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x35Agent
04-26-2000, 09:40 PM
Who here can tell me. How many posts it takes to change your member status?

RCN_Moose
04-26-2000, 09:46 PM
Hi-

Believe it's:
30 for Memebr
300 for Senior
and 1000 for Ultimate

Moose http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

Dominus
04-26-2000, 09:47 PM
0 - 30 = Junior Member
30 - 499 = Member
500 -999 = Senior Member
> 1000 = Ultimate Member

Check your current post count by clicking on the http://www.sysopt.com/forum/profile.gif .

Remember: Post quality is what matters, not quantity. Don't got posting useless stuff just to get a higher status.

RCN_Moose
04-26-2000, 10:00 PM
I was close!

x35Agent
04-26-2000, 10:11 PM
Can anyone tell me how Dominus got some of his text in bold and also how he got the icon in the message. What other tricks do some of you have to share with a newbie to this forum?

Dominus
04-26-2000, 10:18 PM
UBB Code Explanation (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/ubbcode.html)

ytay
04-27-2000, 06:06 AM
My thoughts on this senior and ultimate member thing is it is total nonsense, and adds absolutely nothing to the forum whatsoever. It creates an eliteist mindset and seggregates people based on the number of posts they have made (i mean how silly is that). I always laugh at all the back slapping and kudos tossed around when someone posts that they are now a senior member......whoop tee doo. Another board I frequent quite often tried a similar thing and the members went nuts, so it was squelched within a week. If your here often enough and contribute people will know who you are regardless of your status. I am not trying to criticize SysOpt, these are just my comments on having status levels. I personally think they should be blown up for good.

hd581
04-27-2000, 06:52 AM
I agree w/ ytay to some extent. I like the idea of having the "Member since.." listed under a persons name and even "Total posts" listed there, too. These things indicate how active the person is at this board and can even roughly indicate how their advice should be taken.

But I don't see much merit in "Junior, Senior, Ultimate". If anything, that motivates people to post for the wrong reason (upping their stats) and helps crowd this board with useless posts.

Also, note the high number of "How many posts do I need to change my member status?" posts (like this one). Member status is not quickly understood, but a simple # would be.

As far as elitist, I haven't seen anything like that at all here. All the Ultimate/Senior members act maturely and friendly and have never looked down on anyone, nor have I seen them "stick together" or get a big head. I commend them for this. They in no way need a title to tell us of their experience: their professionalism tells us that.

ytay
04-27-2000, 07:26 AM
sorry that was poorly worded, i should have said it can create an eliteist attitude, as i agree that is not predominant here at sysopt, but as you said people will post useless things to up their stats because being an ultimate member puts them in what is thought to be elite

Barney
04-28-2000, 02:56 PM
hd581,go to PCmechanics,they have this nmr post/date reg under your name.

About member status:I think it is to encourage people to keep posting on this site,so you will achieve a higher member status.Isn't that a good thing?

Another thing:If you were an Ultimate member,would you still think that it sucks to have a memberstatus?Just a thought.

Ronald

hd581
04-28-2000, 03:45 PM
About PC mech: Yes I see that, but they also have a ranking system, too (undergrad, grad student, prof).

About member status: The more you encourage people to post to achieve a status, the more useless posts you're going to get. The only motivation for posting should be to help others out or provide good information.

If you were an Ultimate member,would you still think that it sucks to have a memberstatus?Your question implies Ultimate members get something that other members don't. What might that be? I'm really asking, b/c I'm not sure what you have in mind. I'll reach 500 posts soon enough. I'm not expecting anything to change.

Barney
04-28-2000, 04:05 PM
hd581,maybe you would earn a little more respect (depends on how you got the 500/1000 posts).i.o.w.:If you don't post **** and just help people with their probs,your status means a great deal.You would really be ultimate!

BTW I don't think you can achieve Senior/Ultimate member status with only posting **** and a couple of questions (nothing wrong about asking questions).What means you know quite a lot about puters if you have Sen. or Ult. status.

Ronald

[This message has been edited by Barney (edited 04-28-2000).]

