please post anything about k63450+ here

[social disorder]

i just ordered one of these please let me know how they are and what to expect .
what is the best it will overclock how high have you run the voltage,and so on
i have a fic503A and it supports it so ill try it at 2.0v and 6x100 to start with.
also let me know what kind of temp it is running at.

[RADAR1797]

I have the K6-2+ 500 on the FIC VA-503+ MB, but alas I could only make it go 550. I played with it for a week before I had to pack up for my move, but I will again be playing with it soon and hoping for 600. I know AMD's whit papers say not to take it above 2.1v, but I have to ask, did they do that to make it harder for us to over clock or is there a sounds reason? Intel chips on the .18 micron process can vary from 1.5v to 2.0v, a far larger range than AMD has published.

-RADAR

[This message has been edited by RADAR1797 (edited 10-17-2000).]

[sunofwolf]

My k3450+ is at 551 and stable , you only need 2volts. Had it at 2.1 and had a computer meltdown, not sure if it was the extra volt or not. Chip might hit 600 but be carefull about volts because i think this chip blows up easy at high volts. It might even hit 550 at lower volts. I cant find out how to set my DFI to 600. I know other boards can do it,! But it is running perfect now at 550 and is very fast, so dont care that much. This is the best 7 chip made other then the 500+ that no-one has, don't think amd made many = they must be in high end notebooks, But a guess is this might be the same chip? Thats why it hits 550 so easy= that make's it a real deal. Try 550 at 2volts= may be the best stable setting for chip= unless i can find the 600 setting=it might not work?

[social disorder]

well i got the **** thing and it wont boot any sug.? i have a via503a mb

[ThiemeMD]

Just got my K6-3+ 450 today... ran it at 450 for about 2 minutes just to to make sure it was OK... Never looked back! Running now at 112x5=560mhz, at 2.0 volts, on an Epox MVP3-G2. Tried 600mhz(100x6) but wouldn't POST. The POST screen identifies it as a K6-3,with correct speed, but not a + sign, but there is no BIOS update available yet.
Idle temp = 28c./82f.
I haven't run loaded tests yet to find out those temps.
So far, I like this little bugger....




[This message has been edited by ThiemeMD (edited 10-21-2000).]

[sunofwolf]

Check to see if motherboard supports this chip! My DFI does and reads chip correctly, I am not running that motherboard and I am glad, This is the most modern 7 board out. And I got two for the price of one. Old one was using 33 controllers, This one uses 66. You must have a dud. This is one of three DFI 's that i got. Tccomputers replaced it three times. Probly nothing wrong with replacements but i lucked out getting the latest model.DFI K6XV3+/66. Successfully running at 551+ from a K3450+! They cost about 72$. This chip is running like a bear! And would hit 600 if motherboard had the setting, people say it does but i tryed all the setting 550 is all i get! This is very fast I bet the duron is slower at 550. The only chip faster is that althon.You must have 2volt setting to run this chip right- even 2.1 made chip= werid. Temp is around 40C with silver grease=may lap it , but you won't see much a drop in temp because artic silver is so good. GW heatsink 26 fan, three 80's hung by fishing line, two little heatsink fans also=plenty of air moving around in a tiger mid tower. Going to add 128mb-more memory to 160mb it has now= this motherboard support's 768mb of pc100=thats enoth to never see hard drive do anything!=288mb= memory pig!

[skeegin]

social disorder

I don't know much about FIC, but this site (http://www.hardseeker.myweb.nl/reviews/amdk623plus-list/k623comp.htm) says something about needing the jn4116 bios.

[social disorder]

thanks skeegn.
i got it to post at 300 but it reported it as a -mmx@66mhz what the hell is that must be the bios i have jn412

[Variable]

I don't get it!
There are about 500 Posts !!!!!!!! in this Forum that the K6 chips remap the 2x multiplier to 6x !!!remap the 2x multiplier to 6x !!!remap the 2x multiplier to 6x !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!re map the 2x multiplier to 6x !!!remap the 2x multiplier to 6x remap the 2x multiplier to 6x !!!
remap the 2x multiplier to 6x !!!
When will people get this????
When will people get this????When will people get this????When will people get this????When will people get this????
When will people get this????

