screenshots air cooled 600e@945

[Dr.T]

Just learned how to do this so I hope it comes up http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

http://mark.goff.com/945a.jpg
http://mark.goff.com/945b.jpg
http://mark.goff.com/945c.jpg

What do you think for air cooled? http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[rotax]

how do you get 157.5 fsb?
the .5 is funny...
im not sure about this...
air cooled...
hmmmm...

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[Amorpheous]

maybe he has a motherboard that supports bus speed increments of 1mhz. weird how sandra reports p-3 as celeron 3...

[Nick66]

Could you post some Q3 scores, say a nice timedemo like Q3Crushah. It would be appreciated. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[Dr.T]

I am getting a copy of Q3 and Unreal Tourn this week. I will post scores as soon as they are available. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[Brydon]

I believe you Dr.T...mine almost boots into win98 at 900 but I reckon I need more than the 1.80v I can give it. Does anyone know if there are any other ways of raising the voltage by pin taping or whatever. I have a Soyo 6vba via apollo 133 and wat more voltage than the 10% increase over stock that the bios lets me have.

[wtp]

how do i get those snapshots of the benchmarks?

[Keermalec]

WTP, Don't know if sandra has a built-in thing for taking snapshots but with any windows app you can hit your PRINTSCREEN key and a pixel copy of the screen will be copied to your clipboard, you can then paste it into your favorite image editor (eg PaintShop Pro) to edit and save as JPEG or GIF.

PRINTSCREEN will copy the whole screen, ALT+PRINTSCREEN will copy only the active window.

P.S. Better to save as a GIF than a JPEG for low-colour count images such as these.

[plucky duck]

Dr. T - what kind of ram are you using?

[Dr.T]

I'm running:
Abit Be6-II
Micron pc-133 128meg
maxtor 10gig 7200rpm HDD
Creative PCI128
Viper V770 non-ultra @ 150/180


I don't know why it reports that way 157.5, but the bios is set to 157. It will step in 1 mhz increments up to 200. I have a patch that is on the way that is supposed to clear up the Celeron thing too.


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[alpha]

Way to go!! You're doing really well with that Viper - 100mhz+ agp - you might fry it, be careful. You might want to consider a VIA133 board.

[bkehoe]

Looks like I'm the only odd one out. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif

My 600E will only go to 744MHz at 1.7 volts.

It will only operate at 800Mhz at 1.85 volts, at which it starts getting hot.

Mine is Socket 370 in Asus adapter in an Abit VA6. I have the retail Intel heatink with a better fan screwed on.

Maybe I'll get a new heatsink - anyone got URLs to the best Socket-370 fan/heatsink?

Also, Ii will be getting an Asus Apollo Pro 133A board coming on Monday so I will soon see if it was my VA6 stopping overclocking.

Brendan

[Brydon]

Well Dr.T after watching your continuing succes with the same cpu as mine I bit the bullet and voided my 3year warranty and ripped the case off my P3 600 and it was scary I can tell you. I used the retail sink for now and held it on with four small machine bolts and fibre washers so now it is a lot cooler and air can circulate freely around the cpu. I am typing this at 900mhz and it has been running RC-5 for the last 12 hous with know problems http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif I have not tried any 3d games yet but I will soon as that is the real test. Just had to show you these http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
edit-I notice my mm score is a lot higher than Dr.T is this cause I did it in Sandra2k

http://www.zyworld.com/Brydon2/p3900.gif

http://www.zyworld.com/Brydon2/p3900sisoft.gif

http://www.zyworld.com/Brydon2/p3900sisoftmm.gif



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[Dr.T]

I don't know about the sandra 2k, but I have a copy on the way. I will repost after I get it. As far as frying my V770, I hope not! It would, however, give me an excuse to get a Gforce card http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif ....hope my wife doesn't read that http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[yipikayee]

OK, guys... this is impressive but what about memory test results... post some so I can compare it to mine

[Brydon]

The memory results are not too good as I have a fsb 150 but the ram clk is 113. I also have to set "memory ultra fast" to disabled in bios but with it enabled and at 800 fsb 133 memclk 133 the highest it goes is 295 so I am not sure why but the memory ultra fast thing causes bsod even with pc133 running at 113mem clk. This option only appeared when I flashed my bios yesterday.What are your scores Dr.T for comparrison http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
http://www.zyworld.com/Brydon2/p3900memsisoft.gif

[yipikayee]

what bios date do you have?
i have the same board and bios date is 03/28/2000... can't find that "memory ultra fast" setting... or is it just me?
I have my Celery400 running at 600 and my memory speed index is somewhere 290/270. It is PC100CAS3 stick... but your memory speed is just... don't find words...

[Brydon]

I flashed it yesterday with the latest one (feb 2000) and in the first soyo setup screen I used to have y2k hardware rollover or something(last option on the right) but now I have the memory ultra fast option instead. I guess we dont need the y2k rollover anymore http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif. The board is a Soyo 6vba 133

[Brydon]

Just spent a while at Toms place and I now understand why the mem scores are slow and all my other benchmarks are poor compared to when I had it on my BX440. Seems the apollo 133 chipset is very poor when it comes to memory bandwidth. When ihad it on the BX@800 and my GeForce@130/340 I got 5500 in 3dmark2k but now the best I get is about 4700. I am going to swap it back into my BX tomorrow and settle for 800 coz it is a lot faster overall. Check out this review http://www7.tomshardware.com/mainboard/00q1/000308/index.html
and I think you will see that I will be better off. It will also give me a chance to go higher than 600 with my trusty celeron 400a on the via appollo board.

