got, GREAT! But some will never be satisfied, and that's great too.
Why put each other down for this?

And what difference does it make how much someone else spends, anyway?
It's their money, and "expensive" is a relative term. If you mow lawns after shool, $50 could be expensive. But if you're well off, it's just pocket change.
So your machine's faster than mine, so what.

==========
And those of you criticizing spelling and / or grammer - Don't forget this is a world-wide forum, and for some folks English is NOT the primary language. I made that mistake some time ago and was ashamed of myself when I found out!!

Ed

Warthog
05-23-2000, 07:12 PM
Win_98 started it http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif. Yet another weird topic.

Warthog

awwall
05-23-2000, 07:19 PM
Well put ED...

Missing the point
05-23-2000, 07:44 PM
Nice there ED, I would have said something similar, but I dont feel that I need to put that much effort into a childish behaviour http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/wink.gif

narayan
05-23-2000, 09:39 PM
(I didn't read the thread)

Whatever

akaBruno
05-24-2000, 02:15 PM
FOR SALE !!!

PENTIUM 166. Good little chip.

alpha
05-25-2000, 12:21 AM
Ok, the 247mhz 486 was a fake by the way.

Why do I overclock etc.? I need the power. I can't afford and never could afford a 600mhz PIII or whatnot, so out and get a Celeron and let 'er rip!! You obviously don't know the thrill of letting a cpu rip way above what it ran at, .4v over spec ,passing out some geezer who spend 2grand on his damned retail machine. And people say you only play 3d games? Only? These things push your system to the limit! I don't know about you , but I want 100fps in games!