herosrest
04-25-2008, 02:23 PM
Yup good ole boardom stakes here......... righto , what is it? The worlds most valuable commodity.
Bet ya don't know............... :r
Bet ya don't know............... :r
Click to See Complete Forum and Search --> : The worlds most valuable commodity.
mireland
04-25-2008, 02:31 PM
Yup good ole boardom stakes here......... righto , what is it? The worlds most valuable commodity.
Bet ya don't know............... :r
prostitutes?
Bet ya don't know............... :r
prostitutes?
herosrest
04-25-2008, 02:48 PM
An interesting deduction.............. how much are your therapy rates?
mireland
04-25-2008, 03:09 PM
prostitutes?
it's the gift that keeps on giving... :rolleyes:
it's the gift that keeps on giving... :rolleyes:
herosrest
04-25-2008, 03:17 PM
Tax deductable?
mireland
04-25-2008, 03:48 PM
An interesting deduction.............. how much are your therapy rates?
1.99 a minute for the first 5 minutes then .99 cents a minute after that. :t
1.99 a minute for the first 5 minutes then .99 cents a minute after that. :t
mireland
04-25-2008, 03:48 PM
Tax deductable?
ok. :x
ok. :x
herosrest
04-26-2008, 10:05 AM
......... righto , what is it? The worlds most valuable commodity.
Bet ya don't know............... :r
Research............... accurate, reliable, trustworthy and valid research data.
Bet ya don't know............... :r
Research............... accurate, reliable, trustworthy and valid research data.
herosrest
04-26-2008, 10:30 AM
For example........... searching current world oil production data on the marketed search engines throws up useful links to a plethora of sources.
However the data is varied and inconsistent.
Delving and digging the links simply illustrates that no one really knows the truth of the matter. 'Authoratative' and accepted sources are misleading in the detail they provide.
eg
____Figures indicate that total production is increasing. Hoorah.
Unfortunately the numbers include Liquid gas - which is where the actual increasing production is taking place. Try running yer motor on liquid gas. :p Boo.
So the data is misleading - like just about everything in modern day life. Hohum.
However the data is varied and inconsistent.
Delving and digging the links simply illustrates that no one really knows the truth of the matter. 'Authoratative' and accepted sources are misleading in the detail they provide.
eg
____Figures indicate that total production is increasing. Hoorah.
Unfortunately the numbers include Liquid gas - which is where the actual increasing production is taking place. Try running yer motor on liquid gas. :p Boo.
So the data is misleading - like just about everything in modern day life. Hohum.
leprechaun_40
04-26-2008, 01:16 PM
This thread sucks and needs closed
mireland
04-26-2008, 01:51 PM
This thread sucks and needs closed
:t
:t
herosrest
04-26-2008, 02:18 PM
Hey Leppy............ stay on topic will ya. You're ruining the place. :p :t 30,601
mireland
04-26-2008, 02:32 PM
:t
:t
:t
herosrest
04-26-2008, 02:35 PM
Such a friendly chappie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z93vsVyhusI
herosrest
04-27-2008, 05:18 PM
For example........... searching current world oil production data on the marketed search engines throws up useful links to a plethora of sources.
However the data is varied and inconsistent.
Delving and digging the links simply illustrates that no one really knows the truth of the matter. 'Authoratative' and accepted sources are misleading in the detail they provide.
eg
____Figures indicate that total production is increasing. Hoorah.
Unfortunately the numbers include Liquid gas - which is where the actual increasing production is taking place. Try running yer motor on liquid gas. :p Boo.
So the data is misleading - like just about everything in modern day life. Hohum.
Some ten years back Microsoft brought about a revolution. It was Active desktop and Internet Explorer 4, a technology milestone in capability and vision. l drew reference to the keynote events declaring this technology back in '98 '99 in closing posts on a thread here shortly before it was locked down. Ah me - what a world, eh!
Let's hope Mr Balmer goes into a huddle now, with each and everyone of his Microsoft staff and challenges 'them' - to get off their arses and rival Google with some talent, design, insight and plain old simple marketing.
Which is exactly what will have to happen 'with or without' Yahoo! on board.
However the data is varied and inconsistent.
Delving and digging the links simply illustrates that no one really knows the truth of the matter. 'Authoratative' and accepted sources are misleading in the detail they provide.
eg
____Figures indicate that total production is increasing. Hoorah.
Unfortunately the numbers include Liquid gas - which is where the actual increasing production is taking place. Try running yer motor on liquid gas. :p Boo.
So the data is misleading - like just about everything in modern day life. Hohum.
Some ten years back Microsoft brought about a revolution. It was Active desktop and Internet Explorer 4, a technology milestone in capability and vision. l drew reference to the keynote events declaring this technology back in '98 '99 in closing posts on a thread here shortly before it was locked down. Ah me - what a world, eh!
Let's hope Mr Balmer goes into a huddle now, with each and everyone of his Microsoft staff and challenges 'them' - to get off their arses and rival Google with some talent, design, insight and plain old simple marketing.
Which is exactly what will have to happen 'with or without' Yahoo! on board.
Shoreguy
04-27-2008, 08:26 PM
residential trash is my guess. Especially in communities/cities that have recycling programs...all goes to the coffers.
herosrest
04-27-2008, 08:57 PM
l would guess that land values for landfill will be climbing, certainly they are in Europe. Here in UK we are reaching the situation of punitive charging for not recycling household waste.
Once a household accepts that is the way to go there is actually very little adjustment or expense, simply a change in habit.
Everything is discarded as before but sorted at that moment into food, metal, plastic or paper. The change in habit is easy to do but the mindset is harder.
The collection end requires the investment but nothing here was rushed - it is rolling out progressively on a learning curve and works.
Once a household accepts that is the way to go there is actually very little adjustment or expense, simply a change in habit.
Everything is discarded as before but sorted at that moment into food, metal, plastic or paper. The change in habit is easy to do but the mindset is harder.
The collection end requires the investment but nothing here was rushed - it is rolling out progressively on a learning curve and works.
Shoreguy
04-28-2008, 04:37 AM
a simple 'No' would've sufficed. Waste Management is big $$$. May not be the world's most valuable...but the rabble you just spewed forth is neither valuable nor informative towards divulging the answer to your own question. Therefore, you sir are a spammer.
Please, This thread sucks and needs closed
Please, This thread sucks and needs closed
herosrest
04-28-2008, 05:40 AM
Urban Mining Grows as Gold Prices Soar - http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/04/27/urban-mining-grows-as-gold-prices-soar
l did not disagree with you. This isn't a competition and you aren't winning any prizes. Your response re residential trash was provocative and drew response. Both aspects - trash and recycling programs were developed. Further, one might hope that recycle programs actually self finance although profit factors tend to negate that aspect. l suggested there is considerably more to waste management than the profitable aspects such as precious metal recovery.
lt is very often forgotten that profit is simply a tool.
If you consider this spam - so do you.
If you deem it necessary to defend leprechaun_40's honour - choose yer weapons. :D :t
l did not disagree with you. This isn't a competition and you aren't winning any prizes. Your response re residential trash was provocative and drew response. Both aspects - trash and recycling programs were developed. Further, one might hope that recycle programs actually self finance although profit factors tend to negate that aspect. l suggested there is considerably more to waste management than the profitable aspects such as precious metal recovery.
lt is very often forgotten that profit is simply a tool.
If you consider this spam - so do you.
If you deem it necessary to defend leprechaun_40's honour - choose yer weapons. :D :t
lito pospos
05-06-2008, 09:09 AM
Mouth watering garbage , I feel starve to death very time I past bye in my neighbor trash.
herosrest
05-06-2008, 03:24 PM
There's gold in them thar hills.
mobo57
05-06-2008, 04:22 PM
It's a toss up. Could be land. There is finite supply, there is no substitute, we cannot make more, and we need more and more every day.
Could also be time. We never have enough, and we always wish for more. We can't make it, and when we waste it, it's gone forever.
And I've justed wasted 5 minutes of my finite supply. :(
Could also be time. We never have enough, and we always wish for more. We can't make it, and when we waste it, it's gone forever.
And I've justed wasted 5 minutes of my finite supply. :(
mousepotato11
05-07-2008, 11:26 AM
knolage
herosrest
05-08-2008, 01:42 PM
It's a toss up. Could be land. There is finite supply, there is no substitute, we cannot make more, and we need more and more every day.
Could also be time. We never have enough, and we always wish for more. We can't make it, and when we waste it, it's gone forever.
And I've justed wasted 5 minutes of my finite supply. :(
Thankyou. ;) :t
Could also be time. We never have enough, and we always wish for more. We can't make it, and when we waste it, it's gone forever.