And the 2x Multiplier settings are in all the manuals!!!
And the 2x Multiplier settings are in all the manuals!!!
And the 2x Multiplier settings are in all the manuals!!!
And the 2x Multiplier settings are in all the manuals!!!
And the 2x Multiplier settings are in all the manuals!!!
And the 2x Multiplier settings are in all the manuals!!!
And the 2x Multiplier settings are in all the manuals!!!

cool°
Variable

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[wildbuffalo]

First time tested it at stock voltage and speed (2.0v and 450), booted the computer loaded the windows PERFECT! Shutdown the c and set the multiplier to 2X and voltage to 2.1v booted BIOS reported it as K6-III (no plus) at 600, loaded the windows PERFECT! ran CPUBurn and CPUBURN MMX overnight, no crahes, temperature max out at 41C, idle temp 27-28C. Kept the case and window open while burnin.

Used CPU Cool utility to change the FSB from windows (Win2KPro), 103x6 = 618 stable at 2.1v, crashes at 112x6 (didn't up the voltage).

I have benchmarked the CPU using Sandra and Wintune 2000. Do not have the figures right now (I am in school). Though the memory benchmark in Wintune hits 1250MB/s.

If anyone is interested in full benchmarks, I can post them in the evening.
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EPOX MVP3G2 (BIOS 04/12/2000)
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Wild

[Dputiger]

Let's see it running at 100*6, if you don't mind. This is probably the best setting most users will get, since most SS7 boards don't support over 100 Mhz FSB.

I want to see how it compares against my K6-2+ @ 600. So if you could run some Sandra Millenium and Quake III specs, I'd really appreciate it. Also, what's your system layout?

[wildbuffalo]

OK, here are the benchmark results:

System specs: MVP3G2 (BIOS 04/12/2000), K6-III+ 450 oced to 600 (100x6) 2.1volts, PC133 Generic 128 mb, Maxtor 66/7200 HD, and PCI Savage-4, Win 2K (sp1). (I am not a gamer, use computer for DATA analysis, word processing and web surfing only). Sorry do not have Quake III, only Sandra and Wintune.

Sandra 2000: Identifies the CPU as AMD K6-III+ 601 (mobile)

CPU Drystone 1480 MIPS
FPU Whetstone 780 MFLOPS
Integer MMX 1470 it/s
Floating-Point 3DNOW 2160 it/s
ALU/Memory Bandwidth 164 MB/s
FPU/Memory Bandwidth 180 MB/s

WINTUNE

(1) 602 MHz
1614 MIPS (Integer operations)
725 MFLOPS (Floating point operations)
146 (Integer application simulation)
77 (Floating point application simulation)
139 (MMX application simulation)
1231 RAM MB/s
208 cached disk MB/s
5.7 uncached disk MB/s

The m/b does support 112 and 124 FSB. Have tried them before with my K6-III 350 CPU. With CPU cool it also supports 103,115, and 120 fsb. Though the BIOS has a setting for 133, it only works when you underclock the cpu.

Finally I am quite happy and satisfied with this upgrade. For $56 its worth it. And since, I do not play games the setup is more than adequate for my requirements.

WILD

[doctj]

Could someone post how these benchmarks compare to a duron 600?

[Dputiger]

They won't.

The Duron 600 runs on a 200 Mhz bus and has FAR superior FPU performance to the K6-3, plus carries onboard cache.

The K6-3+ would be crushed by the Duron.

[doctj]

I know it would, but however temple of technology posted an article comparing a duron 600 to a k62-400, thereby justifying the upgrade. I was interested to see what the relative performance difference would be to recommend a k6+ to a friend as a cost efective option rather than investing in a whole new system. I think if the difference is 25% or less it would be worth it.

[doctj]

I know it would, but however temple of technology posted an article comparing a duron 600 to a k62-400, thereby justifying the upgrade. I was interested to see what the relative performance difference would be to recommend a k6+ to a friend as a cost efective option rather than investing in a whole new system. I think if the difference is 25% or less it would be worth it.

[ThiemeMD]

WooHoo!! Just got the K6-3+ 450 running at 600 (100x6). At 2.1 volts.
My system setup is very similar to wildbuffalo's. Epox MVP3-G2 w/128 meg ram.
I only have Sandra 2000, but here are some results:

CPU Drystone = 1531 MIPS
FPU Whetstone = 748 MFLOPS
Integer MMX = 1479 it/s
Floating-Point 3DNOW! = 2178 it/s
ALU/Memory Bandwidth = 163 MB/s
FPU/Memory Bandwidth 165 MB/s

From several reviews I've read, the Epox MVP3-G2 is not the best performing SS7 mobo out there. Looks like the FIC VA-2013 (ATX)or FIC VA-503+ (AT) usually do quite well, or if overclocking the FSB is not a issue, the Tyan Trinity 1598 (ATX) or TYAN Trinity 1590 (AT) perform very well. (granted, I doubt you are shopping for a new SS7 mobo. just FYI)