Been outta the game for a bit...

[Pollux]

Alright, i've been out of the oc game for a little bit, but with a new job i have some money for some new computer stuff. I have an abit bp6 with two celeron 400's running at 600. i have a 128mb stick of pc100 and a 128mb stick of pc133. I'm looking into two new celerons, but i don't know which ones overclock the best right now (i don't even know how high cely's go anymore). so anybody with some info, it would be much appreciated.
-Pollux

[Bob The Great]

wow you have been out for a while. AMD durons are the way to go for oc'ing. I had a Cely. But had no luck oc'ing it.

As for cely's. I heard that the 566mhz are good. Some crazy people oc'ed thiers up to 1Ghz (they were water cooled though).

[LiLRiceBoi]

Tbirds and Durons overclock really well cuz they are unlockable.

I dont know which cely's are good though. But i know they are locked.

[Bob The Great]

You can pick a nice Duron up for about $45. And a new mobo for about $100. That's a bit more then a cely will run you. But it's really worth it.

The prob with all Intell chips is the are very unclockable. You can get some speed out of them (usually). But not enough.
Just my 2cents

[Buji]

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[Pollux]

durons eh? well see here's my problem, i don't really have the cash to buy a whole new mobo. and' i've been very impressed with the bp6's overclockin abilities anyhow. so are the cely 800's any good or anything like that?
-pollux

[Pollux]

I would doubt that one oc'd duron at 1 GHz would run as fast as two cely 800's oc'd to 900 or 1GHz though. I'm not sure the benefit of going down to one processor running at a hundred mhz or so faster than two processors. i might be wrong though.
-Pollux

[Pollux]

no more opinions?
-Pollux

[LemonHead]

go on son feel her bottom. uh never mind.

I agree with pollux (even tho his name is too much like B*ll*cks)

[JCB]

Those cels are maxed. They are also the old cel I's , so the board won't handle anything newer. Therefore you're stuck w/ em in that boards.

Sorry, but you have a good system. The new AMD chips (Palimino's) will dual up, but they're going to be expensive when they hit the market, along w/ the boards.

I bet a decent clocker at 1G will out perform them in most apps. Because most apps don't recognize a dual system.

[AuraEdge]

Pollux...theres the situation on recap.

Celly I's (what you know as the Celeron) go up to 533 and no more.
Celly II's, the Celeron based on the Coppermine Core (.18um), goes from 533-850, but theres two bad things about it.
1) They dont work on the BP6.
2) They dont run SMP. (Not just Intel says they wont, they really dont).

So thats two reasons.

Abit has a new one...the VP6, which will run Pentium III's in SMP, but your talking alot more money there.

The cheapest best performance route you could possibly take right now is Duron + Abit KT7E. You can clock most Durons up to about 1Ghz, and the KT7E's cheap. Oh...and On the AMD chips (including the Duron) you can adjust the multiplier. Sweet huh? Intel still has all thier chips on lockdown.

This is what you get from your config to the Duron oc'ed to 1Ghz.

1) -200Mhz total (but no overhead for SMP)
2) -64kb L2 cache, but +96kb L1 cache (One duron will outperform one celeron..Celerons are a joke now ever sicnce the Durons came out except in cheapo sub $750 comps).
3) +100Mhz-166Mhz FSB (Durons run on 200Mhz FSB default, and have the potential to be clocked in spec at 266Mhz, although some reach up to 300Mhz FSB.)
4) Better FPU (Games and other floating point apps will run faster basically).
5) Better performance in non-multithreaded Apps (Due to single CPU running 400Mhz faster)
6) More heat (Around 40-50C range for CPUs...cool that baby! The Golden orb don't cut it anymore, Great for Cellys, but tend to crush Durons. Check out GlobalWin FOP32 or Alpha 6035 for sufficient cooling without blowing your ears out).

Low-End SMP essentially died with the BP6..The upcoming low-end SMP will be with Durons. Theres rumors about them being SMP capable, but not officially, much like the Celly I. Budget SMP AMD boards aren't out yet however.

Anyways glad to have you back http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[Pollux]

Thanks AuraEdge and all who responded. That sounds like a really good idea. You'all can be very convincing about this type of stuff. Thanks again.
-Pollux