And I've justed wasted 5 minutes of my finite supply. :(
Thankyou. ;) :t
herosrest
11-06-2008, 05:27 AM
Yup good ole boardom stakes here......... righto , what is it? The worlds most valuable commodity.
Bet ya don't know............... :r For example........... searching current world oil production data on the marketed search engines throws up useful links to a plethora of sources.
However the data is varied and inconsistent.
Delving and digging the links simply illustrates that no one really knows the truth of the matter. 'Authoratative' and accepted sources are misleading in the detail they provide.
eg ____Figures indicate that total production is increasing. Hoorah.
Unfortunately the numbers include Liquid gas - which is where the actual increasing production is taking place. Try running yer motor on liquid gas. - Boo.
So the data is misleading - like just about everything in modern day life. Hohum.
Microsoft offer in May.$33 a share
Wednesday below $14 a share.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45178000/jpg/_45178157_b532f999-f166-4cf8-9b42-62c6fddf8d20.jpg WANG TUFF..................... :rolleyes: CHEQUE ME OUT! $$ $$ :t
THAT IS LIKE NEARLY $25 BILL'S - YA KNOW. ;) AND IST DIVIDEND RETURN..............
Bet ya don't know............... :r For example........... searching current world oil production data on the marketed search engines throws up useful links to a plethora of sources.
However the data is varied and inconsistent.
Delving and digging the links simply illustrates that no one really knows the truth of the matter. 'Authoratative' and accepted sources are misleading in the detail they provide.
eg ____Figures indicate that total production is increasing. Hoorah.
Unfortunately the numbers include Liquid gas - which is where the actual increasing production is taking place. Try running yer motor on liquid gas. - Boo.
So the data is misleading - like just about everything in modern day life. Hohum.
Microsoft offer in May.$33 a share
Wednesday below $14 a share.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45178000/jpg/_45178157_b532f999-f166-4cf8-9b42-62c6fddf8d20.jpg WANG TUFF..................... :rolleyes: CHEQUE ME OUT! $$ $$ :t
THAT IS LIKE NEARLY $25 BILL'S - YA KNOW. ;) AND IST DIVIDEND RETURN..............
herosrest
11-06-2008, 05:41 AM
A totally personal point.................... Microsoft trying to gobble up Yahoo is insane. Who and whatever is behind the move probably escaped from somewhere very secure. The move is about as insecure as a business decision can be.
Lord Gates is only just out the door and the silverware is being vapourized.
l guess l should qualify the above.
There is no way to get a decent ROI. eos. No way at all.
Yahoo tells Microsoft: 'Buy us' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7712298.stm :rolleyes: :D :D :cool:
Lord Gates is only just out the door and the silverware is being vapourized.
l guess l should qualify the above.
There is no way to get a decent ROI. eos. No way at all.
Yahoo tells Microsoft: 'Buy us' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7712298.stm :rolleyes: :D :D :cool:
herosrest
11-06-2008, 05:58 AM
http://www.macarabia.net/forum/userpix/19_pablo_platypus_tapping_foot_lg_nwm_1.gifhttp://www.macarabia.net/forum/userpix/19_pablo_platypus_tapping_foot_lg_nwm_1.gifhttp://www.macarabia.net/forum/userpix/19_pablo_platypus_tapping_foot_lg_nwm_1.gif
mireland
11-06-2008, 07:45 AM
:rolleyes:
herosrest
12-25-2008, 05:26 AM
04-26-2008, 03:30 PM For example........... searching current world oil production data on the marketed search engines throws up useful links to a plethora of sources.
However the data is varied and inconsistent.
Delving and digging the links simply illustrates that no one really knows the truth of the matter. 'Authoratative' and accepted sources are misleading in the detail they provide.
eg
____Figures indicate that total production is increasing. Hoorah.
Unfortunately the numbers include Liquid gas - which is where the actual increasing production is taking place. Try running yer motor on liquid gas. :p Boo.
So the data is misleading - like just about everything in modern day life. Hohum.
Click (http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-237/0812254571105145.htm)
- - EXTRACT :rolleyes:
- FROM DA GROUND :p
"Major gas exporting countries' agreement on setting up gas OPEC signifies Iran's success in diplomacy, economy and international trade, said rapporteur of Majlis Energy Commission here Wednesday."
http://www.static-ware.com/images/sCoffee-Break.jpg (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ySaHZZhSwXE)COFFEE CHILLER - CLICK DA CUP
However the data is varied and inconsistent.
Delving and digging the links simply illustrates that no one really knows the truth of the matter. 'Authoratative' and accepted sources are misleading in the detail they provide.
eg
____Figures indicate that total production is increasing. Hoorah.
Unfortunately the numbers include Liquid gas - which is where the actual increasing production is taking place. Try running yer motor on liquid gas. :p Boo.
So the data is misleading - like just about everything in modern day life. Hohum.
Click (http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-237/0812254571105145.htm)
- - EXTRACT :rolleyes:
- FROM DA GROUND :p
"Major gas exporting countries' agreement on setting up gas OPEC signifies Iran's success in diplomacy, economy and international trade, said rapporteur of Majlis Energy Commission here Wednesday."
http://www.static-ware.com/images/sCoffee-Break.jpg (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ySaHZZhSwXE)COFFEE CHILLER - CLICK DA CUP
BadDriver
12-25-2008, 09:26 AM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08d12pY9AO9Cy/340x.jpg
j.m@talk
12-25-2008, 09:31 AM
I don't understand brothels to be honest .......... But there yas are :t
BadDriver
12-25-2008, 09:35 AM
I don't understand brothels to be honest .......... But there yas are :t
I don't use 'em myself but the thread is about commodities. They are a proven money maker. ;)
I don't use 'em myself but the thread is about commodities. They are a proven money maker. ;)
mireland
12-25-2008, 09:38 AM
I don't understand brothels to be honest .......... But there yas are :t
I do...:t
I do...:t
BadDriver
12-25-2008, 10:11 AM
I do...:t
We know. :rolleyes:
..................................:D :t
We know. :rolleyes:
..................................:D :t
mireland
12-25-2008, 10:25 AM
We know. :rolleyes:
..................................:D :t
well? why not..not like I got much better to do with my time...
..................................:D :t
well? why not..not like I got much better to do with my time...
BadDriver
12-25-2008, 10:28 AM
well? why not..not like I got much better to do with my time...
LOL. I'll tell you true. When I was a young sailor I bought a couple hookers. I got my rocks off but I felt like carp afterwards. Ya know, I felt bad about it both times.
I figured it just wasn't for me. I ain't got a problem with it, it just ain't my thing. )-|
LOL. I'll tell you true. When I was a young sailor I bought a couple hookers. I got my rocks off but I felt like carp afterwards. Ya know, I felt bad about it both times.
I figured it just wasn't for me. I ain't got a problem with it, it just ain't my thing. )-|
j.m@talk
12-25-2008, 11:09 AM
Its carp ......... & un-necessary........ :t
BadDriver
12-25-2008, 11:17 AM
Its carp ......... & un-necessary........ :t
We agree??? :eek: :eek:
We agree??? :eek: :eek:
j.m@talk
12-25-2008, 11:21 AM
It'll pass :t
BadDriver
12-25-2008, 11:25 AM
Ahhh, maybe not. I am gettin a bit old to stir up much trouble these days.
The only thing I got against you is you drive on the wrong side of the road and talk funny. :mad:
The only thing I got against you is you drive on the wrong side of the road and talk funny. :mad:
j.m@talk
12-25-2008, 11:39 AM
Umm ....... Yeah ya is gettin to be a bit old & we must say it ....... A bit smelly :D
I've just bought a Lappy on line ........ :eek: I dunno when it will turn up .... "If Ever" ..... I dunno how long it will last either ....... Not long I don't suppose ;)
Yeah ok I didn't go mad ...... Just a cheapy refurbed one ........ £250 :D
I've just bought a Lappy on line ........ :eek: I dunno when it will turn up .... "If Ever" ..... I dunno how long it will last either ....... Not long I don't suppose ;)
Yeah ok I didn't go mad ...... Just a cheapy refurbed one ........ £250 :D
mireland
12-25-2008, 11:52 AM
The only thing I got against you is you drive on the wrong side of the road and talk funny. :mad:
that's the only thing you have against him? I'm publishing a book...:D
that's the only thing you have against him? I'm publishing a book...:D
j.m@talk
12-25-2008, 12:56 PM
I'm publishing a book...:D
Acre Head :mad:
Acre Head :mad:
herosrest
12-25-2008, 01:29 PM
I don't understand brothels to be honest .......... But there yas are :t
Think slot machines.
