Annoyed? YES!

[richamies]

Following on from a post in the overclocking forum, and my still using Win95, I decided to u/g to 98. "No big deal" I thought. Hehehe yeh right! W98 install hangs half way through, reboot to find Windows won't load, no matter what I try. Time to panic, no dial up networking settings, ICQ numbers or anything written down in case of something like this.Oh dear oh dear.....
Get my lovely Win95 OSR2 cdrom out of the drawer to find a nice big scratch down it. Time to panic, as my 98 cd is an upgrade.

Hum.

Start tinking there might be enough of windows on there to fool Win98 into doing an upgrade. YES! Success! Half way through the install, it hangs.

Hum.

Not a happy bunny. Not one little bit.

Out comes Win 2000 beta 3. As much as i hate it this might be my last resort. Fire it up, kill my partitions, make a load of new NTFS partitions. Sit here for about half an hour formatting and checking bloody partitions. OK, we might be getting somewhere....

Crash halfway through install. Locked solid, hit the reset switch......

Drop CPU speed back down to 400. HA! No bloody excuses this time. Start again, reformat just to make sure nothing can go wrong this time. Sit here FOREVER while Windows copies its huge array of files over............again......... reboot system time...looking good...

Error Loading Operating System

Oh poo. Poo Poo Poo
(to put it mildly)

Hum(again)

VERY unhappy bunny, it was about 4.45am by the time this happened...and I'm getting rather tired after not sleeping at all tonight, and getting 3 hours sleep last night.

Try booting up off a floppy.............to find my floppy drive has died..oh bummer....

Now I'm in a right picvle....hehehe

What do I do now? I'm stuck like anything here, its 5.30am and I got work in like 3 hours or something....please...

Someone shout me the magic words to get it all working, I have been demoted to my trusty P100 again and I miss my nice shiny system....

What am I doing wrong with Win2000? I can't for the life of me work it out....

Please take pity and save me from passing my machine over to Gene and giving him some money for some shotgun cartridges...

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif

[Dave_H]

Why does it take Gene 2 shotgun shells?

Sorry Richamies,
I really feel bad for you, wish I could help.
Maybe you should get some sleep and face this challange later today.
Dave

[richamies]

Currently punching my screwy win95 cd is helping keep me awake http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

Things just started looking up - touch wood. Did a format for Fat32 and an install on that, pc just rebooted and asked me to select operating system....
ummmmm...
Who's gonna tell it there is only one to choose from? http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

[Dave_H]

Go Rich Go! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Think a nice thought about Bill Gates.
(couldn't hurt)

[richamies]

Birds just started tweeting...opened can of beer(YAY!)

Bill Gates can go bite a spiders **** I aint ever ever sticking up for him again.

[daveleau]

Talk to it and caress it. It'll love you for it. Good luck. Is it possible there are bad sectors on the drive that were'nt in use before? just a thought.
Dave

[OuTpaTienT]

Where does the install hang at?

I forget exactly where, but Win95 and Win98 always hang while installing on my system. Well, I thought they did. One night, extremely fed up, when it froze during the install I just said f it and started to take a nap. About 13-15 minutes later, I hear my hard drive it active again. huh? Sure enough, the install was continuing. Wierd, very wierd.

I've reinstalled a few times since then, and every time it hangs in the same spot. And every time it'll continue after about 15 minutes.

Why it does this I don't know. I just chaulk it up in the "don't ask, don't tell" column.

[richamies]

Good idea...if there is I will be using FDUT and hiding them forever....

Secrets you learn whilst working with IBM stuff hehehe

Ooooppps

No copy of FDUT - was on hard drive http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif never mind I'll have a good look out tomorrow see whats going on in here.

Thanks Dave another good idea!!

[richamies]

Outpatient - was hung completely, locked solid. Gave it 30 mins one time, it's never hung on here before. Win98SE is PANTS that CD's gonne be smashed soon too....

Just as soon as I see Win2k is working fine.

ALL of my Windows CD's are gonna suffer a slow boring painful death in about 30 mins(fingers crossed)

Do you ever get the feeling everything you touch goes wrong?

Hum.

[socalgal]

Dang, richamies, sorry to hear of your troubles!

I can't offer much help, but you can probably get that scratch off your CD, if it doesn't start up again like OutPatient said..

Toothpaste... http://www.sysopt.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/002001.html

Good luck richamies, we're all rooting for you!

[richamies]

I find Brasso works well on scratched CD's. But I fear no even Toothpaste can help this cd, unless it can hold 6 fragments together.

Hee hee.

PC now up and running with Win2000 Beta 3 build 2031 and looking nice! Smoother than I remembered before(got 96mb now), hopefully it will last for a while till I work out what to do with this infernal machine....

