200 MMX pentium vs. 233 MMX pentium???

[Sweeper]

Is there a difference in the two chips?
Have a 200 MMX Pentium. Is there a difference in the 200 and 233 MMX chips other than the 33 MHZ difference? Would it be worth it to get the 233?
system:
GA-586TX2 MB
96 megs PC-100 SDRAM
ATI Expert 128 PCI
4.3 Seagate HD
200 MMX pentium

[jman01pa]

Performance wise no! If there its a great deal then why not.

How much you paying? You may be a ble to get a motherboard 450 mhz cpu and memory for around the same and keep the rest of your stuff.

J http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by jman01pa (edited 01-02-2000).]

[grandslammer]

Sweeper, if I were you (I know I'm not...) I'd get an AMD K62/450 for like 45 bucks! Same socket design. Just pop out your processor, and pop in the amd. Badda Boom, Badda Bing! You won't believe the difference!

Worst thing you MAY have to do is flash your bios. Maybe, maybe not... But for 45 bucks plus shipping, you can't possibly go wrong...

But, if you just have someone willing to trade you a 233, or they owe you money orsomething, then get it. Run your fsb speed at 75mhz. That'll give you 262mhz. Make sure your ram is set to run at fsb speed instead of agp speed. That's important for performance!(you said you had pc100) This will give you quite a boost over 200mmx!

But either way, you should be able to notice a performance gain. Especially in games.


Good Luck In All..

Mike P.

[Sweeper]

Motherboard will only go up to 233 MHz. This is a Socket 7 MB. Will only support a K6/233.
What the manual says? I can get a 233 for $41 dollars. I was just courious what the difference was between the 200 and 233. Figured there was some sort of boost or gain other then the 33 MHz.

[Andy_L]

The only difference between the 200 and 233 is really just 33 Mhz, I don't think you would see any difference between the two, we have a lot of machines running 166, 200 and 233 at work and if you don't see the speed at bootup you would never notice any difference, my advice is put the money towards memory or a Voodoo 2 card. Also, have you tried clocking your 200 at 233? A lot of 200s will run at 233.

[CMonster]

You can put an AMD K6-2 on most older boards and set the multiplier to 2X which acts as a 6X multiplier to the chip (this is something AMD did intentionally). So you can run it at 396 (IOW 400mhz). If you set the FSB to 75mhz then 450 is possible. I bought a K6-2 350 and overclocked to 400mhz in this way on my daughter's system.

The real question is core voltage support, and BIOS detection with some proprietory systems (Aptiva, Compaq, etc). The required core voltage for the K6-2 is 2.2 to 2.4 volts BUT they can safely be run up to 2.6 with sufficient cooling. My daughter's motherboard had 2.8v as the lowest possible core voltage setting, but I used a large comercial fan/heat sink combination and the thing seems to work just fine at 2.8v core. I could not get 450 due to the hard disk not liking the faster bus speed, so for $39 I sticking to a mere 400mhz. I would not recommend trying to exceed 2.8volts, and if your board supports lower core settings it would be wise to start with those.

[This message has been edited by CMonster (edited 01-02-2000).]

[Brian48]

You'll only see a slight performance gain with the 233. It won't be much, but it'll be there and in some apps or games, the gain may be more apparent. See if you can get the date of manufacture on the P200MMX. If it's a pre-August '97 specimen, keep that instead of the P233MMX. Prior to that date, Intel processors were not clock-locked or clock-limted. I have yet to see a P200 not be able to run at a full 233mhz completely stable with no additional cooling necessary. My own OEM P200MMX, which I've since given to my brother, has been running at 233mhz for nearly two years now. With a proper heatsink, even 266mhz is possible provided your other peripherals can handle the 75mhz bus speed.

[This message has been edited by Brian48 (edited 01-02-2000).]

[Sweeper]

Well, I tried the 200 at 233 but it just posted back at 200. If anyone is interested here's the MB specs: http://www.passau1.de/mediatec/boards/GA586TX2.html

[daveleau]

Yeah that mobo is not on the list of supported boards for the 350 or 400 K6-2 and the specs only list the K6 which I wouldn't recommend. I would get a new mobo and processor if you want to upgrade. 33MHz isn't an upgrade in my book. You can get a mobo/cpu bundle from www.pricewatch.com (http://www.pricewatch.com) for $106. If you want a better mobo it would cost at least $116 for an FIC VA503+. It's even AT so you could use the same case.
Dave

[kongkong]

if you can stand the slow speed of 233, you can tolerate 200. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

and, under most situations, you should be able to oc your cpu to 3x75 (225).