Think slot machines.
mireland
12-25-2008, 01:42 PM
Think slot machines.
and pull tabs...
and pull tabs...
j.m@talk
12-25-2008, 02:03 PM
Err no ...... I'm more thinking depravity, perverts & violence ....... :rolleyes:
mireland
12-25-2008, 02:09 PM
Err no ...... I'm more thinking depravity, perverts & violence ....... :rolleyes:
oh? Xmas? :t
oh? Xmas? :t
herosrest
12-26-2008, 02:20 AM
Some research. Totally useless but interesting stuff that just links in to itself in a beautiful symmetry (http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2008/12/19/stocking-stuffers-for-physicists/) of purpose
http://files.myopera.com/herosrest/albums/30111/486673.pngIn late 1941 the 36th Pursuit Squadron moved to San Francisco, California in preparation for a deployment to the Asian Theater of Operations. The squadron sailed for Brisbane, Australia aboard the SS Mauri on February 12, 1942, a voyage that took 24 days. The squadron trained with P-39s at Lowood, Queenland and later at Antil Plains near Townsville, Australia. On April 20, 1942, the squadron moved to Seven-Mile Drome - CLICK http://www.sysopt.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.redraiders22bg.com/) near Port Moresby (http://books.google.com/books?id=DLz6LJBgYHcC&pg=PA215&lpg=PA215&dq=%2236TH+PURSUIT+SQUADRON%22+%22port+moresby%22+ 1st+april+1942&source=web&ots=s865PCSV7i&sig=BfrgwGLaRUN6BuPOjWmpkeP1XYc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result), New Guinea, which was the last remaining allied stronghold north of Australia. The first contingent flew up in transports on the 26th, and the pilots flew the P-39s up on the 28th. They encountered severe weather and lost 15 planes en route. It was a staggering blow to both Americans and Australians. Another 26 P-39s arrived safely on the 30th. ANECDOTE (http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Lyndon_B._Johnson#World_War_II)
The first combat mission (http://www.acepilots.com/pto/wagner.html) for the 36th PS took place on April (http://www.kensmen.com/apr42.html) 30, 1942. Tasked with a strafing mission at Lae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart) Salamaua, New Guinea (http://www.ameliaearhart.com/), the aircrews encountered 15 to 20 Japanese Zeros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junichi_Sasai). The ensuing dogfight (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/sakai.html) lasted all the way back to Port Moresby. Two pilots of the 36th, Captain Paul G. Brown - CLICK http://www.sysopt.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1246289#post1246289) and Captain James J. Bevlock, were forced to land. Capt. Brown (http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozcrashes/qld134.htm) claimed probable destruction of one Zero. During the entire war, the 36th would lose 56 men (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/people/visitors/mayer/us-dog-tags.html) listed as killed (http://www.ww2f.com/information-requests/20950-p-40-ace-buzz-wagner-disappeared-65-years-ago-today.html) or missing (http://www.puzzleboxpress.com/PB%20Web%20Files/Remembering%20a%20Fallen%20Airman.pdf) in action.
From April through June 1942, more than 300 enemy planes flew sorties over Seven-Mile Drome in an effort to soften Allied defenses and eliminate Allied air power in that area, prior to a major Japanese invasion effort. The now redesignated 36th Fighter Squadron defended the Drome and claimed 21 enemy planes destroyed during 94 individual combat engagements. The squadron lost 10 planes, but five pilots were saved. Rations were destroyed for the most part and the aircrews lived on bread, jam and tea. 1st Lt. Donald G. McGee (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1440731&postcount=112) was credited with the squadron's first confirmed victory when he shot down a Zero over the Seven-Mile Drome on May 1, 1942. While the 36th FS was establishing its ground echelon force at Port Moresby, the battle of the Coral Sea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea) was underway. In this decisive naval engagement, the Japanese were rebuffed in their efforts to land an invasion force in the vicinity of Port Moresby (http://www.ww2australia.gov.au/japadvance/moresby.html), thereby marking the beginning of Allied efforts to stem the tide of Japanese conquest.
After three months of heavy combat operations, the pilots and ground crews of the 36th got some welcome relief from another squadron and returned to their former camp near Townsville. Some of the men were suffering from malaria and dengue fever. The reunion of the squadron at Townsville was a cause for great celebration. The kitchen was opened with coffee and sandwiches, a huge stack of mail was waiting to be opened, and in the middle of the room were three large barrels of beer…and the party ended at 3:00 AM.
The Japanese sent several planes to bomb Townsville (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/provinces/australia_townsville.html) in late July 1942. After the first incident, the pilots of the 36th took to the skies to defend the city. Unfortunately, local antiaircraft batteries made it very dangerous to pursue enemy aircraft. After closer coordination with ground forces, the 36th attacked the invaders (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfields/australia/garbutt/townsville-missions.html) on the night of August 1, 1942 (URL="http://www.ozatwar.com/ozatwar/mossman.htm) and sent the enemy planes hurtling to the ground in flames.
By September 1942 (http://www.kensmen.com/sep42.html) the 36th FS was located at Milne Bay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Milne_Bay), New Guinea, and equipped with P-39 Airacobras. They performed patrol and reconnaissance missions, escorted transports, protected Allied shipping to the area of Milne Bay, and during December 1942, patrolled the area between Port Moresby and Buna, New Guinea. Enemy opposition was encountered on only two occasions, the 7th and 28th of December. On the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor, Lt. George S. Welsh, ANECDOTE (http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch1.html) who had destroyed four enemy aircraft one year earlier, shot down three Japanese planes near Buna (http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/papuancamp/papcpn-fm.htm).
http://files.myopera.com/herosrest/albums/30111/486673.pngIn late 1941 the 36th Pursuit Squadron moved to San Francisco, California in preparation for a deployment to the Asian Theater of Operations. The squadron sailed for Brisbane, Australia aboard the SS Mauri on February 12, 1942, a voyage that took 24 days. The squadron trained with P-39s at Lowood, Queenland and later at Antil Plains near Townsville, Australia. On April 20, 1942, the squadron moved to Seven-Mile Drome - CLICK http://www.sysopt.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.redraiders22bg.com/) near Port Moresby (http://books.google.com/books?id=DLz6LJBgYHcC&pg=PA215&lpg=PA215&dq=%2236TH+PURSUIT+SQUADRON%22+%22port+moresby%22+ 1st+april+1942&source=web&ots=s865PCSV7i&sig=BfrgwGLaRUN6BuPOjWmpkeP1XYc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result), New Guinea, which was the last remaining allied stronghold north of Australia. The first contingent flew up in transports on the 26th, and the pilots flew the P-39s up on the 28th. They encountered severe weather and lost 15 planes en route. It was a staggering blow to both Americans and Australians. Another 26 P-39s arrived safely on the 30th. ANECDOTE (http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Lyndon_B._Johnson#World_War_II)
The first combat mission (http://www.acepilots.com/pto/wagner.html) for the 36th PS took place on April (http://www.kensmen.com/apr42.html) 30, 1942. Tasked with a strafing mission at Lae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart) Salamaua, New Guinea (http://www.ameliaearhart.com/), the aircrews encountered 15 to 20 Japanese Zeros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junichi_Sasai). The ensuing dogfight (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/sakai.html) lasted all the way back to Port Moresby. Two pilots of the 36th, Captain Paul G. Brown - CLICK http://www.sysopt.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1246289#post1246289) and Captain James J. Bevlock, were forced to land. Capt. Brown (http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozcrashes/qld134.htm) claimed probable destruction of one Zero. During the entire war, the 36th would lose 56 men (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/people/visitors/mayer/us-dog-tags.html) listed as killed (http://www.ww2f.com/information-requests/20950-p-40-ace-buzz-wagner-disappeared-65-years-ago-today.html) or missing (http://www.puzzleboxpress.com/PB%20Web%20Files/Remembering%20a%20Fallen%20Airman.pdf) in action.
From April through June 1942, more than 300 enemy planes flew sorties over Seven-Mile Drome in an effort to soften Allied defenses and eliminate Allied air power in that area, prior to a major Japanese invasion effort. The now redesignated 36th Fighter Squadron defended the Drome and claimed 21 enemy planes destroyed during 94 individual combat engagements. The squadron lost 10 planes, but five pilots were saved. Rations were destroyed for the most part and the aircrews lived on bread, jam and tea. 1st Lt. Donald G. McGee (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1440731&postcount=112) was credited with the squadron's first confirmed victory when he shot down a Zero over the Seven-Mile Drome on May 1, 1942. While the 36th FS was establishing its ground echelon force at Port Moresby, the battle of the Coral Sea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea) was underway. In this decisive naval engagement, the Japanese were rebuffed in their efforts to land an invasion force in the vicinity of Port Moresby (http://www.ww2australia.gov.au/japadvance/moresby.html), thereby marking the beginning of Allied efforts to stem the tide of Japanese conquest.
