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burgy
08-19-2000, 05:08 AM
i have heard that the amd duron 600 can be clocked easily to 800!!! is this true? if so what can the duron 700 be taken to? i dont want loads of extra cooling maybe just one fan, i havent bought it yet, as i have a celly 366 up to 458!! what upgrades do you guys think i should go for?? i want to spend as little as possible (duron/celly) and can you recommend a good mobo? oh im in the uk as well, so bear that in mind if you will!!!!! :0) ta guys.

otheos
08-19-2000, 10:45 AM
The 600, I don't know, but my 650 does 1000 with an alpha HS/fan. Although 1G is not that common, 950 is for the 650. I would not expect the 700 do go much higher though.

You definetely need a mobo with multipler adjusting, as the ASUS A7V or the ABIT KT7. go for either. look at www.dabs.com (http://www.dabs.com) for mobos at a good price. I'd go for the ABIT although I got the A7V.

As for the celeron? double the price (almost) half the performance.

The duron is a good bet as you can upgrade to an Athlon when you can.

total? well www.scan.co.uk (http://www.scan.co.uk) (not the best of etailers) had the 650-A7V+a plain cooler for 169+Vat+10delivery. (Check their "Today Only Page"

That's a good price.

Do not buy "guaranteed" from any overclocking etailer, all 650's do 900 @ 1.85V (just watch the temps) and make sure you put the HS the right way and use only the jumper mode not the "jumperless" (all this advice goes for the A7V).


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burgy
08-19-2000, 04:45 PM
cheers otheos a little more knowledge gained!! is it as aesy as multiplier settings? like my current celly? or is it more complicated? any advice is welcome!! thanks again! :0)

werd
08-19-2000, 09:10 PM
I have seen a 600 post at 1200. . . I'll see if I can dig up the site. I ahve a duron system that I am building right now and I have gotten it to 690 just by increasing the bus to 115. 117 it would post and that is about it. that is about all the KT133 chipset can do anyway. I have a thermaltake orb on this one but I would not suggest useing it. the GW FOP-32++ is a good cooler for it, but the clip also aplys alot of pressur to the core and might crack it.

yes these chips are being DIP switch set, yet some boards in the future might be useing the soft settings sometime closein the future

edit: make sure your chip is not locked before you atempt your overclocking adventure. ..just check the L1 bridges and make sure they are connected, if not you can use a pencil to conect them

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otheos
08-20-2000, 12:35 AM
If you have overclocking in mind, ASUS A7V and ABIT KT7 are the only boards that allow you to change the multiplier. My asus has dip switches to change the multiplier and although it has jumperless (i.e. throught the bios) settings for the rest (FSB and CPU core voltage) it is unstable when overclocking in jumperless mode. So in effect it's back to moveing jumpers etc etc. The KT7 is far superior in that respect everything is done through the BIOS. Like I said it's preffered over the A7V but if you can't find it go for the ASUS.

Now, the latest Durons/Athlons seem to be multiplier locked. The old ones where just auto setting (AMD thought it was enough of a locking if motherboards did not have multiplier settings -like most do). But with Asus and Abit having multiplier setttings AMD got pissed and "really" locked them. To unlock them is as easy as abc, so don't worry about it, as lond as you can "draw a thing straigth line about 0.5mm long" to connect the infamous L1 bridges (a set of 7 couples of dots on the top of the CPU that if open the CPU is locked) with either a convecting liquid (more of that when you get to do it) or with a fine tip pencil. Don't worry it's piece of cake.

As for the overclocking itself, its very simple. Since the VIA chipset allows asynchronous RAM setting you do not need to have the best sticks, you just leave your mem to 100 (if it can't take it or 133 if its better) and overclock the FSB to anything you like, or just let the RAM to sychronous mode (if its good quality) and take it as high as possible. But the VIA chipset is not very efficient in FSB clocking. The highest you may go is 115MHz. So you just set the multiplier to 9x100, it works? ok take the FSB to 105, 106 or as high as possible, unless you can do that with a higher multiplier etc etc. If you ever had a K6-2, it overclocks in exaclty the same way. Try for as high as possible with the best combination, always with the FSB as high as you can.

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burgy
08-20-2000, 02:34 PM
thanx guys!! my head is spinning now!! LOL!!!!

Musashimaru
11-19-2000, 02:44 PM
Duron 700 should get to 950Mhz easy. You also shouldn't be suprised to find it pulling well over 1Ghz!

Missing the point
11-19-2000, 02:48 PM
I may be a little late on this, but check out the Guide I did on Overclocking Durons:
http://24.113.124.19/NewDesign/Duron/Page1.htm

It should help you out nicely http://sysopt.earthweb.com/forum/smile.gif

shifty54
11-19-2000, 06:27 PM
burgy...definitely go for the Abit KT7...it's one of the best if not THE best for overclocking a Duron. My 700 is running at 980 and I could push it a lot more if I wanted too! Get good quality SDRAM and cooling and you're in business. The Duron's are cheap right now...you may pay a bit more for the Abit than others with multiplier control but it's worth it...after all it is one of the most crucial pieces of the puzzle...don't skimp!

unikiller
12-17-2000, 04:20 PM
well i dunno i got a duron 700 mhz and it won't go over 850 mhz