[plucky duck]

Brydon, holy smokes!!! After seeing your memory benchmarks I ain't gonna go with apollo pro133 mobos no more...NO WAY!

With my bx mobo right now @ 840mhz, I can achieve 350/330 in Sandra memory benchmarks.

I need better ram to get it up to that 150mhz FSB mark.... http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif

Plucky

[wtp]

how do i put my benchmarks in my post.

[Brydon]

I don't blame you Plucky, I am just about to put it back into my old BX as it is way faster but I am limited to 800. Even at 800 on the BX though it beats the apollo hands down. I,m gonna get another board for it but I will wait a while and do some more research. It seems if you go with the apollo 133a it is much better and guess which one I got. I,ll post results from the BX to let folks see the comparison.

[Dr.T]

CPU 388
FPU 373

I'll post the pics later, I have to send them to a friend to get them uploaded on his site. This memory is 3,3,3 so probably the reason for the bad score.

[Brydon]

I just finished swapping the boards over and now am running P3 600@800 133fsb/mem clk and it sure makes a difference. I am going to stick with this for now and have put my celery on the soyo 6vba 133 and had it doing 400@630 but I've not had time to play with it to see how stable it is but I'll keep you informed. My advice is to make sure if you go for a via apollo 133 make sure it is the newer one which is the via apollo 133a which has better memory performance....well I guess you learn from your mistakes http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif
http://www.zyworld.com/Brydon2/p3800memsisoft.gif


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[Konan555]

Dr.T

I'm not entirely convinced that those initial results are entirely accurate.

The PR rateing is the clock speed the original pentium would have had to of been set to to equall the performance of your chip. Your PR rateing is the same as your clock speed. This means that the architecture of your chip has the same performance as the original pentium designed back in 93.

You should either e-mail sisoft with a bug report / make a better job of editing the screenshot next time - whichever applys.

[Brydon]

Does look strange huh?. Guess that is why the multimedia scores were so far out?. Another thing is why is mine saying P3 and Dr.T's saying celeron 3 http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif

[felix726]

I think that is just because he was running 99 and you are running 2000. 99 reported my 550e as a celeron III also, then when I went to 2000 it reported i correctly as a PIII CuMine.

[felix726]

thats an interesting observation Konan, I just benched my 550e @ 775 (1.70v) and my PR rating was 928. Something smells fishy, oh wait thats my lunch, but seriously something is afoul, wait no thats my trash. Wow I need more sleep.

[Dr.T]

Well, I'm not here to defend myself or the results I have posted. If you choose to disbelieve them, that is your option. I just thought I would post them because (I) was excited about (my) results. You are welcome to come to Columbus, Ohio and see for youself. I have nothing to hide.

Sincerely, Dr.T

[Guy Until The Bridge]

where can i download WCPUID ?

[Dr.T]

Anyone on this board is interested in seeing any additional posts of my progress, you can find me at Hardware Central. I will no longer be posting to this forum. While there may be people making fake posts, I am not one of them. As a physician, I hold myself to a higher standard than that.

[richamies]

My benchmarks have the same problem as Dr.T in that the PR rating at the bottom is set to the speed the CPU is running at. www.richamies.co.uk (http://www.richamies.co.uk) These were done at the start of the year, not been fiddled with by myself. The benchmarks for my celeron have the same problem, maybe Dr T has a celeron instead of a P3? Maybe the PR rating only works with P3 chips? I'm not sure, but in all honesty I don't doubt his benchmarks. They have a truth ring to them.

Way to go Dr.T!

[Konan555]

Let me clear a couple of thisgs up.

1) I was winding Dr. T up. I was perfectly happy to accept it might me a bug in sandra. But he went all protective.

2) PR rateings are universal and calculated by sandra from the performance

e.g.

(CPU performance/Clock speed)/(P100 performance/100)* Clock Speed

[alpha]

Actually PR is how many mhz a K6-2 would have to run at for that performance - P is pentium.

[supercooled]

Something about Dr. T's post was strange kinda looks like somebody did a really BAD attempt at editing and the benches sucked for his cpu. The p3 600e@900 was also a little dissapointed. I recently bought a celeron 2 566 and have got it to post at 1050mhz and the benches at 1050 really kick that 600e@900's ****. I wanted to upgrade to cumine thinking performance really sticked out but due to these weird results i might not. Oh yeah here are the benches.

WCPUID
http://www.kolumbus.fi/tuomas.saari/1049.jpg

Cpu Benchmark
http://www.kolumbus.fi/tuomas.saari/cpub1049.jpg

Multimedia Bench
http://www.kolumbus.fi/tuomas.saari/multib1049.jpg

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[alpha]

Do your research before disin' someone - the loss of quality and deformations come from a high level of JPEG compression (lossy algortihm) and do not mean that the pic has been rigged. I'm quite glad your C566 is running that quickly, but Dr.t's achievement is just as good.

[Brydon]

You got a point alpha..as for the 600@900 it was on an apollo 133 first generation and I am about to go out and see if I can get one that has the via apollo 133a chipset on it so wish me luck trying to find one on a Sunday.

[Konan555]

I hope that "get your facts right" wasn't aimed at me. I'm well aware that the poor image quality is caused by the Jpeg'ing, I was pointing out the dodgey PR rateings (which may be a bug in snadra).

[supercooled]

alpha, my pictures are also in jpeg compressed format and look good. His benches arent right for that speed which caused my attention.

[Konan555]

JPEG has a veriable level of compression. Photoshop offers 1-10 (DR.T's being 1) - Paintshop offers 1-100 (1 being 8 blocks on a screen 100 being near BMP)