What is a good dual celey 2 mobo combo?

[Clive]

I run win 2000 want to try a dual oc setup with the celeron 2. I need 5 pci slots. I saw the Abit vp6 and need to know what processor has been succesful with moderate oc example 100 mhz from 66.

[AuraEdge]

Celly 2 dont do the dually dance.
Intel cut out the Multiprocessing functions of the Celly2.

[krusty the klown]

That's a real pain, eh?

Looks like you'll have to go for (more expensive) P3's.

Provided you have memory capable of 133MHz, the VP6 + 2 P3 700E's @ 933 will make a storming machine.

AFAIK, CB0 and CC0 steppings of FC-PGA370 are fine for multi-processing.

The VP6 is a new board and I haven't seen many reports (other than initial trials). If it's older brother, the BP6 was anything to go by, it should be a class act.

I do not think that 933MHz is being unrealistic for a 700E, especially the CC0 stepping.

You might find this article interesting: http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/mainboards/abit/vp6/

[NDC]

Why in the heck did Intel make the newer generations of Celerons NON-SMP? That is so strange! What the heck are these guys thinking at Intel? Was there a special reason for this approach?

[Banti]

NDC,

They charge more for p3's than they do for cel2's. It is much better for Intel if we buy 2 p3 850's instead of 2 cel2 566@850. It all comes down to the almighty dollar.

Banti

[krusty the klown]

My guess is that they originally did not want the old Mendoccino core celery to SMP, they wanted to sell you the expensive P2 for high-end dual processor workstations and cash in on that market.

However, the anti-SMP on the original celerons was easily circumvented. I doubt Intel liked this.... especially as those in the know were well aware that, say a pair of Cel 366's clocking at 550 would outperform a much more expensive pair of P2 450's.

I reckon they made sure that the Cel-2 would definately not multi-process, forcing you to opt for the more expensive pair of P3's.

So Clive, it looks like you either fork out for the P3's or try and pick up a second hand pair of socket 370 Mendoccino celerons. In the case of the latter, I reckon the best ones to go for would be a pair of 366s running at 550.

alternatively you could wait until the dual AMD boards are released: http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/Forum3/HTML/009816.html

[Clive]

I already have a 550e running at 733 with a p3v4x and 256 pc133. Would dual processors really make a difference?

[krusty the klown]

Depends on what apps you run and what you use your computer for.

For a dual system, you (probably know this) have to run NT (yuck), W2K or Linux. Most games (AFAIK) will not take advantage of both processors, but if you like to play a game and burn a CD at the same time, duals are an advantage. Some games and hardware will have probs with W2K.

The better image processing software should use both processors, as should decent 3D rendering software, which involves a lot of number crunching. If you want to do stuff like computational fluid dynamics (CFD) on a Unix platform, you will be compiling the code to use both CPUs anyway, so there will be an obvious advantage! (not that many PCs at home get used for that http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif )

As you have a P3@733, I would not recommend going for a dual celery 366@550 combo if you want better performance, unless you just want to experiment (cheaply) with a dual system.

Certainly my 550E (Slot1) did 733 like a dream (retail heatsink, default core voltage). Probably the cheapest way for you to get into dual processor systems and not suffer a performance hit is to try and pick up another Slot1 550E second hand and go for a dual Slot1 mobo that allows you to overclock (sorry, I don't know of many..... praps second hand?????)

EDIT: reading material: http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/Forum5/HTML/005035.html

[This message has been edited by krusty the klown (edited 01-11-2001).]