PIII-500 well overclocked

[gatt]

Motherboard MS-6163VA ATX VIA chipset,
128MByte RAM (probably 7-8ns),
PIII-500MHz OEM.

I realized I had a beta-bios when I checked and downloaded the proper one from:

http://www.msi.com.tw/technical/Bios/bios_inside.htm

Put the voltage at 2,0, the mult at 5x100 and the CPU freq at 112. No probs at all at 560MHz. Now testing at 620MHz. No particular fan on my CPU. Waiting for the double fan from TENNMAX tho.

Best regards, and dont forget to check bios updates!

-gatt-

[Roy]

The MSI-6163 has been a sleeper board. I've been an Abit fan (BX6, BX6-2) but when my Intel LX (w/sound) gave me a second round of headaches, I ordered the MSI with sound. It's not here yet but in the interim I've been finding more good reviews. Discovering that BXBoards used it to evaluate SDRAM at 143 and 153MHz (the BX6-2 wouldn/t cut it) has me hoping it gets here soon. I think of it as the "BH6-2 plus!".

Thanks for the BIOS tip. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Roy (edited 06-21-99).]

[Comtech]

PIII 500 @ 665. FSB @ 133, sys at 100.

[gatt]

Comtech,
I'm waiting for a new 128Mbyte SIMM, a P133 HSDRAM. When I'll get it I'm sure I'll break the 650 limit as well http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Regards,
-gatt-

[Comtech]

That, and a Peltier cooler and/or a Kryotech case. You won't get this without serious cooling, as the heat is enough to make an omelette.

[gatt]

Well, I've got a TENNMAX heat-sink with double fan. My OEM PIII-500 is almost naked as well, no chassis. Is it enuff tu run at 620MHz (i.e. 124x5) ? Now, at 560, the heatsink near the CPU is not hot.
Anyway, I'll monitor the temp. Thank you,
-gatt-

[Roy]

Comtech ~ What kind of motherboard lets you run the system at a different speed than the FSB?

[Comtech]

Pick one. I happened to use a FIC, an ASUS, an A-Bit, and a Matsonic! System bus is jumper set, FSB is soft menu in BIOS. There's nothing magical about this stuff people, you just need the right combination of CPU, board, and RAM.

[MadMax]

How about giving the model numbers and procedure you are using?

Quote~There's nothing magical about this stuff people, you just need the right combination of CPU, board, and RAM.~Quote

What combination, exactly?

[Scott Evans]

I really like the MSI 6163 over the BH6- more features, better running board.

[Roy]

gatt ~ The MS-6163 uses the Intel 440BX chipset.

Comtech ~ You list 4 boards without model numbers. One is Abit. If it is a BX6 or BH6, there is no jumper for system speed.

Further, to the best of my knowledge, System speed and FSB speed are one in the same.

Please tell us specifically which board allows running the RAM at a speed different from that of the processor.

[MadMax]

Hmmm..., Methinks I shall wait for the pertinent reply for a long, long time.....

[Comtech]

I hate doing everyone elses research for them, but here's one.
Matsonic 7192S slot 1/socket 370 mobo.
System Bus jumpered to 100mhz.
PC 133 SDRAM (128 meg).
Softmenu BIOS set to 133mhz FSB.
Intel PIII

[Roy]

Comtech ~ Thank you for the information. If you do not like to divulge information about your assertions, please don't think of it as doing my research for me.

Given the Matsonic part number, I went straight to their site. I was not able to find information confirming your statements. There was no technical link for the board, only the basic advertising. Matsonic may have been around longer than I have, but you are the first to bring them to my attention. And at that, they came up short.

Can you send me to any other specific part number that provides a clear explanation of system speed being different from FSB?

[Nathan G.]

I think he is talking about 66 versus 100 Mhz FSB setting as a jumper on MB ( Pin B21 on slot 1 edge connector )Thats old news bud!
here is a review of MB... thanks to MotoRacer @ TheTechzone!Note :nothing special about FSB versus system buss noted in review!!
thetechzone.com/msi_6163.htm (http://thetechzone.com/msi_6163.htm)
to the person who said:
"i hate doing everyone elses research for them"
why would you say such a thing? I think sharing knowledge is what this site is about? dont you?
Take it easy
Nathan G.




[This message has been edited by Nathan G. (edited 06-26-99).]

[Nathan G.]

and here is a link to the manual for7192S MB..
http://www.matsonic.com/Manual/ms7192s.pdf
Again no mention of seperate buss rate. JP4 on page 13 has FSB setup. I dont mind doing the research! hehe

[This message has been edited by Nathan G. (edited 06-26-99).]

[Roy]

Nathan ~ As expected ... 10Q.

[MadMax]

Roy and NathanG~Same results I found. I even called a Matsonic dealer and spoke to their tech support. They confirm NathanG.

Funny that the only response was an unpopular mobo with poor documentation. "Pick one" doesn't exactly foot the bill.

[gatt]

Roy,

my 6163 mobo has the VIA chipset not the 440BX. The VIA has a specific bios as well.
If you look for a fast and very overclock-able mobo take a MS-6163.

Regards,
-gatt-

[juicced]

Comtech...
what kind of cooling are you using for 665mhz ?!! Are you running with L2 cache on ?
665 is pretty good considering the core is really maxing out at 600...

[Comtech]

Sorry about the comment "doing other's research", it's just that my mailbox is clogged every day, and my phone rings constantly with requests for what motherboard, what processor, what RAM to buy.
Everyone has a preference.

Re the Matsonic 7192s mobo.
Generally I would not recommend this board. It does work, and is somewhat configurable. The soft BIOS works good, although the temp sensors are only readable in the BIOS. There's no software to read the temp in windows.
Set jumper J4 to 66mhz or 100mhz as per the instructions for your processor.
Enter the BIOS, and set the FSB as high as you dare with the multiplier set at spec for the processor.
Cooling consists of a Kryotech case.
Thankyou skeptics for questioning this. Makes everyone think. I'd prefer to help others by making them do a little thinking for themselves, rather than answer everyone with complete specifics. We all can learn more by doing than reading about it.