It aint owrth me going to bed now its 6.22am I got to be on site at 8.45 so I'll stop up and work out how to convert it to NTFS, then start clocking her back up.

Thanks peeps you really cheered me up, sorry if I pi**ed any of you off with my comments but I was really angry to start with, am real angry still I guess, I loved Win95 it was the best!

Never mind....

[Dave_H]

Glad you got it working! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
You did that quicker than I ever could.
Have a nice day http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Dave

[richamies]

All is working fine now, connected through an un-clocked machine though. will look into it a little deeper later on today, if I can keep my eyes open http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif.

Thanks all of you - sometimes it can be good just to tell people whats happening, even though they can't offer any suggestions, if you know what I mean. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/biggrin.gif

[U-96]

running with Win2000 Beta 3 build 2031 and looking nice....All is working fine now...


Get some sleep man, you are quite obviously hallucinating. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

U-96

PS gratz, I would have given up a lot sooner!

[richamies]

Get some sleep? I'm at work for another 8 hours LMAO!!!

[Axel]

My best advice is not to touch it for 2 days. Leave it be and stick to your p100 while we hash out a best plan of action for you.

At this point, I'm betting your password files and such are a memory.

I'd recommend removing the HD's you currently have in the system and go buy a used 2.1GB drive - fdisk it, format it, and then settle on which OS you want to go for.

When you're out buying the drive, you might ask if they have a copy of win95 with a certificate laying around just in case you decide you don't like the win2000 beta. ( you think you've got conflicts and bugs now - wait - MS beta's are evil )

Then - install the reformatted drive which you don't care too much about and slave the old HD's to it. Perhaps norton undelete can revive some of your old data files. Stranger things have happened.

But - definitely don't work on your "baby" until you've had a good solid 6 hours of sleep. Your system will thank you and your fingers will thank you as you will not be ripping out components in a sleepy frustrated haze. "Voice of experience" talking here - but then which of us haven't been there, right http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

[richamies]

Thanks Axel, your words are more than welcomed. The system has been running for about 12 hours now, on W2k Beta 3 and is seemingly running smooth as silk. I did have to drop he rspeed down to 500, but whats a little sacrifice like that every now and then eh?
I'm not overly concerned about the password status of thing as yet, I know pretty much all of my passwords and user id's. The data on my hard drives is just a distant memory though, not neccessarily such a bad thing. I used to do a reinstall probably once every three months anyway, just to give it a little clean up.
The "crash" doesnt *really* bother me that much, it was my own fault for trying to upgrade to Win 98 when I know I have more than enough different versions of programs on here to confuse Big_Bad_Bill himself, let alone his "dumb" OS(meaning old OS). I always loved Win95, especially the later releases. They really are fast as anything on these modern machines, and utterly stable, if you get a decent late version and don't try anything too wobbly with it. I would regularly go for a month when I had my P100 before even thinking about a restart, god knows how many times I rebooted since I got the new machine, I tend to install and de-install a few times just to work out what I want on my system.

Maybe this was the break I have needed. I ran W2k on the p100 for a couple of months last August/September, and found her quite nice but incredibly sluggish compared to my trusty win95. I tried W2k on this beast for a while, but it was sooooo much slower than W95 I had to go back to it. Since then I've taken her up to 96mb and that has made an enormous difference to her, it really has. boot up time is still a bit of a drag, but like I say that will hopefully only be happening once in a blue moon. Its now about 12-13 hours since the reinstall completed, and she has only been rebooted once, and that was for the swapfile settings.

Maybe Micro$oft could have gotten it right this time.......just maybe.. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

Thanks all of you for your support, ideas and general "cheerieness", they all help but I know if I can't find answers on here I can always find the lovely happy spirit and trust me, sometimes that is better than answers. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/biggrin.gif


Again..........Thanks a bunch, including all those that emailed me regarding this.

*EDIT*
The only real problems during the install were :

1.Very tired operator http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
2.Very annoyed operator http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
3.Very angry operator http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
4.Why isnt Win2k able to reboot when it is installed on NTFS partitions? I'm thinking it might have just been me, or it might have needed a Fat32 partition for the botloader. Anywayz I just instaled onto Fat32 and she worked fine, then swapped her over to NTFS after the install had gone smoothly. Picked up all cards first time round, never had to install a driver disk.

She didn't get a single think wrong apart from the first 2 installs of her(W2k), and that was just the boot up probs.

Carry on like this Microsoft and I might actually consider paying you for the OS that with a fresh install takes up more hard drive space than I have physical memory, that is something I will just have to get used to I suppose.

Thanks again, everyone http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif http://www.sysopt.com/forum/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by richamies (edited 01-11-2000).]