After three months of heavy combat operations, the pilots and ground crews of the 36th got some welcome relief from another squadron and returned to their former camp near Townsville. Some of the men were suffering from malaria and dengue fever. The reunion of the squadron at Townsville was a cause for great celebration. The kitchen was opened with coffee and sandwiches, a huge stack of mail was waiting to be opened, and in the middle of the room were three large barrels of beer…and the party ended at 3:00 AM.
The Japanese sent several planes to bomb Townsville (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/provinces/australia_townsville.html) in late July 1942. After the first incident, the pilots of the 36th took to the skies to defend the city. Unfortunately, local antiaircraft batteries made it very dangerous to pursue enemy aircraft. After closer coordination with ground forces, the 36th attacked the invaders (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfields/australia/garbutt/townsville-missions.html) on the night of August 1, 1942 (URL="http://www.ozatwar.com/ozatwar/mossman.htm) and sent the enemy planes hurtling to the ground in flames.
By September 1942 (http://www.kensmen.com/sep42.html) the 36th FS was located at Milne Bay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Milne_Bay), New Guinea, and equipped with P-39 Airacobras. They performed patrol and reconnaissance missions, escorted transports, protected Allied shipping to the area of Milne Bay, and during December 1942, patrolled the area between Port Moresby and Buna, New Guinea. Enemy opposition was encountered on only two occasions, the 7th and 28th of December. On the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor, Lt. George S. Welsh, ANECDOTE (http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch1.html) who had destroyed four enemy aircraft one year earlier, shot down three Japanese planes near Buna (http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/papuancamp/papcpn-fm.htm).
herosrest
12-26-2008, 02:22 AM
The following is an account by at 2d Lt Donald McGee assigned to the 36th Pursuit Squadron:
We sailed from San Francisco on January 6, 1942. Our unescorted convoy consisted of the S.S Mariposa and the S.S President Coolidge. After we arrived in Melbourne, Australia, on January 31, the 9th Squadron was sent to the Williamtown RAAF station, near Newcastle, where we waited for our planes to arrive. None of us had yet flown fighter aircraft, so we tried to snatch a few flying hours in a Wirraway loaned to us by the RAAF. Also, I jumped into a wrecked P-40E as often as possible to "cockpit-check" myself-when our P-40s started to arrive, I wanted to be one of the first to check out. After being designated to fly "that one over there," I grabbed the bit and ran. But the exuberance of youth wasn't all that was required to do the job right and, in less than an hour, I found myself in pretty much the same state as the guy who had wrecked that other P-40. Not long after this, the 49th Group started receiving pilots who had had combat experience in the Philippines and Java, so most of us were transferred to the 8th Pursuit Group, which was then arriving in Brisbane. When the experienced combat pilots had trained my fellow novices who remained with the unit, the 49th moved up to Darwin. Meantime, my contemporaries and I from the 9th Squadron were assigned to the 8th Group's 36th Squadron when we reached Lowood Station, near Brisbane. We began checking out in P-39Ds.
Then we moved to Antil Plains, a grass strip near Townsville. Most of us had, ten to fifteen hours of fighter transition but no high-performance or gunnery training when we were ordered to proceed to Port Moresby, New Guinea. The 36th Pursuit Squadron left Townsville for Port Moresby on April 26, 1942, stopping that night at Cairns. Both the 35th Squadron, from Woodstock, and the 36th Squadron, from Antil Plains, made this move together. We stayed at Cairns on April 27, probably to patch up a few broken birds. I logged a 40-minute local flight there in the afternoon. This was probably to check out work on my prop, since I was flying an F-model P-39 whose prop spattered oil all over the windshield and took out any forward vision. On April 28, we moved on to Horn Island, arriving there just after a raid by the Japanese. Their leavings were a burned-up B-25 and a couple of wrecked Aussie aircraft. We flew a field-cover mission right after arrival, and I logged two hours and 30 minutes. Next day, on April 30, we took off for Port Moresby; ruining our arrival to be after noon because we expected that any raids by the Japanese would be over by then. We were 'told that the runway at 7-Mile Strip was very narrow and that we should clear straight ahead after landing and then taxi back on the dirt track at our right. By the time we arrived, ole Lucky Pierre here had a windshield full of dust and prop oil again, so another blind landing was necessary. That was no big deal except that Izzy Toubman, our operations officer, was taxiing back on the runway as I came in. I couldn't see his plane until just before we hit wingtips - my left to his left. This wouldn't have been a big deal, because the damage was slight, but it kept me off our first attack on Lae.
This attack was cooked up and led by Lieutenant Colonel Boyd "Buzz" Wagner, from V Fighter Command, that same afternoon. I stopped my *****ing about this turn of events by extracting a promise from 1/Lt Bill Meng, our acting CO, that I'd be on the first field-cover patrol the next day. That promise was kept, and it resulted in my shooting down the 36th's first Zero. That day, May 1, we were out of bed at about 0400; had a breakfast of bread, Australian canned jam, and tea; and got to the flight line before daylight. Leading the field-cover patrol was 1/Lt Don Mainwaring. On his wing was 2/Lt Patrick "Army" Armstrong. I led the second element, but my wingman never got airborne. The three of us climbed to about 8,000 feet and covered an area north and northwest of the field, expecting to meet any raids coming in from Lae. After two hours or so we were supposed to be relieved, so Don started back toward the field and set us up in trail formation for landing. We peeled normally and took our distance for landing, but, as I broke, I could see that the near half of the runway was covered in ground fog. Don continued his pattern and tried to land through the fog, but he hit hard and wiped out his landing gear. He called on the radio and told us not to try to land, that the runway was blocked. Army and I pulled up and broke out of the traffic pattern. Army chose to stay down low because he was low on gas, but I told him I was going to get some altitude. I was low on gas, too, but I didn't want to get caught down there if a raid came in. Also, if I ran out of fuel before the runway was cleared, I wanted to be able to pick a soft spot to dead-stick it in. I had just reached 3,500 feet when our controller started yelling, "Zeros attacking the field!" I looked back and started a turn toward the field, but I didn't see any Zeros. Then I gulped and checked my gas. The gauges registered just under 20 gallons, which, in combat, would last about 9 minutes. I was heading in a northerly direction when I saw a single Zero making a run from south to north across our revetment area. I had a debate with myself here, the gist of which was, `It's not smart to jump into a fight with no gas. I'm down low at low airspeed. I can't out-turn a Zero. They left me off the mission yesterday. **** on it, I'm goin’ in !
I rolled in on the Zero and pushed over. To conserve fuel, I did not push it to full power. The pilot of the Zero hadn't seen me, and I didn't see several other Zeros above. As I closed in-too slowly-I tried to figure out which crossbar in, the gunsight I was supposed to use. Giving up, I simply worked the whole sight out in front of the enemy plane and fired a burst at about 40 degrees deflection. The tracers flew by the Zero on the right side. I adjusted-my lead and fired another burst. The tracers flew by just under my target. Adjusting again, I pulled the sight farther out in front, raised rit some, and fired at about 15 degrees deflection. This time, the tracers covered an area in front of and all around the :enemy plane. There was no fire or smoke, but the Zero rolled slowly to the left as if to start a split-S. I followed the Zero, but, suddenly, I realized that we were only about 150 feet off the ground ! I pulled out at just about the level of the trees and saw the explosion over my right shoulder as the Zero hit the ground. I assume my bullets had the pilot. Then all hell broke loose. A mess of red balls surrounded coming from my left, so I automatically broke hard left, fled too hard, snap-stalled as I tightened the turn, popped the stick (quickly pushed it forward to break the stall), and overed. Then I was surrounded by red balls coming from the right, so I yanked the airplane around to the right: suddenly realizing that I had given one of my pursuers a sharp, no-deflection shot, I thought, "I got me one, but I'm gonna be around to tell anybody about it." As I racked plane around to the right, I snap-stalled again, spun, and veered just about at treetop level. I was now headed not for Port Moresby, but the sea, so I hugged the treetops, and started jinking violently so I could keep those others from getting a good shot at me. That I had the good sense to do the jinking, I attribute to Captain Ajax Baumler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Baumler), who had shot down 8 planes while flying for the Loyalists in the Spanish Civil War and had been our tactics instructor at Selma.
