We could use a Linux Forum

[markdshark]

I humbly submit we could use a Linux Forum here on sysopt.

Mark

[Banti]

markdshark,
Is the Operating Systems Forum to cluttered??

Banti

[markdshark]

Yup....way too cluttered. Linux is rich, complex and deep enough a field to warrant it's own space time.

Just for an example. I just popped in there and the first post that caught my eye was titled "Device driver not ready". "Aha!" I thought to myself, "That's got to be about a linux driver," and so I promptly clicked on it. But nooooooo....YAWP (yet another windoze problem).

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[AuraEdge]

We could also use something for sound stuff, but I dont think its wide enough of a field to warrent its own forum. Maybe change video card and monitor forum to multimedia? That way it will all be included (and that forums not that cluttered anyways.
I am often faced with some problems or dilemmas when It comes to sound cards and/or speakers and I dont know where to put them.

[CMonster]

Markdshark;

I think we had a Linux forum - there was almost no activity and it got changed to Operating Systems. I too am sad to see it flooded with M$ marketites with questions that really belong in the techincal Help forum, but that is the way of the computing world.

Win2000 seems to be the latest cock-of-the-walk now, but what computer hobbiest or person in the IT industry can afford to ignore what Micro$oft is doing?

There was also a great Linux UBB forum at http://www.trail.com/~popeye but it got the AXE for similar inactivity.

Best I can say is to find a good Linux users group in your area.

[markdshark]

Yep Aye dew 4 1.

How about it Socal and the powers that be? Could it be time for Sysopt to grow like that certain plant in "Jack and the geekstalk" ?

;-)

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[chipbgt]

Is it that crowded in the OS forum? I think its fine. I do like Auraedges idea of changing it to "multimedia" , Whenevr I have a sound problem I have to stick it in general or technical.

[Serge]

1) *nix
2) web (html, cgi, etc.)
3) sound (making, editing, etc.)
4) cd-related (burners, cds, utilities, etc.)

- 1) *cough* SysOpt Features *cough*


http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

[SysOpt]

If you want a C++/etc. programmers forum, go to codeguru.com. We can't duplicate their content and there is no reason to. I might be willing to add a web developers forum, but again, this is a hardware site, not a "all computing topics known to mankind" site.

As for Linux, again, we had a separate Linux forum and it wasn't getting much traffic. It's covered under OS.

I'll consider other ideas but the more forums we get, the longer it will take for people's questions to get answered in those forums because the less traffic each one will receive. Plus, it will take you a really long time to go through all of the forums that you're interested in to look at the new posts.

As for SysOpt Features, it doesn't have many posts because we haven't been keeping up with starting threads for all of our new features. Even though some of you think that this board is separate from SysOpt.com, it isn't. It is very much integrated and a part of the whole site, and it is important to us that everyone here who only bookmarks the forum is aware of new content on the site.

Scott



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[markdshark]

hmmmm...You could always try a Linux forum a second time around...I mean aren't more and more folks switching over? Perhaps this time around there'll be more activity....and that would mean Linux users wouldn't have to wade thigh high through other OS stuff to get to what they want.

Just a thought :-)

Mark

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[chipbgt]

I uh...think he already shot ya down http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

I love all of Sysopt, not just the message boards. theres a load of great info on this page, I would encourage everyone to spend a couple hours lurking around (and clicking on sponsors, they dont do this for free ya know http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif )

[Nathan]

If you are interested, we have a Linux forum on our site that was just added. Stop by and take a look.

http://www.ehelpfree.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/Ultimate.cgi

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[shnikey]

I wish there was a proggraming, scripting and web page building forum.
Shnikey

[psyklone]

now there's an idea, a web developers/programming forum. questions about programming cgi with perl/python ... html questions ... java/java script ... support for BASH programming .... any type of question like this. anyone else agree?

[markdshark]

Chip I noticed ;-)

Sometimes persistence pays off, sometimes it doesn't. Ya never know unless ya try :-)
I do think my point about Linux being a growing movement is a valid one though. You know....maybe the time wasn't right.

On the other hand, a growing "anything" can always use a nurturing environment. I mean folks might be more inclined to switch or at least expand their horizons if they knew they could go find peer support easily, like for example if their favorite hardware site had a supporting forum they could go look for help in. It's kinda like a chicken and egg thing. We could kill it cos there wasn't much traffic, but by the same token we're kinda ensuring that there will never be much traffic by not really appearing to give it the "nod of acceptance" as a free standing entity.

On yet another hand (hmm...how many hands does that make so far?) Scott & Co. could just as realistically be waiting till the OS forum starts getting enough Linux momentum in it to warrant its own forum.

On the fourth hand...um....the fourth hand folds. The other three hands knock.

Nathan, thanx. Surfin' on over now.

:-)
Mark

[Apostle 83]

Sometimes persistence pays off, sometimes it doesn't. Ya never know unless ya try :-)
I do think my point about Linux being a growing movement is a valid one though. You know....maybe the time wasn't right.



This is a bulletin board! You wouldn't happen to be an Iranian terrorist, would you?

[markdshark]

nyope....not that I'm aware of :-)

[Joel Kleppinger]

Markdshark,

You hit it on the third hand. We think that if people really want to talk about Linux, they'll do it SOMEWHERE, and if not in the OS forum where else? The point was made ealier that it just doesn't get many posts... well, we noticed that and changed the topic from Linux to OS. It now gets approx. 4-5x the traffic the original Linux forum got.

If, in the future, we see a great deal of Linux posting going on in the OS forum, enough so that the Linux and Windows people don't want to intermingle the two, then we'd consider adding a Linux forum. But for now, things remain as they are.

I will continue to bug Scott about a Multimedia forum tho. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

[CMonster]

Hey Markdshark,

What Linux are you using?

[markdshark]

Thanx Joel :-)

CMonster,

Mandrake 6 kernel 2.2.something (19 I think)

I've got a minor problem here though. Ever since putting together the new Athlon machine, I went and reinstalled but I haven't gotten it back up yet. On booting into Linux (I prefer bootmagic), it just crashes.

Someone, somewhere sometime whispered something about Mandrake 6 optimizations for intel chips. Um....let's see....I think a have a little thread going in the OS forum requesting help on that note.

Mark

[netsurfer]

If you're interested in forums for linux, check out www.linuxnewbie.org (http://www.linuxnewbie.org) http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[Thor]

markdshark, if you need help with Linux then I have here a couple of links that should be able to assist you further with your problems.

Linux> http://www.linuxdoc.org/ http://www.opensourceit.com/tools/991101_redhat2.html

Training http://www.redhat.com/products/training_overview.html

First course> http://www.redhat.com/products/training_rh033.html

UK-Location http://www.redhat.com/products/training_locations.html#durham

Worldwide Locations http://www.europe.redhat.com/training/locations.php3

Questions about Linux http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/faqs/rhl_general_faq/FAQ.html http://www.redhat.com/apps/community/ www.best.com/~aturner//RedHat-FAQ/ (http://www.best.com/~aturner//RedHat-FAQ/)
www.gnome.org/ (http://www.gnome.org/)
www.kde.org/ (http://www.kde.org/)
www.linuxworld.com (http://www.linuxworld.com)
http://www.slashdot.org/
www.linuxdoc.org/docs.html#howto (http://www.linuxdoc.org/docs.html#howto)

Thor http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif



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[markdshark]

Thor,
Thank you :-)

and Netsurfer,
Ahh! That really hit the spot :-)