TerryFox
05-05-2008, 09:01 AM
Hi ... If I was thinking of getting an 64 bit OS , What do I need to have to able to load this type of OS ? Which hardware parts do I need to have ? Thanks
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Sterling_Aug
05-05-2008, 09:54 AM
You need to have a 64bit mobo, processor, and RAM.
Sounds like your best bet is to buy a prebuilt system such as a Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc.
Sounds like your best bet is to buy a prebuilt system such as a Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc.
TerryFox
05-05-2008, 03:59 PM
Sounds like your best bet is to buy a prebuilt system such as a Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc.
No , never will I get one of them , I only like custom . I didn't think ram to . I know my MB is ok . I have to check out my cpu .
Thanks
No , never will I get one of them , I only like custom . I didn't think ram to . I know my MB is ok . I have to check out my cpu .
Thanks
BipolarBill
05-05-2008, 04:49 PM
Actually, any system with a 64-bit capable CPU will work fine since you can't have that without a matching motherboard. RAM is RAM is RAM - unless it's registered.
TerryFox
05-05-2008, 11:32 PM
Actually, any system with a 64-bit capable CPU will work fine since you can't have that without a matching motherboard. RAM is RAM is RAM - unless it's registered.
Yeah, that was my thoughts to but I figure to ask to be sure . I don't recall when buying Ram anywhere ( specs ) mention for which bit .
Yeah, that was my thoughts to but I figure to ask to be sure . I don't recall when buying Ram anywhere ( specs ) mention for which bit .
Sterling_Aug
05-06-2008, 08:15 AM
RAM specs do ot mention the bit length because it is matched to the mobo.
The mobo can be run at 32 bits or 64 bits depending on the design of the CPU installed and the options on the mobo.
The mobo can be run at 32 bits or 64 bits depending on the design of the CPU installed and the options on the mobo.
TerryFox
05-06-2008, 06:11 PM
RAM specs do ot mention the bit length because it is matched to the mobo.
The mobo can be run at 32 bits or 64 bits depending on the design of the CPU installed and the options on the mobo.
Hi , Can you post a pic which show this ? This way I can remember to look for it , Thanks
The mobo can be run at 32 bits or 64 bits depending on the design of the CPU installed and the options on the mobo.
Hi , Can you post a pic which show this ? This way I can remember to look for it , Thanks
Midknyte
05-06-2008, 06:27 PM
I think you're getting confused with 64-bit operating system and 64-bit memory bus. two completely different things.
it's not an option you can change; it's the chipset/cpu you use. all you really need to know is what type and speed of ram like DDR2 and PC5300
it's not an option you can change; it's the chipset/cpu you use. all you really need to know is what type and speed of ram like DDR2 and PC5300
TerryFox
05-06-2008, 10:28 PM
I think you're getting confused with 64-bit operating system and 64-bit memory bus. two completely different things.
it's not an option you can change; it's the chipset/cpu you use. all you really need to know is what type and speed of ram like DDR2 and PC5300
So basically it boils down to the MB / CPU . If you can get the following in 64 bits , chipset , graphic , net card and audio , all else should work , correct ? I mean which matches to the MB .
it's not an option you can change; it's the chipset/cpu you use. all you really need to know is what type and speed of ram like DDR2 and PC5300
So basically it boils down to the MB / CPU . If you can get the following in 64 bits , chipset , graphic , net card and audio , all else should work , correct ? I mean which matches to the MB .
Midknyte
05-06-2008, 11:08 PM
if you meant 64 bit drivers, then video, audio, and lan should work.
Why are you installing a 64 bit OS anyway?
Why are you installing a 64 bit OS anyway?
Sterling_Aug
05-07-2008, 08:26 AM
Are you a computer technician trying to learn about a 64 bit OS or is there another reason you think you need a 64 bit OS?
I have two system running X64 and one system running Windows 2003 Server Compute Cluster Edition 64 bit.
99.999% of home users do not need, nor will you see a benefit to running a 64 bit OS. Driver support is limited (but getting better), application support is limited (but getting updated all the time), and technical support is also improving.
I have two system running X64 and one system running Windows 2003 Server Compute Cluster Edition 64 bit.
99.999% of home users do not need, nor will you see a benefit to running a 64 bit OS. Driver support is limited (but getting better), application support is limited (but getting updated all the time), and technical support is also improving.
TerryFox
05-07-2008, 09:02 PM
They say this type is going to be the future style . For me its more curiosity than anything , I'm staying 32bits for now .
pandaz3
05-08-2008, 12:06 AM
I have one XP64, two Vista Home Premium 64, one Vista Ultimate 64, and one using 64 bit Ubuntu.
I like 64 bit and have no driver issues.
I like 64 bit and have no driver issues.
_Mystical_Night
05-08-2008, 12:19 AM
Vista 64 also consumes more CPU and memory then the 32-bit version. If you have 4gb+ of ram however and a decent CPU it might be worth it for the extra security and speed
check out my ram and cpu usage with vista 64 on idle (just normal stuff running)
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7001/desktopyd9.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktopyd9.jpg)
check out my ram and cpu usage with vista 64 on idle (just normal stuff running)
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7001/desktopyd9.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktopyd9.jpg)
pandaz3
05-08-2008, 01:03 AM
The two Vista HP 64 machines are on 2 gigs and the Ultimate 4 gigs. The single core 4000+ does run a tad slower with it's old DDR and slower CPU, I have no problems with it though and the others are faster mainly as they have a 5000 and 6400. Every new OS by Microsoft increased the bloat and used more resources. XP64 is a lean mean fighting machine.
