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lasa168
04-09-2000, 02:41 PM
Is the scsi interface the only way the 10,000rpm hard drives are sold. If not, what kind of 10,00 rpm harddrve is available. If so, do you think that in the future a 10,000 rpm hard drive will be available for the ide interface. Thanks.

brandon184
04-09-2000, 03:01 PM
The only 10,000RPM IDE hard drives I know of are sold by Quantum. (http://www.quantum.com).

seti
04-09-2000, 03:16 PM
Currently, the fastest spinning ide drive you will find on is 7200rpm.

10,000rpm ide drives will come along sooner or later. Such is the way of technology. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

Morpheus1964
04-09-2000, 04:12 PM
aren't the new IBM 75G drives due out w/ the glass platters and new head design going to be 10,000RPM ata/100 capable?

seti
04-09-2000, 04:24 PM
Nope, too bad http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif

The deskstar 75 gxp is going to be 7200 rpm as stated in the press release (http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/desk/deskstar75gxp40gv.htm)

What I would like to know is why they make jumps from 5400 to 7200 and to 10000. What prevents them from speeds inbetween?

oblivion
04-09-2000, 07:56 PM
There would be no logical reason to go from 7200 to say 8400.......they will try to jump about 40% in speed each time for awhile to come.

brandon184
04-09-2000, 07:57 PM
Weird.. I was under the assumption that the Quantum Atlas 10K was under an IDE interface.

seti
04-10-2000, 01:03 AM
No logic? They optimize the drives for speed in every other manner possible, it seams logical that they would do so with rotation speed as well. There's got to be a deeper reason than that, I don't think RPM speeds are specified standards, and yet all drive manufacturer's stick too them. I'm going to look around.

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sys-eng
04-10-2000, 07:46 AM
Before you jump on a 10K disk drive, compare the noise ratings. Some (many) of the 10K disk drives used in large systems are very noisy; however, in a production data center it really doesn't matter. I would not want a noisy one running at my desk though.

hd581
04-10-2000, 10:35 AM
Yeah? I'd take a 10k drive that sounded like a jackhammer. $.50 earplugs will solve that problem.

seti
04-10-2000, 02:10 PM
This is from "Tannin" on the StorageReview.com messabe board:


The reason against, say, a 8400 RPM unit is component supply. I am not an expert in this field, but I assume that when a hard drive manufacturer buys in parts for their new model from one of the hard drive component makers, they come in various speed grades. Bearings, for example, are no doubt made in various grades to suit various spindle speeds. I'd guess that to make an 8400 RPM drive you would need better than 7200 RPM bearings, and the next standard grade up is 10,000 RPM. If you are going to pay for 10,000 RPM bearings, you might as well put them in a 10,000 RPM drive. The same reasoning applies to other components, motors in particular.


I see how that could make sence. I still think there's some more reasons though.

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BBA
04-10-2000, 07:30 PM
There is a Seagate 10K RPM IDE and a 15K IDE soon to be released.

Now I have to find them...I feel so un-prepared...

BBA
04-10-2000, 07:42 PM
Ok...now I can't find it...darn!

seti
04-10-2000, 08:21 PM
Segate annouced the cheetah X15 scsi drive on the 23rd of Feb. In the press release it said it would be avalible to major OEM's in early q2.

The latest ata drive segate has unveiled is the Barracuda ATA II at 7200rpm. This was on January 31st.

10k scsi drives have been around for a long time already (2 years or something) and ide hasn't made the step up. So I wouldn't expect 15k ide drives for quite some time. I havn't seen or heard anything about 10k ide drives either except for this thread, so hopefully you can find that info! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif


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dkozloski
04-11-2000, 12:07 AM
I'm with hd581. I have 17 cooling fans and two 10k Seagate SCSI Cheetahs in my Athlon 700@900. When you click the mouse the whole world has to jump, anything else is secondary. As Stroker McGurk says, "if a little is good, more is better, and too much is just barely enough."

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