what socket is a K-6 150?

[samwichse]

Can you put a newer, mabye K6-2 or 3 in there? Is there some kind of adapter you can use? This needs to be as absolutely dirt cheap as possible (I just want to make it so you can surf the web with some reasonable speed, those who will be using this computer know nothing of games and the like), I had come up with another solution, but 200$ was too expensive (duron 650+cheap mobo+128 megs PC100).
Oh yeah, it also takes EDO ram I'm pretty sure, can you still even get that stuff?

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[kirk6677]

I belive it is a socket 7, but the motherboard will say. If it is a white ZIF (Zero insertion force) Socket it will say what socket it is on the wide part were the lever hinges on the socket.
if so then it would depend on the motherboard. If it is a brand name computer, then it may not be upgradable, and if so, it may only be upgradable to about 200 or 233. But then agian there are socket seven motherboards that handle up to 550 mhz which would be a k-63 550, but I think they are called super socket 7.
Like I said everything is a I think because I had not touched a computer until the p2 333s were hot and I have only had one or two socket seven systems, but I built my brother a amd k6-3 333 and I think it was a socket seven.

You can tell how much the motherboard will handle by looking for a dip switch or jumpers on the motherboard. most motherboards that I have seen are good about puting a extreamly small chart next to the jumpers that will show the fsb x multiplyer
for example 66 x 2 = 133 or something to that effect. most older motherboards vary a lot in the wy they were built and are not as common to each other as todays motherboards.
if it is a newer motherboard, it might have the setings in the bios.

Look for EDO on ebay

hope it helps, and good luck

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[araaraara]

The k6 is a pentium compatible socket7. Upgrading it depends on how old the motherboard is and what brand it is. If it is really old, like early socket7, then it probably will only have jumpers for a 233mhz cpu(66.6*3.5). If it is a newer model, it will take up to about a 550mhz cpu. If you want a replacement cpu, a k6-2 is you best bet. K6-3s are rare and hard to fine. While they may have been ~$50 a few months ago, their prices have risen like natural gas(a saw a k6-3+ 450mhz for $200!) Crazy! If you could find out your mobo, it would be very helpful in choosing recommending an upgrade. Now, if it is newer and will take a 500mhz k6-2, I think that I have the perfect chip. Check out www.pricewatch.com (http://www.pricewatch.com) I would go with the 500mhz k6-2 for $38, But it all depends on how much you want to spend. Now, check out pricewatch.com again for EDO ram. I saw 64mb for $36. Buy 2 and you will have 128mb for $72. Not a bad system for $120.

Is this computer for someone else? Like a newbie? That 150 should be fine for surfing the web. A little o/cing and it wouldn't even seem slow. 150mhz is fine for at least dial-up.

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[-biztyke-]

if it takes EDO ram, then i doubt its a board capable of any more than 233mhz...maybe even less. i used to have the same setup with an old gateway machine, took EDO ram..had a max of 233mhz settings, and the socket was labeled socket5(but thats the same format as socket7 basically).

id say take the plunge and get the duron, i doubt youd be able to get much more out of your current system.


woops, didnt see it was just for surfing the web. like what has been said, a 150mhz would be fine for dial up...if your on high speed go get an overdrive chip, or a winchip. you might be able to get it to 300mhz with one of those.....

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[Wilan Wong]

LOL, araaraara, you and your Winchip experiences. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

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[araaraara]

Hey, I should get a humanitarian award or something because of my efforts to save people the pain a winchip can cause. Only if I had a sub 133mhz pentium would I recommend a winchip.

Why is it that whenever you edit a post, all your html links are screwed up. It is getting very annoying to have to fix them every time!

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[JCB]

A new motherboard and chip is cheaper and far more productive. Screw Powerleap and Winchip.

[samwichse]

Well, I did some tinkering with the jumpers (it wasn't marked, but there was a double bank of them, so I just randomly moved them around) and the highest setting I could get was 233mhz. However, I am going to have to say that it's too slow because it needs to be able to run winamp while surfing, and it seems to choke going backward and forward even without it playing. Like I said though, I had priced 200$ for a new kx133 board, duron and 128mb of ram, and that was too much, so I guess either they'll have to fork over that much or deal with it being really slow.
Funny thing is, when I had it, I'd yet to learn anything about computers and it used to **** me off because it would restart totally at random, then I figured out that I'd been using it o/c'd to 200mhz (no idea who did that) with a broken fan on it's puny little heatsink for almost 2 years. You can't hardly kill an AMD chip, and after finding that out, I went and got myself another (an athlon classic system).