I looked back and saw that I had three Zeros lined up in back of me. The closest one was getting a burst in now and then. He missed me on my right, on my left, and over the top, so I knew the jinking was working well, but it still made me flinch when I saw the guns blinking at me. I wondered what it was going to feel like when I got hit. But, one by one, they gave up the chase. Then I only had to think about how far I'd have to swim home if my gas gave out before I reached land again. As soon as the last Zero left, I turned around immediately, staying down on the water. I practically followed the last Zero in as he climbed out to the north. Then, as I crossed the south end of 7-Mile Strip, still at treetop level, I dropped the gear, made a left pattern, and landed. As I turned off the runway, I saw that several of the ground crewmen were pointing at my airplane, so, with pride in my victory, I stuck my arm out of the window and held up one finger. Then the engine quit - out of gas. The pointing, I learned, was at the damage to my aircraft. It had taken two 20mm hits in the tail, one on each side of the rudderpost, with plenty of little shrapnel holes in the horizontal stabilizer and elevators. There were five 7.7mm holes in the left wing root, four in the right wing root, and one in the top of my canopy. That one had taken my sunglasses off my head without even scratching me (the glasses were a mess, though).
The shooter's cowl guns had apparently straddled me. The Zero I shot down was the first confirmed victory for the 36th Pursuit Squadron. Confirmation was easy since the Zero had gone down only about a mile from the field. Later confirmations were a lot more difficult to come by, and several were lost entirely. The Zero shot down was that flown by Petty Officer First Class Yoshisuke Arita. It crashed on top of a hill, later named by the Americans as “Bitsabishi Hill”.
We sailed from San Francisco on January 6, 1942. Our unescorted convoy consisted of the S.S Mariposa and the S.S President Coolidge. After we arrived in Melbourne, Australia, on January 31, the 9th Squadron was sent to the Williamtown RAAF station, near Newcastle, where we waited for our planes to arrive. None of us had yet flown fighter aircraft, so we tried to snatch a few flying hours in a Wirraway loaned to us by the RAAF. Also, I jumped into a wrecked P-40E as often as possible to "cockpit-check" myself-when our P-40s started to arrive, I wanted to be one of the first to check out. After being designated to fly "that one over there," I grabbed the bit and ran. But the exuberance of youth wasn't all that was required to do the job right and, in less than an hour, I found myself in pretty much the same state as the guy who had wrecked that other P-40. Not long after this, the 49th Group started receiving pilots who had had combat experience in the Philippines and Java, so most of us were transferred to the 8th Pursuit Group, which was then arriving in Brisbane. When the experienced combat pilots had trained my fellow novices who remained with the unit, the 49th moved up to Darwin. Meantime, my contemporaries and I from the 9th Squadron were assigned to the 8th Group's 36th Squadron when we reached Lowood Station, near Brisbane. We began checking out in P-39Ds.
Then we moved to Antil Plains, a grass strip near Townsville. Most of us had, ten to fifteen hours of fighter transition but no high-performance or gunnery training when we were ordered to proceed to Port Moresby, New Guinea. The 36th Pursuit Squadron left Townsville for Port Moresby on April 26, 1942, stopping that night at Cairns. Both the 35th Squadron, from Woodstock, and the 36th Squadron, from Antil Plains, made this move together. We stayed at Cairns on April 27, probably to patch up a few broken birds. I logged a 40-minute local flight there in the afternoon. This was probably to check out work on my prop, since I was flying an F-model P-39 whose prop spattered oil all over the windshield and took out any forward vision. On April 28, we moved on to Horn Island, arriving there just after a raid by the Japanese. Their leavings were a burned-up B-25 and a couple of wrecked Aussie aircraft. We flew a field-cover mission right after arrival, and I logged two hours and 30 minutes. Next day, on April 30, we took off for Port Moresby; ruining our arrival to be after noon because we expected that any raids by the Japanese would be over by then. We were 'told that the runway at 7-Mile Strip was very narrow and that we should clear straight ahead after landing and then taxi back on the dirt track at our right. By the time we arrived, ole Lucky Pierre here had a windshield full of dust and prop oil again, so another blind landing was necessary. That was no big deal except that Izzy Toubman, our operations officer, was taxiing back on the runway as I came in. I couldn't see his plane until just before we hit wingtips - my left to his left. This wouldn't have been a big deal, because the damage was slight, but it kept me off our first attack on Lae.
This attack was cooked up and led by Lieutenant Colonel Boyd "Buzz" Wagner, from V Fighter Command, that same afternoon. I stopped my *****ing about this turn of events by extracting a promise from 1/Lt Bill Meng, our acting CO, that I'd be on the first field-cover patrol the next day. That promise was kept, and it resulted in my shooting down the 36th's first Zero. That day, May 1, we were out of bed at about 0400; had a breakfast of bread, Australian canned jam, and tea; and got to the flight line before daylight. Leading the field-cover patrol was 1/Lt Don Mainwaring. On his wing was 2/Lt Patrick "Army" Armstrong. I led the second element, but my wingman never got airborne. The three of us climbed to about 8,000 feet and covered an area north and northwest of the field, expecting to meet any raids coming in from Lae. After two hours or so we were supposed to be relieved, so Don started back toward the field and set us up in trail formation for landing. We peeled normally and took our distance for landing, but, as I broke, I could see that the near half of the runway was covered in ground fog. Don continued his pattern and tried to land through the fog, but he hit hard and wiped out his landing gear. He called on the radio and told us not to try to land, that the runway was blocked. Army and I pulled up and broke out of the traffic pattern. Army chose to stay down low because he was low on gas, but I told him I was going to get some altitude. I was low on gas, too, but I didn't want to get caught down there if a raid came in. Also, if I ran out of fuel before the runway was cleared, I wanted to be able to pick a soft spot to dead-stick it in. I had just reached 3,500 feet when our controller started yelling, "Zeros attacking the field!" I looked back and started a turn toward the field, but I didn't see any Zeros. Then I gulped and checked my gas. The gauges registered just under 20 gallons, which, in combat, would last about 9 minutes. I was heading in a northerly direction when I saw a single Zero making a run from south to north across our revetment area. I had a debate with myself here, the gist of which was, `It's not smart to jump into a fight with no gas. I'm down low at low airspeed. I can't out-turn a Zero. They left me off the mission yesterday. **** on it, I'm goin’ in !
I rolled in on the Zero and pushed over. To conserve fuel, I did not push it to full power. The pilot of the Zero hadn't seen me, and I didn't see several other Zeros above. As I closed in-too slowly-I tried to figure out which crossbar in, the gunsight I was supposed to use. Giving up, I simply worked the whole sight out in front of the enemy plane and fired a burst at about 40 degrees deflection. The tracers flew by the Zero on the right side. I adjusted-my lead and fired another burst. The tracers flew by just under my target. Adjusting again, I pulled the sight farther out in front, raised rit some, and fired at about 15 degrees deflection. This time, the tracers covered an area in front of and all around the :enemy plane. There was no fire or smoke, but the Zero rolled slowly to the left as if to start a split-S. I followed the Zero, but, suddenly, I realized that we were only about 150 feet off the ground ! I pulled out at just about the level of the trees and saw the explosion over my right shoulder as the Zero hit the ground. I assume my bullets had the pilot. Then all hell broke loose. A mess of red balls surrounded coming from my left, so I automatically broke hard left, fled too hard, snap-stalled as I tightened the turn, popped the stick (quickly pushed it forward to break the stall), and overed. Then I was surrounded by red balls coming from the right, so I yanked the airplane around to the right: suddenly realizing that I had given one of my pursuers a sharp, no-deflection shot, I thought, "I got me one, but I'm gonna be around to tell anybody about it." As I racked plane around to the right, I snap-stalled again, spun, and veered just about at treetop level. I was now headed not for Port Moresby, but the sea, so I hugged the treetops, and started jinking violently so I could keep those others from getting a good shot at me. That I had the good sense to do the jinking, I attribute to Captain Ajax Baumler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Baumler), who had shot down 8 planes while flying for the Loyalists in the Spanish Civil War and had been our tactics instructor at Selma.
I looked back and saw that I had three Zeros lined up in back of me. The closest one was getting a burst in now and then. He missed me on my right, on my left, and over the top, so I knew the jinking was working well, but it still made me flinch when I saw the guns blinking at me. I wondered what it was going to feel like when I got hit. But, one by one, they gave up the chase. Then I only had to think about how far I'd have to swim home if my gas gave out before I reached land again. As soon as the last Zero left, I turned around immediately, staying down on the water. I practically followed the last Zero in as he climbed out to the north. Then, as I crossed the south end of 7-Mile Strip, still at treetop level, I dropped the gear, made a left pattern, and landed. As I turned off the runway, I saw that several of the ground crewmen were pointing at my airplane, so, with pride in my victory, I stuck my arm out of the window and held up one finger. Then the engine quit - out of gas. The pointing, I learned, was at the damage to my aircraft. It had taken two 20mm hits in the tail, one on each side of the rudderpost, with plenty of little shrapnel holes in the horizontal stabilizer and elevators. There were five 7.7mm holes in the left wing root, four in the right wing root, and one in the top of my canopy. That one had taken my sunglasses off my head without even scratching me (the glasses were a mess, though).
