What can you take that is safe?

[Roraycr]

The following exerpt is in this morning's newspaper:

“A new study raises the disturbing possibility that taking vitamin C pills may speed up hardening of the arteries.”
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“Dwyer and colleagues from the University of Southern California studied 573 outwardly healthy middle-aged men and women who work for an electric utility in Los Angeles. About 30 percent of them regularly took various vitamins.”

”The study found no clear-cut sign that getting lots of vitamin C from food or a daily multivitamin does any harm. But those taking vitamin C pills had accelerated thickening of the walls of the big arteries in their necks. In fact, the more they took, the faster the buildup.”

”People taking 500 milligrams of vitamin C daily for at least a year had a 2½ times greater rate of thickening than did those who avoided supplements. Among smokers, the rate was five times greater.”

Maybe suffering through a cold is better!

[SysOpt]

I'd like to see the results of a study that says Vitamin C actually helps a cold. I have heard that it *may* reduce the severity of the symptoms in large doses but not prevent one. Still, we all need vitamins and minerals so I think a multivitamin and good diet are important, but some people overdue the whole vitamin thing - there just isn't any evidence that loading ourselves up with umptene vitamins is helpful, IMO. It's the whole human nature thing - if some is helpful more must be even better.

[grandslammer]

Tell 'ya what boys and girls, be careful taking too much vitamin c. I get into vitamins and minerals. In my own opinion, (and evidently more and more people every year..) I believe that you can improve your health, fitness, longevity and even brain function by taking a responcible amount of various suppliments.

At one time, I was taking (evidently!) too much vitamin c. I was also having kidney stone attacks at a rate of two to three a month! Talk about a pain! I found out from the pahrmacist that this is not uncommom with high intake of vitamin c suppliments.

Now, I mainly take selenium & vitamin e (which together can help memory and prevent altzheimer's and lessen your chances of getting nearly every kind of cancer except skin cancer!), ginko biloba, copper, & co-q.

And for men, watch out taking too much iron. With women, it's fine, because of monthly situations. But with men, unless you give blood at least two or three times a year, I wouldn't take an "lite" iron suppliment more than 2 or 3 times a week max.

Oh well, enough preaching, it's just that this is one of my things. And I have so few "things," that when I hit on one of them, well I wear it out.

Good Luck y'all...

Mikey P.

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[welsh wizard]

In my humble opinion there is only one way to get the right amount of Vits and that is by a healthy diet, Mother Nature has them packaged just right, when man starts messing with them you get extrs added, same with any pill, your body is capable of more than you give it credit for, if it give you pain it's telling you you are doing some thing wrong or there is some thing wrong, if you are run down then remember 5 a day (5 diff veggies a day will help give you the balance you need, as long as you don't cook the veggie Vits to death)
WW

[netsurfer]

Wow Grandslammer, some of those vitamins are expensive! I mean, stuff like Ginko Biloba isn't really that cheap, and the studies of it being able to improve your ability to remember don't seem to work (I've been watching the results on my mother). I believe more in the notion that the more you use your memory and brain, the longer it will last. It's the "use it or lose it" concept. Could explain why Hugh Down's at age 71 (?) still has great memory, he's a tv reporter for 20/20 so you can imagine he uses his mind a LOT. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[daveleau]

I question the means that the FDA uses to test things. One test they use is to give animals (usually rats b/c they are a good model) EXTREMELY high doses of the drug or food in question and autopsy it when it dies. If it ends up w/ cancer or (enter malody here), we find yet another cause of cancer or (enter disease here). This is not truly what can happen. That is how they find that red meat causes cancer other such nonsense. God put us on this earth to live in moderation. If we take too much of one thing or another, we are of course going to have consequences. This testing method makes the media go wild with stories of the new cause of death and dimemberment. It all a bunch of bull. Anything can cause disease in the right situations.
Ok OFF the Soapbox! Who brought that thing in here! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Dave

[jbob]

I personally think they will eventually say that everything will be bad for you, in one way or another. I don't take anything except the occasional asparin. What do you know, I havn't had the flu for 12 years, no flu shots. All these new "Wonder Drugs" that are coming out, to me are just a scam. I thing everyone reacts differently to everything. there's no study that can prove that the same thing will work for everyone. For instance, red meat, eggs, whole milk. My cousins used to own a big dairy farm. There, we used to eat red meat, eggs and whole milk EVERY day. The thing is, they are moving and working all day long. I know alot of farmers that are retirement age, and healthy.

Just my $.02

[U-96]

Anyone remeber Woddy Allen's "Sleeper"?

He woke up a couple of hundred years into the future and they've discovered that cigarettes are good for you....

U-96

[medo]

Hello,

U-96 I don’t have to wait another hundred years, I know that already.

About mineral from veggies – Soil is not any more efficient supplier of minerals (because of extensive agriculture) and you really need some supplements.
WW – NZ soil (north) do not have enough Zinc and some other crucial minerals.

Medo

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[OuTpaTienT]

Couple of my favorite quotes:

"Eat healthy, exercise,...and die anyway."

-and-

"#1 cause of death: life."

[Nathan G]

Three Things that are safe to take:
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Your Time
A Nap
Compliments
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[This message has been edited by Nathan G (edited 03-07-2000).]