Sysopt problem with Opera

[bruceb]

To the site admins,

Ever since Opera was updated from V9.x to V10.x, I am unable to login into the
Sysopt forums using the Opera Browser. I have tried changing every possible
setting in Opera, clearing all Cookies and anything else I can think of (including
clearing all Temp files on the computer) .. this happens on all my computers
that have Opera 10.x on them, so it is not a computer issue. Your site simply
refuses to acknowledge my legit site login when using Opera 10.x
It works fine with IE8 or Firefox 3.6 .. please see what can be done.

Thanks

[Steve R Jones]

And while using the newest version of Opera the following things happen/don't happen when you try to login:

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[bruceb]

And while using the newest version of Opera the following things happen/don't happen when you try to login:

1): The Login screen comes up as normal, but refuses to accept my login credentials.

2): I cleared all cookies and have all browsers set to clear cookies and history on exit

3): I have all security protocols enabled

4): This problem has been happening on all my computers with XP Home or XP Pro with
SP3 since Opera went to Version 10.x

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[Steve R Jones]

I searched the word: Opera here in the feedback forum and found your other thread on this same subject:
http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204595&highlight=opera


Go here first and try to login:
http://www.sysopt.com/
(both the username and password are case sensitive here)

[bruceb]

I searched the word: Opera here in the feedback forum and found your other thread on this same subject:
http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204595&highlight=opera


Go here first and try to login:
http://www.sysopt.com/
(both the username and password are case sensitive here)


Steve,

It works ok from the http://www.sysopt.com/ .. login page

It does not work from: http://www.sysopt.com/forum/index.php?

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/login.php?do=login

[Steve R Jones]

So problem solved - you're now logged in via Opera?

[bruceb]

Only if I login thru the main page and not from the login box
on the Forums Index page. Which works fine on all my other
web browsers (IE8 & Firefox) and it used to work properly
in Opera 9 ... so either Opera has a problem they won't admit to
or the Sysopt Forum Login page needs just a little recoding to
work with Opera 10.x

Easy way to tell is for you to try Opera 10.x yourself and see if
the same issue occurs. Then someone can figure out what to change.

[Steve R Jones]

Short version of the story - SysOpt is different then all of its sister sites regarding logging in. If you "have to" log in from the Home page then...there ya go.

[bruceb]

That is a work around, not a fix. And since it used to work with Opera 9
it should still work ok with Opera 10

[Train]

Or 10 has some changes that needs reporting. Back to the opera writers.

[bruceb]

Possible. But I did report it to Opera when V10.x first came out.
Naturally, they did not check or do anything about it except to
point the finger at you guys, since it is only this one site with an issue.
That is known of. Perhaps you can check the coding for the 2 login
pages. Compare what is used on the Main Page, with what is used
for the Forum Login page ... links above ... odds are, they are just
a tiny bit different.

[t34b4g5]

happens on a few other Quinn St owned forums also. http://forums.practicallynetworked.com / http://forums.serverwatch.com

i find if i spoof the user-agent string to FF or ie then things seem to work fine.

[bruceb]

I am glad to know I am not the only one seeing this problem. I had thought it was something in my settings, now I know my systems are ok. What do you mean by spoof the user-agent string ? ?

Opera, while not bad, will not be my primary choice until there is an easy way like Ad-Block for Opera) to control ads in that browser. They say there are a couple of methods, but just like the ones in IE8 or IE7 Pro, they either do not work or are extremely hard to get to work. AdBlock Plus in Firefox works and is simple to configure for a specific site.

[JPnyc]

I'm not sure this is something we would be able to fix, since it's only happening with an updated version of one browser, and apparently only either on your machine, or just Windows XP, since I just successfully logged in with the latest version of Opera using the forum login, with Windows 7.

[bruceb]

happens on a few other Quinn St owned forums also. http://forums.practicallynetworked.com / http://forums.serverwatch.com

i find if i spoof the user-agent string to FF or ie then things seem to work fine.

It is not only on my pc or OS . see the post above by t3b4g5 ... it also occurs on other forums owned or administered by the Quinn. Seems like just a simple coding error. All you should need to do is compare the Login Code on the main page (which does work in Opera 10) with the Login Code on the Forum Login Page ... the error should be easy to spot and correct.

[Steve R Jones]

But why does it not happen for JPnyc - and would this code change make things worse for him?

Does Opera have a re-set all button like IE does?

[JPnyc]

There are no changes to the login script on those forums. Those are standard vBulletin installations, far and away the most popular forum software in use on the web. The fault must lie with opera, since it only occurs in that browser and more so, only since the latest update. If you want to report it to vBulletin, that might be one option.

[JPnyc]

I just successfully logged into both of those forums on the first attempt using:

Version
10.10

Build
1893 of opera.

I think it's far more likely that there's an old cookie causing this. Try dumping all cookies and offline content.

[JPnyc]

happens on a few other Quinn St owned forums also. http://forums.practicallynetworked.com / http://forums.serverwatch.com

i find if i spoof the user-agent string to FF or ie then things seem to work fine.
Kris, what OS are you on?

[bruceb]

I wish I knew the answer. As to cookies, I set all my browers to Clear All Cookies on exit and also to Clear Browsing History on exit. Also not to use Cached pages when going from page to page or site to site.

[JPnyc]

Well if he is also on XP, then it might be safe to assume it has something to do with the latest version on XP. If not then I would have to speculate it had something to do with an add on or setting.

[t34b4g5]

WinXP. I do the login on the forums index page, it shows the redirect message thanks for logging in, then the other login page appears.

Have to re-enter login stuff.

By the looks of it is not storing session cookie correctly, it is getting it from new session login just not acceptin it as valid.

Go into advanced config and manually add the sysopt url into allowed for cookies offline storage etc.

Also personally ive always disliked opera for numerous reasons maybe tryout a different browser or grab the last stable opera build,

It was more of a case of me installing to help solve the issue.

Sidenote under the latest build od debian i tried also and got issue, i downgraded back to previous build and it was fine, i am also posting this reply via my cell phone usin the previous v of opera mini. YIKES!

[JPnyc]

I wonder if it's adopted the known IE issue that's been occurring. When that happens, instead of logging in again, just refresh the page, see if you are then logged in. If so, then it's exhibiting the same behavior that IE has on those sites.

[t34b4g5]

Joe, refresh doesnt work, the previous stable ver works, so id say this new ver is the cause.

[t34b4g5]

The latest vbuletin 4.* also has some rendering issues under the 10.50 v of opera also. Not to mention ie8 but for some odd reason ie7 still is the perfect browser. :)

[JPnyc]

That's odd, because I've seen the code and they actually do check for opera. They make some special coding provisions for it in the CSS, so they do at least attempt to support it.

[t34b4g5]

That's odd, because I've seen the code and they actually do check for opera. They make some special coding provisions for it in the CSS, so they do at least attempt to support it.

there ajax don't play nicely under Opera / ie8 :mad:

[JPnyc]

I'm using IE 8 and I don't see much problem. I will admit their Ajax functions are very fragile; easily broken.