The shooter's cowl guns had apparently straddled me. The Zero I shot down was the first confirmed victory for the 36th Pursuit Squadron. Confirmation was easy since the Zero had gone down only about a mile from the field. Later confirmations were a lot more difficult to come by, and several were lost entirely. The Zero shot down was that flown by Petty Officer First Class Yoshisuke Arita. It crashed on top of a hill, later named by the Americans as “Bitsabishi Hill”.
BadDriver
12-26-2008, 02:31 AM
Put it short words. I ain't reading all that shizz for entertainment.
BadDriver
12-26-2008, 02:33 AM
The following is an account by at 2d Lt Donald McGee assigned to the 36th Pursuit Squadron:
We sailed from San Francisco on January 6, 1942. Our unescorted convoy consisted of the S.S Mariposa and the S.S President Coolidge. After we arrived in Melbourne, Australia, on January 31, the 9th Squadron was sent to the Williamtown RAAF station, near Newcastle, where we waited for our planes to arrive. None of us had yet flown fighter aircraft, so we tried to snatch a few flying hours in a Wirraway loaned to us by the RAAF. Also, I jumped into a wrecked P-40E as often as possible to "cockpit-check" myself-when our P-40s started to arrive, I wanted to be one of the first to check out. After being designated to fly "that one over there," I grabbed the bit and ran. But the exuberance of youth wasn't all that was required to do the job right and, in less than an hour, I found myself in pretty much the same state as the guy who had wrecked that other P-40. Not long after this, the 49th Group started receiving pilots who had had combat experience in the Philippines and Java, so most of us were transferred to the 8th Pursuit Group, which was then arriving in Brisbane. When the experienced combat pilots had trained my fellow novices who remained with the unit, the 49th moved up to Darwin. Meantime, my contemporaries and I from the 9th Squadron were assigned to the 8th Group's 36th Squadron when we reached Lowood Station, near Brisbane. We began checking out in P-39Ds.
Then we moved to Antil Plains, a grass strip near Townsville. Most of us had, ten to fifteen hours of fighter transition but no high-performance or gunnery training when we were ordered to proceed to Port Moresby, New Guinea. The 36th Pursuit Squadron left Townsville for Port Moresby on April 26, 1942, stopping that night at Cairns. Both the 35th Squadron, from Woodstock, and the 36th Squadron, from Antil Plains, made this move together. We stayed at Cairns on April 27, probably to patch up a few broken birds. I logged a 40-minute local flight there in the afternoon. This was probably to check out work on my prop, since I was flying an F-model P-39 whose prop spattered oil all over the windshield and took out any forward vision. On April 28, we moved on to Horn Island, arriving there just after a raid by the Japanese. Their leavings were a burned-up B-25 and a couple of wrecked Aussie aircraft. We flew a field-cover mission right after arrival, and I logged two hours and 30 minutes. Next day, on April 30, we took off for Port Moresby; ruining our arrival to be after noon because we expected that any raids by the Japanese would be over by then. We were 'told that the runway at 7-Mile Strip was very narrow and that we should clear straight ahead after landing and then taxi back on the dirt track at our right. By the time we arrived, ole Lucky Pierre here had a windshield full of dust and prop oil again, so another blind landing was necessary. That was no big deal except that Izzy Toubman, our operations officer, was taxiing back on the runway as I came in. I couldn't see his plane until just before we hit wingtips - my left to his left. This wouldn't have been a big deal, because the damage was slight, but it kept me off our first attack on Lae.
This attack was cooked up and led by Lieutenant Colonel Boyd "Buzz" Wagner, from V Fighter Command, that same afternoon. I stopped my *****ing about this turn of events by extracting a promise from 1/Lt Bill Meng, our acting CO, that I'd be on the first field-cover patrol the next day. That promise was kept, and it resulted in my shooting down the 36th's first Zero. That day, May 1, we were out of bed at about 0400; had a breakfast of bread, Australian canned jam, and tea; and got to the flight line before daylight. Leading the field-cover patrol was 1/Lt Don Mainwaring. On his wing was 2/Lt Patrick "Army" Armstrong. I led the second element, but my wingman never got airborne. The three of us climbed to about 8,000 feet and covered an area north and northwest of the field, expecting to meet any raids coming in from Lae. After two hours or so we were supposed to be relieved, so Don started back toward the field and set us up in trail formation for landing. We peeled normally and took our distance for landing, but, as I broke, I could see that the near half of the runway was covered in ground fog. Don continued his pattern and tried to land through the fog, but he hit hard and wiped out his landing gear. He called on the radio and told us not to try to land, that the runway was blocked. Army and I pulled up and broke out of the traffic pattern. Army chose to stay down low because he was low on gas, but I told him I was going to get some altitude. I was low on gas, too, but I didn't want to get caught down there if a raid came in. Also, if I ran out of fuel before the runway was cleared, I wanted to be able to pick a soft spot to dead-stick it in. I had just reached 3,500 feet when our controller started yelling, "Zeros attacking the field!" I looked back and started a turn toward the field, but I didn't see any Zeros. Then I gulped and checked my gas. The gauges registered just under 20 gallons, which, in combat, would last about 9 minutes. I was heading in a northerly direction when I saw a single Zero making a run from south to north across our revetment area. I had a debate with myself here, the gist of which was, `It's not smart to jump into a fight with no gas. I'm down low at low airspeed. I can't out-turn a Zero. They left me off the mission yesterday. **** on it, I'm goin’ in !
I rolled in on the Zero and pushed over. To conserve fuel, I did not push it to full power. The pilot of the Zero hadn't seen me, and I didn't see several other Zeros above. As I closed in-too slowly-I tried to figure out which crossbar in, the gunsight I was supposed to use. Giving up, I simply worked the whole sight out in front of the enemy plane and fired a burst at about 40 degrees deflection. The tracers flew by the Zero on the right side. I adjusted-my lead and fired another burst. The tracers flew by just under my target. Adjusting again, I pulled the sight farther out in front, raised rit some, and fired at about 15 degrees deflection. This time, the tracers covered an area in front of and all around the :enemy plane. There was no fire or smoke, but the Zero rolled slowly to the left as if to start a split-S. I followed the Zero, but, suddenly, I realized that we were only about 150 feet off the ground ! I pulled out at just about the level of the trees and saw the explosion over my right shoulder as the Zero hit the ground. I assume my bullets had the pilot. Then all hell broke loose. A mess of red balls surrounded coming from my left, so I automatically broke hard left, fled too hard, snap-stalled as I tightened the turn, popped the stick (quickly pushed it forward to break the stall), and overed. Then I was surrounded by red balls coming from the right, so I yanked the airplane around to the right: suddenly realizing that I had given one of my pursuers a sharp, no-deflection shot, I thought, "I got me one, but I'm gonna be around to tell anybody about it." As I racked plane around to the right, I snap-stalled again, spun, and veered just about at treetop level. I was now headed not for Port Moresby, but the sea, so I hugged the treetops, and started jinking violently so I could keep those others from getting a good shot at me. That I had the good sense to do the jinking, I attribute to Captain Ajax Baumler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Baumler), who had shot down 8 planes while flying for the Loyalists in the Spanish Civil War and had been our tactics instructor at Selma.
I looked back and saw that I had three Zeros lined up in back of me. The closest one was getting a burst in now and then. He missed me on my right, on my left, and over the top, so I knew the jinking was working well, but it still made me flinch when I saw the guns blinking at me. I wondered what it was going to feel like when I got hit. But, one by one, they gave up the chase. Then I only had to think about how far I'd have to swim home if my gas gave out before I reached land again. As soon as the last Zero left, I turned around immediately, staying down on the water. I practically followed the last Zero in as he climbed out to the north. Then, as I crossed the south end of 7-Mile Strip, still at treetop level, I dropped the gear, made a left pattern, and landed. As I turned off the runway, I saw that several of the ground crewmen were pointing at my airplane, so, with pride in my victory, I stuck my arm out of the window and held up one finger. Then the engine quit - out of gas. The pointing, I learned, was at the damage to my aircraft. It had taken two 20mm hits in the tail, one on each side of the rudderpost, with plenty of little shrapnel holes in the horizontal stabilizer and elevators. There were five 7.7mm holes in the left wing root, four in the right wing root, and one in the top of my canopy. That one had taken my sunglasses off my head without even scratching me (the glasses were a mess, though).
