MILLENIUM SURVEY

[MAGIC 8-BALL and THE ELF]

When does the Millenium (Century, Decade) end? Why? - 8-Ball

To keep this from becoming unwieldy, please don't answer if there are 25 responses. Instead, we will open a "Part 2"(etc.) for your answers. - Elf

P.S. This one's not a contest, simply a query. 8/E

P.P.S. You can ignore the various changes in the calendar, Julian, Gregorian etc.; and when the theologians think Jesus, Our Savior, lived. The question is quite straight forward, as stated. 8/E

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[ENVY]

umm ya,it be 2001.Did I win? http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

[BBA]

Yea but...

Ad don't mean after death...

after denomination.

BBA

[Bleeding Edge]

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif In a giggling fit of laughter, I replied "We know."

[alan]

i thought it was ano domini
which is latin for??????????????

[AuraEdge]

Ano Domini - The Year of Our Lord
B.C. Before Christ
A.D. Ano Domini
Jesus lived 4 B.C. til 30 sumthin A.D.
You cant Live after death...well u could say u cant live before yourself either..the guy that made the B.C.-A.D calander plan missed by 4 years on a guess.. not bad for a blatant estimate
Oh yea... There was no 0 A.D. or B.C. (9 B.C. to 9 A.D is only 18 years, not 19) so teh first day of A.D. was January 1st, 1 A.D.
That would make the begining of the second millenium start on 1/1/1001...and 3rd millenium starts on 1/1/2001
And those M&M's on TV that tell u the milleniums close..its all an advertisement scam...they just want a lil more cash off people that cant resist the candy that melts in your mouth not in your hands before 2001, so when people notice thier wrong, itll be too late and they can run it again on 2001. **** M&M's...but thier soooo good (to eat casually of course....No I aint fat =) )

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[MAGIC 8-BALL and THE ELF]

Excellent answers, none sufficiently precise thus far. - 8-Ball

He's a nettlesome bug about the difference between accuracy and precision. - Elf

[AuraEdge]

00:00:00 of 1/1/2001 (military) = new mellenium?? 23:59:59'999= last split second of this mellenium?? Geez, whatcha tryin to get outta us?
EDIT
oh looks like i fergot the date..ok here i go
23:59:59'999 of December 31, 2000 is the last moment of our current millenium.


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[MAGIC 8-BALL and THE ELF]

Aura Edge understands the question. When he edits his last answer, it likely will match ours. - 8-Ball

Patience, Old One, there will be other views. - Elf

[Bleeding Edge]

The moment the clock strikes 12AM January 1st 2001.

Misunderstood Ball and Elf again.

For the reasons stated above.

[AuraEdge]

Hey Edge...he asked when it ended...lol
everyone was answerin when it began
thats accurate but not precise
accuracy is consistency.
Precisness is correctness.

[Bleeding Edge]

Lets see.. A millennium is a period of a thousand years. According to theology, the period of a thousand years during which some heavenly guy will reign.

We measure the concept (of larger blocks) of time in B.C. and A.D. Because of one man. This one thought: Before Christ, after death.

So the first year of the first century, ends up being the first birthday of this man.

So the 1st century A.D. is from 01 thru 100 A.D. Ending in 00. Thereby, making all the centuries in A.D., ending in the year 00. This makes the centuries ending before Christ, in the year 01. As in 200 B.C. to 101 B.C., the second century before Christ.

So then the millennium, the thousand year blocks of time, ends up beginning from the centuries before Christ. At the start of those centuries.

For an example. The period known as the 2nd Millennium was between 2000 B.C. and 1001 B.C. At the start of the twentieth century B.C.

But the millennium continues forward in it's set block of one thousand years past A.D., to one year past the beginning of the twenty-first century. Which is the first year, of the 21st century. 2001

As for the decades, forget abou' 'em. They just remind us we're getting old.


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[socalgal]

What he said.

[Eli]

Well said.

[Bleeding Edge]

I don't think so. It can't end at 23:59:9999... Time viewed that way will go on infinitely. So the end has to start at the moment the clock stricks twelve. The new new millennium would then have to start at 24:00:01 or the fractions of seconds before 24:00:01.

Does that make sense?

I tend not to think at times.


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[800XL]

The M&M marketing scam is more aimed at the actual Roman numeral year, MM, for obvious reasons. They are just capitalizing on whatever they can. I can't fault them for it exactly. Its better than many advertising gimicks I've seen or heard of.

In recent history, the year 00 has been thought of as the begining of whatever particular century just for simplicity's sake. Even though technically the year 1900 was part of the 18th Century, does it really matter that many of us don't think of it that way? Our calendar is off from its target start date by 4 years anyway so why fuss over a few arbitrary moments either way? I think a calendar based on stellar precession would make more sense anyway. Something with a nice 25,000 year cycle. We could even have "leap epochs" to make up for any imprecision. :P

[socalgal]

ok.

Until hour 23:59:59.999 of 31 December 2000, will continue being century twenty.




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[AuraEdge]

Its fun to see so many people beat down an answer (me included). I feel like a chicken watchin its decapitated body running around.

[dawgtuff]

By the "numbers",it does'nt end.Dec.31st 2000
at 23:59.99999999999....can go on forever.The
millenium starts and the old ends at that last "tick" of time,which really does'nt equate into exact numbers.

[800XL]

I think the arguement has gone into semantics and definitions of start/end points. Think of a century like going 100 feet. You have not gone 100 feet until you actually pass the 100' mark. This sounds like the old arrow hitting the apple arguement. If it goes half way, then half way of whats left over and over again, will it ever hit? I don't have an answer to "when will the millenium end" but December 31st, 1999 ends at 12:00AM (midnite). By the same token, January 1st, 2000 begins at 12:00AM. The end of one, is the beginning of the other. Its not like there is a point in between the two where you can say one has ended, but the other has not yet begun.

On the rest of the topic. There are several factors to consider, and insufficient information to determine one 'correct' answer. Is the margin of error (3-4years or whatever it is) of the imprecise beginning of the first Millenium (based on the life of Christ) factored in or ignored?

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[MAGIC 8-BALL and THE ELF]

Their answers are compelling. Shall we mention Roy's post "Another Millenium Question"? - 8-Ball

Eesnallyoop! Now you've done it! Snazzelfrt! - Elf