Calf. fitness captial new health drink

[Gene C.]

http://news.lycos.com/headlines/Science/article.asp?docid=RTSCIENCE-ENVIRONMENT-WATER&date=20000417

[grandslammer]

Hmmm

No Schitt!

HA! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

Well, I NEVER thought I'd say I was happy to live in East TN, but ......................... I don't know, which is worse, living in one of the top three most polluted counties in the nation, or drinking pee (and *&%*!)?

I mean really, I've heard of having someone pee in your wheaties! But come on!

Thanks Gene, I LUV U MAN!

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[krusty the klown]

Mmmm... nice

What will they think of next? Feeding cow's brains to cows? Been done already.... How about feeding human excrement to the animals we eat? Oh no, that happens in France.

I guess all the rock that the water percolates through will filter out the chemicals, bacteria, viruses, etc (which presumably just contaminate the land). Quite what the "spreading grounds" (instant open air cesspool???) will harbour...

...Guess we'll all have to wait and see.

Better get those typhoid and cholera jabs up to date.

'Course, if everyone used less water....Hehe http://www.sysopt.com/forum/biggrin.gif


EDIT: Hehe - it gives a new meaning to the expression "eat $h!t and die", or is it "Drink p!$$ and die" now??


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[socalgal]

:P Yuck....

I'll take my store-bought bottled, thank you. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

CMonster, you work for DWP, would YOU drink this water??? http://www.sysopt.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Well, this should help keep SoCal's population from rising *cough* further.

[hd581]

Ugh, that's gross. Out in the country we sometimes run the faucet then just walk away forgetting it was on. But when I visited some friends out in LA, they were like "What are you doing?!?! CONSERVE!!" and I'm like "Conserve what?"

[Banti]

What do you guys think happens in a lake? When I lived in SoCal all of our water came from a lake. Fish (and other water life) **** and die in this water. Anything the body creates (and discards) is healther for you than decaying matter, but they clean the water and noone complains about the daed fish.

Banti

BTW According to the food chain and the carbon/nitrogen/water cycles that you learn about in earth science in middle school. Everything you eat contains elements from somethings execrement and/or decaying body.

[jad1097]

Now that is some s****y water!

[grandslammer]

You know, I remember waaaaaaaaaaay back in high school (yes I can actually remember back that far!) we talked about some type of plant that was used to purify water. They grew the plants on the "cleaning" reservoirs, and it thrived on bacteria and other things present in waste water. Supposedly it actually did such a good job that you could drink the water from there safely without further processing! Of course, there was more processing after that, but the thing is - just how effective these plants were.

Anyone out there remember anything like this?

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[Algee7]

There is nothing new about drinking toilet water... just ask any dog!

[hd581]

banti, drinking lake water and drinking "treated" sewage are 2 very different things. Lakes are huge. I don't mind if someone drops doo doo in a lake and mixes it around real good. OTOH, sewage is primarily gross stuff. They'd have to dilute it something serious to even approach lake cleanliness.

[OuTpaTienT]

oh yeah, it's definitely time to move. As if California's wacked out, left-wing, socialist agenda wasn't enough? But now toilet water? haha.

[krusty the klown]

Yeah, I agree,

comparing a few fish cr@pping and dying in a lake to a lake of raw human effluent - I know which I'd rather drink and live next to.

A lake is in balance: a cycle of birth and death, with the death of one giving food and nutrient to another. Raw sewage would be so concentrated in nitrates (and cholera, perhaps) that there is likely to be enourmous algal blooms and no other species present. It is imbalances like these that we see when fertiliser runoff from fields and runoff from farm muck heaps get into lakes - there is an algal bloom that blocks the light out to the bottom of the lake, resulting in imbalance and the death of the bottom layer of algae, which decomposes and further contaminates the lake.

But hey, it won't be in my back yard 'cos I live in England, where them cows go raving maaaaad http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[Banti]

krusty and nh581,

This 'lake' of sewage is not all human refuse. It is also the water you shaved with, Dish water, and other types or run-off. This 'lake' would not be a big turd, that Californa would suck dry.

The process is to take five years!! The human refuse would have settled and made grade A silt for plant life.

Banti

BTW The lake near my town had much worse things it beside dead fish, but I thought it might be nice if I only mentioned the fish.