Roadhog
06-07-2008, 12:12 AM
I have one XP64, two Vista Home Premium 64, one Vista Ultimate 64, and one using 64 bit Ubuntu.
I like 64 bit and have no driver issues.
That xp64...I am curious...is there much performance improvement over xp32 bit..and by that...seat of the pants...does it feel faster??
The 64 bit should take advantage of more memory correct (I have read xp32 only sees like 4 megs (including the memory on your video card).
As far as gaming...any problems running on 64bit...or any games take advantage of 64 bit)...I was thinking of giving it a try myself..
I like 64 bit and have no driver issues.
That xp64...I am curious...is there much performance improvement over xp32 bit..and by that...seat of the pants...does it feel faster??
The 64 bit should take advantage of more memory correct (I have read xp32 only sees like 4 megs (including the memory on your video card).
As far as gaming...any problems running on 64bit...or any games take advantage of 64 bit)...I was thinking of giving it a try myself..
BipolarBill
06-07-2008, 05:40 AM
It's actually a bit slower for the same RAM. You will need to double your RAM to maintain performance at first, but it can handle a LOT more.
As far as applications go, most 32-bit apps will work fine - including games.
The real problems erupt with hardware. Any device that you add must have 64-bit drivers. This is a real challenge with older devices.
As far as applications go, most 32-bit apps will work fine - including games.
The real problems erupt with hardware. Any device that you add must have 64-bit drivers. This is a real challenge with older devices.
Midknyte
06-07-2008, 06:40 PM
32bit applications run in WoW on xp64. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WOW64
I wouldn't say that apps would run faster, since they would probably be limited by the 2GB address limit. Unless the app was specifically written for 64-bit, the additional ram won't do jack.
For gaming, video card drivers are crucial. the focus is still on xp32 or vista.
I wouldn't say that apps would run faster, since they would probably be limited by the 2GB address limit. Unless the app was specifically written for 64-bit, the additional ram won't do jack.
For gaming, video card drivers are crucial. the focus is still on xp32 or vista.
pandaz3
06-08-2008, 12:16 PM
That xp64...I am curious...is there much performance improvement over xp32 bit..and by that...seat of the pants...does it feel faster??
The 64 bit should take advantage of more memory correct (I have read xp32 only sees like 4 megs (including the memory on your video card).
As far as gaming...any problems running on 64bit...or any games take advantage of 64 bit)...I was thinking of giving it a try myself..
Well I personally believe XP64 to be faster, seems snappier, cleaner. BPB might not like it but I do. Mine is in a 939 rig Abit Fatal1ty AN8, 185 Opty, 2 X 1 (2 gig total) Corsair PC3200C2, X1950 XT, a 320 Seagate....
I like it, I have SP2. I was going to buy a new copy but it was not in stock and 64 bit Vista was available cheaper. I had tried beta versions of Vista and not cared for them but MS seems to give better support to 64 bit these days.
I think XP64 is great, it was derived from Server 2003. I did have 32 bit XP on that computer before XP64. I did a low level format and then a clean install of XP64. To me it is noticeably faster even though this install has been on this computer foe a year and a half or more.
Right now I will say XP64 to be faster than Vista Ultimate 64.... but Vista 64 is the future
Still a lot of foot dragging by software vendors as 90% or more of systems are still 32 bit. That is changing. I see several laptops now with Vista 64.
Just my opinion.... ;)
The 64 bit should take advantage of more memory correct (I have read xp32 only sees like 4 megs (including the memory on your video card).
As far as gaming...any problems running on 64bit...or any games take advantage of 64 bit)...I was thinking of giving it a try myself..
Well I personally believe XP64 to be faster, seems snappier, cleaner. BPB might not like it but I do. Mine is in a 939 rig Abit Fatal1ty AN8, 185 Opty, 2 X 1 (2 gig total) Corsair PC3200C2, X1950 XT, a 320 Seagate....
I like it, I have SP2. I was going to buy a new copy but it was not in stock and 64 bit Vista was available cheaper. I had tried beta versions of Vista and not cared for them but MS seems to give better support to 64 bit these days.
I think XP64 is great, it was derived from Server 2003. I did have 32 bit XP on that computer before XP64. I did a low level format and then a clean install of XP64. To me it is noticeably faster even though this install has been on this computer foe a year and a half or more.
Right now I will say XP64 to be faster than Vista Ultimate 64.... but Vista 64 is the future
Still a lot of foot dragging by software vendors as 90% or more of systems are still 32 bit. That is changing. I see several laptops now with Vista 64.
Just my opinion.... ;)
BipolarBill
06-08-2008, 02:49 PM
I never said that I didn't like it. It's just that I have a ton of older working hardware and I'd rather not do the whole driver search thing.
64-bit computing is the inevitable future for all of us, but it doesn't have to be right now. ;)
64-bit computing is the inevitable future for all of us, but it doesn't have to be right now. ;)
pandaz3
06-08-2008, 03:03 PM
OK ... I sit corrected! I am not using any real legacy parts... though 939 is getting dated.
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