The shooter's cowl guns had apparently straddled me. The Zero I shot down was the first confirmed victory for the 36th Pursuit Squadron. Confirmation was easy since the Zero had gone down only about a mile from the field. Later confirmations were a lot more difficult to come by, and several were lost entirely. The Zero shot down was that flown by Petty Officer First Class Yoshisuke Arita. It crashed on top of a hill, later named by the Americans as “Bitsabishi Hill”.
Ferk, ya should be torched alive for posting that. :mad:
We sailed from San Francisco on January 6, 1942. Our unescorted convoy consisted of the S.S Mariposa and the S.S President Coolidge. After we arrived in Melbourne, Australia, on January 31, the 9th Squadron was sent to the Williamtown RAAF station, near Newcastle, where we waited for our planes to arrive. None of us had yet flown fighter aircraft, so we tried to snatch a few flying hours in a Wirraway loaned to us by the RAAF. Also, I jumped into a wrecked P-40E as often as possible to "cockpit-check" myself-when our P-40s started to arrive, I wanted to be one of the first to check out. After being designated to fly "that one over there," I grabbed the bit and ran. But the exuberance of youth wasn't all that was required to do the job right and, in less than an hour, I found myself in pretty much the same state as the guy who had wrecked that other P-40. Not long after this, the 49th Group started receiving pilots who had had combat experience in the Philippines and Java, so most of us were transferred to the 8th Pursuit Group, which was then arriving in Brisbane. When the experienced combat pilots had trained my fellow novices who remained with the unit, the 49th moved up to Darwin. Meantime, my contemporaries and I from the 9th Squadron were assigned to the 8th Group's 36th Squadron when we reached Lowood Station, near Brisbane. We began checking out in P-39Ds.
Then we moved to Antil Plains, a grass strip near Townsville. Most of us had, ten to fifteen hours of fighter transition but no high-performance or gunnery training when we were ordered to proceed to Port Moresby, New Guinea. The 36th Pursuit Squadron left Townsville for Port Moresby on April 26, 1942, stopping that night at Cairns. Both the 35th Squadron, from Woodstock, and the 36th Squadron, from Antil Plains, made this move together. We stayed at Cairns on April 27, probably to patch up a few broken birds. I logged a 40-minute local flight there in the afternoon. This was probably to check out work on my prop, since I was flying an F-model P-39 whose prop spattered oil all over the windshield and took out any forward vision. On April 28, we moved on to Horn Island, arriving there just after a raid by the Japanese. Their leavings were a burned-up B-25 and a couple of wrecked Aussie aircraft. We flew a field-cover mission right after arrival, and I logged two hours and 30 minutes. Next day, on April 30, we took off for Port Moresby; ruining our arrival to be after noon because we expected that any raids by the Japanese would be over by then. We were 'told that the runway at 7-Mile Strip was very narrow and that we should clear straight ahead after landing and then taxi back on the dirt track at our right. By the time we arrived, ole Lucky Pierre here had a windshield full of dust and prop oil again, so another blind landing was necessary. That was no big deal except that Izzy Toubman, our operations officer, was taxiing back on the runway as I came in. I couldn't see his plane until just before we hit wingtips - my left to his left. This wouldn't have been a big deal, because the damage was slight, but it kept me off our first attack on Lae.
This attack was cooked up and led by Lieutenant Colonel Boyd "Buzz" Wagner, from V Fighter Command, that same afternoon. I stopped my *****ing about this turn of events by extracting a promise from 1/Lt Bill Meng, our acting CO, that I'd be on the first field-cover patrol the next day. That promise was kept, and it resulted in my shooting down the 36th's first Zero. That day, May 1, we were out of bed at about 0400; had a breakfast of bread, Australian canned jam, and tea; and got to the flight line before daylight. Leading the field-cover patrol was 1/Lt Don Mainwaring. On his wing was 2/Lt Patrick "Army" Armstrong. I led the second element, but my wingman never got airborne. The three of us climbed to about 8,000 feet and covered an area north and northwest of the field, expecting to meet any raids coming in from Lae. After two hours or so we were supposed to be relieved, so Don started back toward the field and set us up in trail formation for landing. We peeled normally and took our distance for landing, but, as I broke, I could see that the near half of the runway was covered in ground fog. Don continued his pattern and tried to land through the fog, but he hit hard and wiped out his landing gear. He called on the radio and told us not to try to land, that the runway was blocked. Army and I pulled up and broke out of the traffic pattern. Army chose to stay down low because he was low on gas, but I told him I was going to get some altitude. I was low on gas, too, but I didn't want to get caught down there if a raid came in. Also, if I ran out of fuel before the runway was cleared, I wanted to be able to pick a soft spot to dead-stick it in. I had just reached 3,500 feet when our controller started yelling, "Zeros attacking the field!" I looked back and started a turn toward the field, but I didn't see any Zeros. Then I gulped and checked my gas. The gauges registered just under 20 gallons, which, in combat, would last about 9 minutes. I was heading in a northerly direction when I saw a single Zero making a run from south to north across our revetment area. I had a debate with myself here, the gist of which was, `It's not smart to jump into a fight with no gas. I'm down low at low airspeed. I can't out-turn a Zero. They left me off the mission yesterday. **** on it, I'm goin’ in !
I rolled in on the Zero and pushed over. To conserve fuel, I did not push it to full power. The pilot of the Zero hadn't seen me, and I didn't see several other Zeros above. As I closed in-too slowly-I tried to figure out which crossbar in, the gunsight I was supposed to use. Giving up, I simply worked the whole sight out in front of the enemy plane and fired a burst at about 40 degrees deflection. The tracers flew by the Zero on the right side. I adjusted-my lead and fired another burst. The tracers flew by just under my target. Adjusting again, I pulled the sight farther out in front, raised rit some, and fired at about 15 degrees deflection. This time, the tracers covered an area in front of and all around the :enemy plane. There was no fire or smoke, but the Zero rolled slowly to the left as if to start a split-S. I followed the Zero, but, suddenly, I realized that we were only about 150 feet off the ground ! I pulled out at just about the level of the trees and saw the explosion over my right shoulder as the Zero hit the ground. I assume my bullets had the pilot. Then all hell broke loose. A mess of red balls surrounded coming from my left, so I automatically broke hard left, fled too hard, snap-stalled as I tightened the turn, popped the stick (quickly pushed it forward to break the stall), and overed. Then I was surrounded by red balls coming from the right, so I yanked the airplane around to the right: suddenly realizing that I had given one of my pursuers a sharp, no-deflection shot, I thought, "I got me one, but I'm gonna be around to tell anybody about it." As I racked plane around to the right, I snap-stalled again, spun, and veered just about at treetop level. I was now headed not for Port Moresby, but the sea, so I hugged the treetops, and started jinking violently so I could keep those others from getting a good shot at me. That I had the good sense to do the jinking, I attribute to Captain Ajax Baumler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Baumler), who had shot down 8 planes while flying for the Loyalists in the Spanish Civil War and had been our tactics instructor at Selma.
I looked back and saw that I had three Zeros lined up in back of me. The closest one was getting a burst in now and then. He missed me on my right, on my left, and over the top, so I knew the jinking was working well, but it still made me flinch when I saw the guns blinking at me. I wondered what it was going to feel like when I got hit. But, one by one, they gave up the chase. Then I only had to think about how far I'd have to swim home if my gas gave out before I reached land again. As soon as the last Zero left, I turned around immediately, staying down on the water. I practically followed the last Zero in as he climbed out to the north. Then, as I crossed the south end of 7-Mile Strip, still at treetop level, I dropped the gear, made a left pattern, and landed. As I turned off the runway, I saw that several of the ground crewmen were pointing at my airplane, so, with pride in my victory, I stuck my arm out of the window and held up one finger. Then the engine quit - out of gas. The pointing, I learned, was at the damage to my aircraft. It had taken two 20mm hits in the tail, one on each side of the rudderpost, with plenty of little shrapnel holes in the horizontal stabilizer and elevators. There were five 7.7mm holes in the left wing root, four in the right wing root, and one in the top of my canopy. That one had taken my sunglasses off my head without even scratching me (the glasses were a mess, though).
The shooter's cowl guns had apparently straddled me. The Zero I shot down was the first confirmed victory for the 36th Pursuit Squadron. Confirmation was easy since the Zero had gone down only about a mile from the field. Later confirmations were a lot more difficult to come by, and several were lost entirely. The Zero shot down was that flown by Petty Officer First Class Yoshisuke Arita. It crashed on top of a hill, later named by the Americans as “Bitsabishi Hill”.