Also,
Any one remember when drinking your pee, was supposed to be a health thing?? I believe it was a group of people in the far-east that drank their first pee of the morning. They said that it was a 'youth tonic' of sorts. My biology teacher laghed so hard when she told the class that she about pissed her pants. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[krusty the klown]

You're wellcome to the lake!

Hehe, I guess it will be known as 'turd lake city' http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

I'll just stick with the mad cows in England, thanx

[Szech]

grandslammer: Are you talking about sponges and hydras? `cause they're natural water purifyers.

As for my take on the whole matter, this is just another side project for getting water. I live here in Southern California, and they've been using "reclaimed" water in some cities for a while now. Here in Irvine, it's only used to water the plants, but in the next city over, it comes out the tap.
They had coverage on the news when they first started doing it, and it was pretty controvercial (obviously), but it was proved that the water was ~10 times more pure than water attained by more conventional means. I've been meaning to get water samples and some augar plates to test that theory, but I'm a very lazy person.
Anyway, after the water settles, they only skim the water off the top (leaving the **** at the bottom), and then they kill the bacteria, then they filter the remaining **** out of it. Sure it's disgusting to think that it was flushing down someone's toilet a couple years ago, but where do you think the water flowing down a river or in a lake was three years ago? And I'm not familiar with how they treat that water, but I'm pretty sure that they assume the bacteria / particle count is low enough so that they don't have to do much to it.
Not that I'm defending the practice, I'm just saying it's not that bad.

[grandslammer]

No that wasn't it, although I understand they are good at that.

No, these (as I remember?) were like lillies, or similar looking plants. Visible, and had leaves on top of the water.

Oh well, it's been a loooong time since I've seen them, so anyway...

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[Brywood]

That strikes me as kinda sick http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif, However i did pass it along to all my friends residing in California http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif.

P.S. They refer to me as a Floridiot but I'm LMAO over this...HA HA!!!!

Brywood

[tonym]

These folks, and I mean no ill-will to them or their families, are a pack of raving lunatics!

The implemetation of wacky ideas always come back with negative impact. Whence our common sense??

An example: The Mass DEP (Dept. of Environmental Protection) determined/demanded that my town have a new waste treatment plant to treat "effulence and solids" before they're piped into the Nashua River. This was to replace an "antiquated" plant (WTP), built in the '40's, that did this work. it was a small facility that had a digester and filtation and aeration capabilities.

Well in my memory, and in those who've lived longer than me, there was never a problem with solids of any kind escaping from the old waste plant! Occasionally an odor in the hottest days of summer, but nothing that was really offensive. And folks fished DOWNSTREAM from the WTP with no ill effects. Things were OKAY, as far as we knew.

Enter the DEP and the new WTP, a multimillion dollar tribute to engineering, science and waste! However, it stinks! And it doesn't just stink local to the WTP and in hot weather. It stinks ALL THE TIME! There's a shopping mall about a mile away and a popular grocery store that are unfortunately down-wind of this smell, and the grocery shopping experience is less than appetizing most days. In fact it can make you downright sick to your stomach!! And when it rains real hard, "effluence and solids" wash out of the holding tanks and into the Nashua River. And even in normal operation, solids are commonly seen in the River. But the DEP claims that the bacterial levels are acceptable and the solids are benign.

Now if the nuts in the DEP "poopocracy" wanted to pump this stuff, further filtered, into the drinking water resevoir in town, I think it would be the tea party and 1776 all over again! And the surviving environmentalists would be straight-jacketed for their own (and the public's) good.

Valley folks in California. Some advice. Don't take this lying down. Don't take the word of "experts" when it comes to your water. Experts make mistakes. Remember the Challenger or Love Canal or the Hanford Nuke Site in Washington State?? They said "can't...won't...shouldn't...", but it did!
Just don't let it happen to YOUR drinking water.


Sheesh...give me the old-fashioned poop progress over the new fangled stuff anytime...

Tony

[hd581]

Experts make mistakes. Remember the ChallengerJust to clarify (in defense of the space program), the "experts" who goofed here were the politicians who put pressure on NASA to quit delaying and just launch. They were embarassed b/c "important people" kept coming and seeing cancelled launches. Every time they say in the news about someone from DC attending a shuttle launch, I get nervous.