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stu
03-03-2000, 07:28 AM
Going to get a larger capacity hard drive mainly for because I dont have the space to load all my digital video on when I'm editing.

Which do you all recommend as I have noticed a lot of the drives are pretty much of equal stats?

Stu

jbob
03-03-2000, 07:43 AM
In my humble oppinion, IBM and Seagate are the only choice when it comes to hard drive brands. If you do but an IDE drive, make sure it's 7200 rpm, and Ultra 66. Even if your current mobo won't support it now, in the future you may want it.

jad1097
03-03-2000, 08:02 AM
I have a Maxtor DiamondMAx 30gig 7,200rpm 2MB cache ATA66 drive and I like it.
YOu can also check this site out. http://www.storagereview.com/

Wiz
03-03-2000, 11:43 AM
maxtor's are cheap, but they are also cheaply made. Maxtor's almost always have bad sectors, i know for one that my maxtor 12.3GB has .5 GB lost to bad sectors, and i have never bunped it while it was running or done anything strenuous to it.

I'd go with IBM personally.

BadBen
03-03-2000, 11:56 AM
I have 2 Westren Digital one the 5200rpm ata33 and the other 13.7 ata66 7200 rpm. Never had problem and their also good when overclocking.

NavyDood_ F/A18_Mech
03-03-2000, 01:08 PM
Only one answer from me. QUANTUM.

Jim

M1pilot
03-03-2000, 01:28 PM
Quantum's been good for me too.

-M1pilot

wyvrn
03-03-2000, 03:42 PM
Someone posted here a few days ago that Maxtor's are made by IBM or vice versa. Gonna try to find if that is true. Never had a problem with either brand.

skywalker[TSG]
03-03-2000, 05:29 PM
NEC and IBM are the same
they both suck

i would get a seagate och quantum

jad1097
03-03-2000, 05:48 PM
I have an IBM part# on both of my Maxtor drives.

socalgal
03-04-2000, 12:02 AM
Make sure you check the serial number if you get a WD drive. I picked up a WD drive at a comp show that was one of their recalled drives. (It blew last night.) You can check the S/N at www.westerndigital.com (http://www.westerndigital.com) , Service/Support page.

youngqd
03-04-2000, 09:55 AM
I own a new IBM GXP and it is quiet and fast (make that super-fast). Old machine has a Quantum which has worked without problem but it is slow and noisy. I have a new Fujitsu and Maxtor but they are no match to the IBM.

Stan
03-04-2000, 10:36 AM
Video editing ??? hmmmm, you want speed I guess.
Well, assuming you are using IDE drives, the only choice (with the best value for quality) is two smaller size IBM from the 34Gxp series hooked on a Promise FastTrackRAID IDE controller.

You will love that combination !

Stan

tonym
03-04-2000, 10:58 AM
While working as a hardware engineer at a computer company for a few years and after evaluating all the vendor brands and hundred of different types, the winners are always: Seagate and Maxtor.

Accordingly, I personally use Seagate and Maxtor drives. I use the Seagates as my boot drives (usually 2.5 or 4.3GB) and the Maxtor 13.1GB and above as removeable data storage. I've used 30 different drives for about 5 years now (obviously the 13.1's have only been in service for 1.5 years but others of large capacity have!) and they haven't lost a single drive due to missing sectors or bad blocks or ??

FYI...

Tony

netsurfer
03-04-2000, 01:03 PM
Wiz, I can't disagree more. Maxtor's have come a LONG way. My brand spanking new DiamonadMaxPlus 40 - 40 gig smokes every IDE drive in the benchmark rankings on www.storageview.com. (http://www.storageview.com.) And you know what? I paid less than a brand new IBM 34 gig. While partitioning with PMagic4, I didn't have a single bad sector. Not one, in a >40< gig drive.

10 gigs per platter, 7200rpm, 2meg buffer, super quiet and mildly warm with a 3 year warranty (same goes for IBM and pretty much any other mainstream IDE drive).

Anyway, in regards to the topic- If you can afford to go SCSI, DO IT! And get a Quantum Atlas 10k (10k rpm, 5ms access), Atlas 5 (7200rpm, 6.3ms access) or if you can wait... get the awesome Atlas 10k II.

If SCSI is too expensive, then a raid IDE with a fasttrak raid and a pair of 13.6's. Mind you, this isn't an easy route (Stan may have wing'd it easily) as some of the things you'd read on www.storagereview.com (http://www.storagereview.com) are pretty troubling. You'd probably find as many success stories as failure stories. The biggest issue is finding two hard drives that will pair up in a raid efficiently.

welsh wizard
03-04-2000, 02:46 PM
Stu
if you want the best go IBM,
of the other makes.
Western Dig normally have a fantastic RMA service.
Quantum have a very good tech support, but down here in NZ they are let down by their importers if there is a warranty problem, so check out who deals with returns for them before going with them.
Seagate Down under have improved over the last 12 months and for a lower priced drive are proving to be very good all round with back service.
So who ever you choose check out their backup for ease of replacement or trouble shooting any problems local to your area first before buying.
WW

[This message has been edited by welsh wizard (edited 03-04-2000).]

richamies
03-04-2000, 03:05 PM
IBM part numbers(looking like this 96G1547) or FRU numbers(look the same) crop up on all sorts of hard drives, Quantum, IBM, Maxtor and Western Digital. Normally if you buy a hard drive and it comes with an IBM number on it, it was originally designated for an IBM machine, and has been pulled somewhere along the line.

IBM normally use WD/Maxtor hard drives, if they had faith in IBM hard drives wouldn't they use them in their machines?

I worked at an IBM brokerage for 2 years, and absolutely hate IBM hard drives. They are (or WERE) the worst things around, by a long way, in terms of reliability. but that was like 9 months ago so maybe things have changed?

Anyway, my personal thoughts are....

Quantum - The best for reliability, but a little more pricey than the others.

Western Digital - The best price/performance/reliabilty package.

Maxtor - Don't like them much, but I run 2 of them here and have not had a problem with them ever.

IBM - Internally Bodged Machines seems to sum it up http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif.

Personally, it's WD all the way for me. And almost all hard drives have at least some bad blocks/sectors/clusters, they are just covered up at the factory. IBM use a utility called FDUT(Fixed Disk UTility) and all it does is remap a bad block to a block at the end of the hard drive, so nobody need ever know it had bad blocks to start with.

netsurfer
03-05-2000, 11:36 PM
I think Western Digital has had two major service recalls with their hard drives recently. There could be more, but not sure... Anyway, it's great to know that a company is willing to fess up and take your hdd back and exchange for a new one... but wouldn't you prefer that issues like that NEVER happened in the first place?

Things like that bug me about WD, lots of people I've known have also had high failure rates with WD. But as with all HDD manufacturers, it will really vary. All hard drive manufacturers have created drives that have failed, some with a higher percentage than others... but that isn't really known. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

neo_otyugh
03-05-2000, 11:48 PM
i have had two western digitals fail in the past two years. have a friend that has used ibms for years and never had a problem.