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1eyedjak
07-01-1999, 08:52 PM
I am about to install a new mobo, cpu and, cd-rom. I read from here that when you install a new mobo, you need to go to the control panel-sytem- device manager- and remove all the devices before instaling the new stuff.

Is that true. what do I need to do to make sure it is right and I don't have stuff on my system that I don't have any more or need?????

I haven't done this b-4. HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!

sjs74
07-02-1999, 01:51 AM
Well you don't sound too sure about your ability to pull this off just yet. My word of advice the first time, is try to find a friend who can help you if you have problems. Someone who can actually go and help you if you have any questions or at least look over your work when you're done to see if it looks good. I can't even tell you how many machines I have fixed just by removing and reinstalling a mainboard that wasn't put in just right.

sjs74
07-02-1999, 01:56 AM
Oh yeah, and about deleting all the stuff out of the device manager, just deleting the Plug and Play bios from System devices will remove just about everything else too, it is just a lot easier. Just remove that one device, shut down and do your swap, then you will have to run the add/remove hardware wizard when you boot up with your new mainboard.

I personally prefer to start with a clean install of Windows when doing a major upgrade, but it's not real necessary anymore. It was always a real pain trying to get Windows 95 to work after upgrading from a 486 though if you didn't do it just right. I'm assuming even your old computer is newer than that though.

1eyedjak
07-02-1999, 08:16 AM
I am replacing my P2 300 with a Celeron 466 and a MS6163 mobo. I am not really concerned with the physical part of the install. I was just concerned about any pre-install things I don't know about. I really didn't want to do a re-install of my Windows 98. IS that the best way to do it? Most of my stuff is how I want it and I really don't feel like doing it all over again.

all advice is appreciated. thanks

sjs74
07-02-1999, 04:03 PM
Well Windows is pretty forgiving when you are doing an upgrade from recent components. The main problems had to do with old hard drive controllers and stuff. Yes, I would recommend removing all your drivers though, it won't take too long to get them all reinstalled anyway.

2 ways to do this:

The first I mentioned before, just remove the PnP bios and shutdown.

The other is maybe a little more complete, but more work. Boot into safe mode and remove every device individually. It won't let you remove the individual hd controllers but don't worry about that, they will go away on their own with the dual controller. Sometimes you will have multiple copies of a driver in your registry and you only really get rid of them all if you do it through safe mode.

I don't think you will have to worry about reinstalling.

Roy
07-02-1999, 09:31 PM
I've swapped mobos without doing anything in the software.

All that's needed, in my experience, is to go to the Setup menus ("Press DEL") when it starts and set the clock/date, recognize the HDD, set the FDD, and check initial CPU parameters. W98 may ask questions, but probably not, since you're not changing any devices. It should wake up like a person who's had a body transplant. Through it's eyes, the world looks the same. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

About that CDROM change. Do it separately, either before or after the mobo.

1eyedjak
07-02-1999, 10:35 PM
I am going to have to replace the CD rom before I guess because as soon as I get the money from the guy who bought my old stuff I will have to ship it to him. I am awaiting all my new parts now. I am going to go and buy the cd rom tomorrow locally.

If I don't remove the old devices won't they still show up in the sytem as there but missing or something??It makes sense to have to remove the old CD-rom but what else should I remove?? Everything on the sytem will be new except the Hard drive. I am not sure if I want to mess with that unless i have to.

can someon tell me in plain English...
I am not stupid just cautious...


P.S.
Roy, I hope we both get the revised edition of the MS6163. I have been holding out for 2 months on my upgrades.

Roy
07-03-1999, 01:05 AM
Ah Ha! Since there's more to the caper than your first post indicated, the others certainly are correct. In that case, I'd Remove all devices to be replaced (except the new CD) in Control Panel >System >Device Manager and put 'er to sleep. Upon reawakening, W98 will discover its new parts and find or request drivers as needed. Have the W98 CDROM standing by. Be sure also to have a "Startup Disk" handy in case something runs amok.

Fingers crossed on v2.0! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

Ed_S
07-03-1999, 01:45 AM
Didn't see anyone mention step #1, maybe it's too obvious.

Do full system backup!!!!

As to what to remove & why, just went through this w. someone recently, here's the link, start reading about halfway through for what you need.
http://www.sysopt.com/forum/Forum2/HTML/001418.html
Explained it there as clear as I can.

craig722
07-07-1999, 12:27 AM
it's all at www.motherboards.org/build.
Get in the section on building your own PC.
Then click on the section entitled,"Acquiring". Then under the section
called "Preparation" click on the link in para 6 called Aug 97 Tip of the month. Go on down to the aug 97 tips (it makes for an interesting read too) and look for the para
"Before you replace a motherboard" I't all
there.