Dominus
04-28-2000, 04:07 PM
I like the membership status, and in fact, I was one of the ones pushing for it to be implemented.

http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/002396.html
http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/002753.html


I dunno, I've been here so long that I figured I deserved a "Gold Watch" so to speak. Or maybe it's my ego.

I never post unless I can add something good, which is why it's taken so long for me to accumulate posts.

I can't really see anything negative about the status levels.

Biff
04-28-2000, 05:18 PM
Gold watch just doesn't seem to do it for me Dominus, I think a gold modem would be the way to go (56K of course) I could blow some bubbles in scotts ear for ya

Wiz
04-28-2000, 07:44 PM
i think it should be that a vote is taken everytime someone passes 500 or 1000 posts. The vote would be among trusted members on wether or not that person deserves the status. This would (probably) stop the nonsense posting by some to get a few more notches above the next.

Eli
04-28-2000, 08:55 PM
Wiz has a pretty good idea... Although all that's really required would be an evaluation by the moderators before a member status upgrade.

Mntsnow
04-28-2000, 09:00 PM
I personally would not have a "problem" with what Wiz suggested (as long as I dont "lose" my "status") http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif ROFLMAO Unless of course Socalgal and Scott and Joel deem that I should be "downgraded" http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

Mntsnow

Warthog
04-28-2000, 09:09 PM
So far I haven't noticed anyone who doesn't deserve their "Senior/Ultimate" status. All of those are very helpful people. Not to say that those who haven't been here as long aren't. That sure would be a lot of "stupid" posts to be a "Senior/Ultimate" member. I really don't care what I am. As long as I am able to help people and receive help when needed, it doesn't matter to me.

It sort of does give you something to "work" for. Although I don't see myself posting just to raise my member status.

Warthog

SysOpt
04-28-2000, 09:13 PM
The vote is a creative idea but I think most people here with 500 or 1000 posts are certainly worthy of distinction.

Just as a heads-up, we may be getting new forum software in the not so distant future. All of the features we all like should be included, but I don't know what the situation will be with member titles / post counts, etc.



[This message has been edited by SysOpt (edited 04-28-2000).]

x35Agent
04-28-2000, 11:09 PM
I think I did an excelent job in
asking this question. It seems a
lot of people have an opinion on
the topic. I have tried my hardest
to post worthy topics here on
SYSOPT. I even got SYSOPT to
answer that makes me proud enough.
The only other thing I have to say
is the only dumb question is the
one never asked. Oh and excuse me
for asking but please read BIG
TROUBLE posted by me. I need help
the only access I have to the
WORLD WIDE SYSTEM OF
OPTIMIZATION is at work or at
my mothers on her webtv http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif

[This message has been edited by x35Agent (edited 04-28-2000).]

alpha
04-29-2000, 03:03 AM
I don't think that Ultimates and Seniors are treated any differently. Ultimates and Seniors do not sniff at Members and Juniors, no distinction is made.

konan3
04-29-2000, 06:07 AM
Status as such doesn't interest me all that much and that probably applies the same for the rest of you guy's/gal's out there. What does seem strange(being a new member here)is that at nearly 40 I'm being called junior again. I don't know whether to love it or hate it. LOL!

ytay
04-29-2000, 06:26 AM
sorry to rain on your comment wiz.....but a vote to see if you get senior or ultimate status?????.....that is almost laughable and further would makes this whole ranking thing eliteist. who is gonna sift through 500 posts and determine whether the person was contributing worthy posts,and does a board of ten people convene to hear arguments for both sides......i mean come on.... and then who gets the task of saying "hey sorry we don't think your up to snuff"....yuk

Konan555
04-29-2000, 06:37 AM
AHHHHHH thsi board isn't big enough for the both of us konan3

I'll be going
http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

**** it do none of the UBB smiles worK?

[This message has been edited by Konan555 (edited 04-29-2000).]