[JCB]

I still have an old PI 166@233, and it performs admirably as emailing surfer.

Be proud of yourself, that was a GREAT overclock.

[araaraara]

How much ram do you currently have? If your ram is low, an upgrade would definitly help. Look around on you motherboard for a little white chart printed on the top side. There should be one for the multiplier, fsb and voltage. My winchip can run winamp and surf at the same time, you pentium should be able to do the same with enough ram. The skipping is problably caused by read/writes to the swapfile. It could also be caused by inadaquate disk cache(low memory), or a slow hard disk.

BTW, aren't p 233mmx cpus mutiplier locked? Your cpu must be either unlocked, or already have the fsb raised. Post you motherboard ID string (found in lower lefthand corner during POST and memtest). If we can ID your mobo, then we can advise you better and figure out what your options are.

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[araaraara]

Don't get a Winchip! They are horribly slow and a true 233mhz Pentium MMX would kill any winchip2 233mhz, I know. I've had/have the torture of owning one.
Check you board for its highest fsb and multiplier setting. If it has a 75mhz bus or a 4X multiplier, you could try some overclocking, or even put a K6 or K6-2 in it. But I think that you computer is reaching it's limits. It's time to step up! Check out <A HREF="http://pricewatch.com" TARGET=_blank>Pricewatch</A> Check out motherboard combos. There is a 533mhz celeron + motherboard for $95. Not bad. Then get some cheap <A HREF="http://www.memplus.com/shop/SearchResults.asp?ProdStock=880022S" TARGET=_blank>SDRAM</A> . You may want to consider a video card upgrade. Unless you have a 8 or 16mb video card already. Check out a <A HREF="http://www.verasoft.com/32mbgeforce2.html" TARGET=_blank>Geforce 2 MX</A> . The whole package will still cost you ~ $130-200, but you will have a much better system.

Check out EBAY for parts as well. You may be able to find a some good deals on a cpu and motherboard.

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[samwichse]

I'll have to bump this back up later, that computer's about 400 miles away right now. By the way, it only has 32 megs of ram, which might be responsible for those solid minutes of disk access (the swap file you referred to?)...

[prexaspes]

Actually, to make a point that anything is upgradeable, I actually did an upgrade on an old Packard Bell computer. Slowly.

It was a 8mb ram 800mb hd PIO 4 with onboard Cirrus Logic 5462 video and Socket 5 75 mhz Pentium Classic.

It's now a 64mb ram (EDO @ 55ns), 13.6gb hd @ UDMA 66, Voodoo 3 3000, 400 mhz K6-2, with K6-3+ soon to enter. With that program (forgot the name) to enable K-6 stuff, it ain't so bad at all. I even play Unreal on it (not tournament) with decent visual effects. I'm fairly certain I can manipulate the BIOS to enable the tri-level cache.

The upgrades aren't so bad when they're trickled in.

I would like to take some time out to appreciate my fellow SS7 aficionado, araaraara. \V/ Live long and prosper.

[araaraara]

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/redface.gif

[samwichse]

Ok, I finally found the legend on the mobo, it only took a flashlight because they decided nicely to put it between ISA and PCI slots (which were occupied). I can get it to run just fine at 75X2.5=188 or possibly higher, but the problem I've run into is that for some reason, with the 75mhz fsb, the modem will pick up, dial in and everything (all the strange sounds), but when it comes time to send the user name and password, it tells me that the number I'm dialing isn't able to make a dialup connection. There is a jumper that has the option of PCI=.5fsb or 33mhz, but it's an ISA 33.6 modem. Any ideas?

The multipliers availible are 1.5 2 2.5 3, the fsb settings are 55 60 66 75 and 83, and the voltages can be 2.5 2.8 2.9 3.2 3.5v and is set at 2.8v right now.

[araaraara]

you didn't happen to notice a model did you?

[samwichse]

I haven't got the slightest idea. All the chips in the chipset say "VX pro" and it's nearly square (baby AT?) if that helps, but I tried for a long time to figure out who actually made it without any luck. There aren't even any serial number stickers or any of that ****.