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mds
07-08-2001, 08:47 PM
Just checking to see what bps rate everyone else gets using a dail-up connection. I usualy run anywhere from 40-47,000 bps and I don't know if there's anyway to speed it up any or not.

Dove19983
07-08-2001, 11:10 PM
37333 everytime.
Downloads between 3.5KB to 4.5KB.

Xeroid
07-08-2001, 11:15 PM
52000 bps right now. Usually 49k to 50k. I ran my own shielded line to the outside box and made sure it was routed away from any A.C. wires.

Mike

Dudster
07-08-2001, 11:38 PM
The highest I can get is 48000. The lowest I ever connect at is 42something. Other rates I get are 44000, 45333 and 46667.

I'm using a Connexant PCI winmodem.

radbasa
07-09-2001, 04:15 AM
Outside of anything you can do the clean up your phone lines, essentially anything from the phone cos. breakout box to your modem, there isn't really much you can do anymore. Your connection to your ISP might be passing through a lot of ADCs, DACs, switches, all sorts of telco equipment.

tazman
07-09-2001, 04:33 AM
I'm on cable now. Before, the best I could connect at is 26,400 (on a 56k modem)being way up in the Adirondacks. **** phone company dosn't even have caller ID. If you can, go to cable!

ME

mds
07-09-2001, 05:50 PM
How much difference does a sheilded phone line dirrectly from the box help?

ragtop
07-09-2001, 06:38 PM
If you're getting 40-47K, you are doing pretty good. Using my old Cardinal external modem I could get 53.3 on my "good" phone line, and 28.8 on my "bad" (they run through different exchanges - one is much further away)

On the various internal and PC card modems I have used, I get 38-47 on the good line, and around 26 on the bad one.

Now I get 500 - 1000K on my cable connection, but thats a different story http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

The main factors are modem quality, phone line quality, distance to the telephone switching station, and compatibility with the modems your ISP uses. Unless you have a specific interference source, I doubt that using shielded cable inside your house will help much.

Xeroid
07-09-2001, 06:47 PM
We use shielded phone cables at work to connect our equipment to the wall jack. It helps if you have electronic equipment near by that might interfere with the phone signal. The main source of interference is from the 120v a.c. lines in the area.

I went one step further and ran shielded line from the outside box to the wall jack. I also grounded the outside shield. (This is signal wire with 2 conductors and a braided outside shield). It looks like very thin coax cable.

If you look under most houses you will notice that the phone lines are run using the shortest distance possible, disregarding how the house was wired for 120v a.c. I found my existing phone wire run accross or near power wire in many places.

To tell the truth, I found that the shielded cable that I chose was about the same price as regular 4 wire phone cable (only 2 wires used per line). I dont think the shielded cable made that much difference. It was the way I routed the cable that helps the most. I was able to increase my connection speed from the high 30s or low 40's. I now rarely connect slower than 50666.

Mike

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Xeroid
07-09-2001, 08:06 PM
Check out this link. I found several like it. I don't know who they are quoting because they all use the exact same words.

Pay particular attention to the PREMISIS WIRING section.

CLICK ME! (http://www.dbtech.net/modems/problems.html)

Mike



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dos7
07-10-2001, 05:29 AM
i have an internal ISA LTwinmodem that always connects at either 52,000bps or 53,333bps. According to what the phone guy said to me when he was installing a second line, my house has it's own "branch" on the big box near the street that serves my neighbourhood. Since all the houses around are new and mine is several decades old, he said the phone company had to do this to allow my home to have phone service, while all the others have to share "branchs".

I think what he meant was that our phone line isn't "pair gained". The phone company splits up a single line into multiple channels so that they can cram more phone numbers onto one line or something to that effect,,great for the phone company's costs, but not good for dial up. anyway,,this is why im able to utilize 56k to it's maximum, im also quite close to the nearest switching station (several hundred meters) and my ISP probably uses the same modem type as i do as well, this all contributes to get true 56k connections.

i've seen prolonged steady throughputs of 5 to 5.5k and sometimes slightly above.

but of course,,broadband is the way to go if it is available to you.

sorry for bragging about my dial up connection speed,,but i just had to.


dos7

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axedawg
07-10-2001, 05:52 AM
I'm wondering if I could get the phone company to reroute my phone ables and possibly install shielded cable to boot. Right now, my phone lines follow the electrical lines to the same phone/electric pole. Having some makor lag problems and disconnects occassionally and I wonder if this would help things along. I would have to incur the expenses of course.

Any inputs on this?

Axe

dos7
07-10-2001, 06:12 AM
sorry axedawg,,,this is waaaaaaay off subject,,but im from arkansas as well,,i grew up in yellville arkansas up north, near harrison and mtn home, but now i live in australia,,,i miss home ,,,sob sob,,whine whine....so is it a hot summer up there?

also,,back to subject,,good luck trying to get your phone company to do anything "custom" with your phone line unless you are a business customer or there are big bucks involved.

but give it a shot,, to paraphrase a great african american (frederick douglas)
"antagonize, antagonize,antagonize" to get what you want.

a yank down unda

dos7