Nathan
04-29-2000, 08:00 AM
Personally I think Sysopt should determine who gets ultimate or another higher status. They might decide once a month or so who deserves it. I would suggest it be on the basis of the following;

A. How long they have been posting here

B. Are most of their postings accurate

C. Do they act professional here

D. Do they come on a regular basis

E. Are they respected by those of us here who have been here a while.


We started doing that type of thing before I left eHelpfree. It was more of a thank you to those who showed great talent in helping others that we had known for a long time. It's something to think about. And yes, the folks here that run Sysopt are more than qualified to make that decision. They know who is who. And they don't need to look at every post that is made to make that decision.

ytay

While I understand why you said what you did, this site is more like a family. Titles really don't mean here what they might mean at another site. You'll be hard pressed to find another here that has the attitude of an "eliteist".

alpha
04-29-2000, 08:15 AM
I think the idea of people selecting who gets senior, ultimate, etc., with a vote is stupid. It will break up Sysopt and grudges will develop against those who refused senior/ultimate status to people. Voting takes time, and I'm not sure if Scott would feel like judging the status of loads of people regulary.

There is nothing wrong with the current system - everyone is treated equaly - if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it.

hd581
04-29-2000, 08:42 AM
Barney: We earn respect w/ the status changes? The respect we get should be from the quality of our posts (i.e., how well we answer the question/solve the problem). The number of posts should be sort of a mileage count so people know you've done this before. I'd rather see something like:

Mntsnow
Total posts: 2900 (wow)

That tells me a lot more than "Ultimate". In fact, it worries me that people might think Senior status is respectful b/c of its title. That might drive people to post just to receive that false respect.

Scott: I agree, but I think people w/ 700 or 1400 (or 2900!) posts are worthy of distinction, too.

Wiz: Voting would turn it into a popularity contest. I can't imagine the level of buttkissing that might encourage.

alpha,warthog: I wholeheartedly agree. I see no problem among the Sr/Ult members. It's the Jr/Reg members I worry about.

x35Agent:
I even got SYSOPT to
answer that makes me proud enough. Didn't think you'd open up a can of worms, did you x35? LOL.
alpha wrote:if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it.Uh huh...say, don't you overclock your CPU? LOL!

[This message has been edited by hd581 (edited 04-29-2000).]

alpha
04-29-2000, 09:13 AM
I wasn't fixing it, I was breaking it http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif (that's what killed my PSU)

Great response - I agree.

pickel
04-29-2000, 09:35 AM
I think that I like things as they are. I know I'm not too much of a "Helper" cause I'm still learning. I try to figure things out for myself and only really ask when that's the last resort. I like the fellowship and friendly atmosphere that sets Sysopt's alone. Not that Mr c's or Romulus2 guys aren't great but this board is like home to me ,regardless of the status thing. Like I said on another post, not being sarcastic or critical... if you don't like what you see..go to another thread. No sense raising your blood pressure over something you don't have control over. Come have fun, learn something, share your experiences. Were all brthoers and should act like brothers. Sometimes we disagree but this FAMILY here. Ya'll have a good weekend http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif


the pickel

Mntsnow
04-29-2000, 10:27 AM
Ahem "brother pickel" http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Thanks for noticing HD581 I'm lucky in that I usually have some spare time to donate to SysOpt as I do it for the enjoyment and the opportunity to still increase my knowledge (I learn something new EVERYDAY by visiting the bbs' that I frequent) But if you want to see something truly ULTIMATE just check out our very own SoCalGal as she is the true envisionment of a "ultimate member/mod" http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

Mntsnow

Wiz
04-29-2000, 11:47 AM
ytay, its not laughable, i did not say to go through every post. But make an educated judgement on wether or not the person has been helpful.

Warthog
04-29-2000, 01:53 PM
Ok....lets just drop this discussion and leave it the way it is. We never did have a problem to begin with. Great ideas everyone but there isn't anything wrong with the way it is now. The last thing we need is a popularity contest. Have to deal with that stuff in high school....

Warthog

Wiz
04-29-2000, 08:38 PM
lol, i agree with warthog, lets all forget this bickering.

Good thing this fight does not start everytime the question about posts is asked!

alpha
04-30-2000, 12:34 AM
It is not a good idea - people may feel that they've tried their hardest to help people and not be granted a status. It will create grudges and is ridicuosly time consuming.