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rip_1956
07-07-2010, 07:38 PM
My PC started hanging randomly during the last week or so. After an afternoon of troubleshooting, I found that when any USB devices are inserted other than the USB mouse, the PC powers off after a second or two. I discovered this after disconnecting both hard drives and reconnecting them one at a time then rebooting. I had puppy linux running during this, and had the windows partition mounted, and when I inserted a flash drive to copy off some windows files it died. Hmmm...

Here's some specs:

Mobo: Biostar GeForce6100-M9
PSU: Thermaltake TR2-430W
CPU Athlon 64 3400+
OS: PCLinuxOS 2009 and Windows XP Pro SP3

The OS does not matter, the problem occurs during boot-up if I insert a flash drive or external USB hub. It does the same thing on 3 or 4 Linux live CDs such as systemrescuecd. They will start up and run until I plug in another USB device.

I think it may be a mobo issue, I trust the PSU brand more than the mobo brand.

Is there some way to troubleshoot further?

Train
07-07-2010, 08:25 PM
I would swap out the power supply to a larger one and see what happens.

Just info.

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PC Chips
ECS
These aren't the bottom of the barrel; they'd have to improve greatly to achieve that status. Their failure rates are obscene.

rip_1956
07-08-2010, 09:13 PM
Swapping a PSU would be an easier fix than swapping out the mobo. But this PC does not have much of a power requirement. No vidcard (onboard video only), 1 IDE HD, 1 SATA HD, 1 IDE dvd-rw, onboard audio, that's about it. And it has been running along for a couple of years in this configuration without any issues.

And how much extra power is needed when a 2gb verbatim flash card is plugged in? Especially now that my IDE HD is disconnected (taking no power) and the act of plugging in the flash still kills the PC.

rip_1956
07-08-2010, 09:28 PM
Just had a thought.

What about disabling the onboard USB and installing one of those PCI cards that have USB ports?

Like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815104216&cm_re=pci_usb_card-_-15-104-216-_-Product

Just looking for second opinions.
And trying to take the easy (and less expensive) way out ...

Train
07-08-2010, 11:17 PM
I was thinking that the capacitors in the power supply have a little age on them, therefore the ps is not putting out what it needs to.

USB power - 500 mA

rip_1956
07-17-2010, 03:57 PM
Solved.

Thought I would share the outcome

First, I tried my idea about installing an add-on USB card. That did not help.

Next, I swapped PSUs with a 500 watt Thermaltake. That did not work either. The thing would still power off when I inserted the flash drive.

Then I saw that Microcenter had a pretty good deal where you got a Biostar mobo free when you bought an AMD processor. So I grabbed an AMD Athlon II X2 250 and a Biostar A780L mobo for the paltry sum of $62.99.

Pulled the old mobo out, installed the new one, and it is running fine. And it is running on the original Thermaltake TR2-430W PSU, so I saved a few bucks there also.

That should keep my going for a while...