Ferk, ya should be torched alive for posting that. :mad:
herosrest
12-26-2008, 02:54 AM
l disagree...... lt's................... Christmas.
Chin up BD, i'm in the dumps as well. Killin time. Absent friends, man. Absent friends.
Don't need the message of peace and love right now. l can't stand the hypocrasy. Ducemus!
Chin up BD, i'm in the dumps as well. Killin time. Absent friends, man. Absent friends.
Don't need the message of peace and love right now. l can't stand the hypocrasy. Ducemus!
herosrest
12-26-2008, 04:30 AM
http://files.myopera.com/herosrest/albums/634358/daku.jpg (http://www.funmunch.com/celebrities/models/kelly_brook/enlarge/kelly_brook_11.jpg)Ya missed part 1 - of a two part post BD - grab a coffee - chill down.....
KLIK THE COFFEE CUP - YOUK NOW YOU WANT TO. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif (http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_03/kellyBrookMTX1105_468x838.jpg) klik da smiley too.
Some research. Totally useless but interesting stuff that just links in to itself in a beautiful symmetry (http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2008/12/19/stocking-stuffers-for-physicists/) of purpose
http://files.myopera.com/herosrest/albums/30111/486673.pngIn late 1941 the 36th Pursuit Squadron moved to San Francisco, California in preparation for a deployment to the Asian Theater of Operations. The squadron sailed for Brisbane, Australia aboard the SS Mauri on February 12, 1942, a voyage that took 24 days. The squadron trained with P-39s at Lowood, Queenland and later at Antil Plains near Townsville, Australia. On April 20, 1942, the squadron moved to Seven-Mile Drome - CLICK http://www.sysopt.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.redraiders22bg.com/) near Port Moresby (http://books.google.com/books?id=DLz6LJBgYHcC&pg=PA215&lpg=PA215&dq=%2236TH+PURSUIT+SQUADRON%22+%22port+moresby%22+ 1st+april+1942&source=web&ots=s865PCSV7i&sig=BfrgwGLaRUN6BuPOjWmpkeP1XYc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result), New Guinea, which was the last remaining allied stronghold north of Australia. The first contingent flew up in transports on the 26th, and the pilots flew the P-39s up on the 28th. They encountered severe weather and lost 15 planes en route. It was a staggering blow to both Americans and Australians. Another 26 P-39s arrived safely on the 30th. ANECDOTE (http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Lyndon_B._Johnson#World_War_II)
The first combat mission (http://www.acepilots.com/pto/wagner.html) for the 36th PS took place on April (http://www.kensmen.com/apr42.html) 30, 1942. Tasked with a strafing mission at Lae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart) Salamaua, New Guinea (http://www.ameliaearhart.com/), the aircrews encountered 15 to 20 Japanese Zeros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junichi_Sasai). The ensuing dogfight (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/sakai.html) lasted all the way back to Port Moresby. Two pilots of the 36th, Captain Paul G. Brown - CLICK http://www.sysopt.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1246289#post1246289) and Captain James J. Bevlock, were forced to land. Capt. Brown (http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozcrashes/qld134.htm) claimed probable destruction of one Zero. During the entire war, the 36th would lose 56 men (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/people/visitors/mayer/us-dog-tags.html) listed as killed (http://www.ww2f.com/information-requests/20950-p-40-ace-buzz-wagner-disappeared-65-years-ago-today.html) or missing (http://www.puzzleboxpress.com/PB%20Web%20Files/Remembering%20a%20Fallen%20Airman.pdf) in action.
From April through June 1942, more than 300 enemy planes flew sorties over Seven-Mile Drome in an effort to soften Allied defenses and eliminate Allied air power in that area, prior to a major Japanese invasion effort. The now redesignated 36th Fighter Squadron defended the Drome and claimed 21 enemy planes destroyed during 94 individual combat engagements. The squadron lost 10 planes, but five pilots were saved. Rations were destroyed for the most part and the aircrews lived on bread, jam and tea. 1st Lt. Donald G. McGee (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1440731&postcount=112) was credited with the squadron's first confirmed victory when he shot down a Zero over the Seven-Mile Drome on May 1, 1942. While the 36th FS was establishing its ground echelon force at Port Moresby, the battle of the Coral Sea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea) was underway. In this decisive naval engagement, the Japanese were rebuffed in their efforts to land an invasion force in the vicinity of Port Moresby (http://www.ww2australia.gov.au/japadvance/moresby.html), thereby marking the beginning of Allied efforts to stem the tide of Japanese conquest.
After three months of heavy combat operations, the pilots and ground crews of the 36th got some welcome relief from another squadron and returned to their former camp near Townsville. Some of the men were suffering from malaria and dengue fever. The reunion of the squadron at Townsville was a cause for great celebration. The kitchen was opened with coffee and sandwiches, a huge stack of mail was waiting to be opened, and in the middle of the room were three large barrels of beer…and the party ended at 3:00 AM.
The Japanese sent several planes to bomb Townsville (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/provinces/australia_townsville.html) in late July 1942. After the first incident, the pilots of the 36th took to the skies to defend the city. Unfortunately, local antiaircraft batteries made it very dangerous to pursue enemy aircraft. After closer coordination with ground forces, the 36th attacked the invaders (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfields/australia/garbutt/townsville-missions.html) on the night of August 1, 1942 (URL="http://www.ozatwar.com/ozatwar/mossman.htm) and sent the enemy planes hurtling to the ground in flames.
By September 1942 (http://www.kensmen.com/sep42.html) the 36th FS was located at Milne Bay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Milne_Bay), New Guinea, and equipped with P-39 Airacobras. They performed patrol and reconnaissance missions, escorted transports, protected Allied shipping to the area of Milne Bay, and during December 1942, patrolled the area between Port Moresby and Buna, New Guinea. Enemy opposition was encountered on only two occasions, the 7th and 28th of December. On the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor, Lt. George S. Welsh, ANECDOTE (http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch1.html) who had destroyed four enemy aircraft one year earlier, shot down three Japanese planes near Buna (http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/papuancamp/papcpn-fm.htm).
KLIK THE COFFEE CUP - YOUK NOW YOU WANT TO. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif (http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_03/kellyBrookMTX1105_468x838.jpg) klik da smiley too.
Some research. Totally useless but interesting stuff that just links in to itself in a beautiful symmetry (http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2008/12/19/stocking-stuffers-for-physicists/) of purpose
http://files.myopera.com/herosrest/albums/30111/486673.pngIn late 1941 the 36th Pursuit Squadron moved to San Francisco, California in preparation for a deployment to the Asian Theater of Operations. The squadron sailed for Brisbane, Australia aboard the SS Mauri on February 12, 1942, a voyage that took 24 days. The squadron trained with P-39s at Lowood, Queenland and later at Antil Plains near Townsville, Australia. On April 20, 1942, the squadron moved to Seven-Mile Drome - CLICK http://www.sysopt.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.redraiders22bg.com/) near Port Moresby (http://books.google.com/books?id=DLz6LJBgYHcC&pg=PA215&lpg=PA215&dq=%2236TH+PURSUIT+SQUADRON%22+%22port+moresby%22+ 1st+april+1942&source=web&ots=s865PCSV7i&sig=BfrgwGLaRUN6BuPOjWmpkeP1XYc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result), New Guinea, which was the last remaining allied stronghold north of Australia. The first contingent flew up in transports on the 26th, and the pilots flew the P-39s up on the 28th. They encountered severe weather and lost 15 planes en route. It was a staggering blow to both Americans and Australians. Another 26 P-39s arrived safely on the 30th. ANECDOTE (http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Lyndon_B._Johnson#World_War_II)
The first combat mission (http://www.acepilots.com/pto/wagner.html) for the 36th PS took place on April (http://www.kensmen.com/apr42.html) 30, 1942. Tasked with a strafing mission at Lae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart) Salamaua, New Guinea (http://www.ameliaearhart.com/), the aircrews encountered 15 to 20 Japanese Zeros (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junichi_Sasai). The ensuing dogfight (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/sakai.html) lasted all the way back to Port Moresby. Two pilots of the 36th, Captain Paul G. Brown - CLICK http://www.sysopt.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1246289#post1246289) and Captain James J. Bevlock, were forced to land. Capt. Brown (http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozcrashes/qld134.htm) claimed probable destruction of one Zero. During the entire war, the 36th would lose 56 men (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/people/visitors/mayer/us-dog-tags.html) listed as killed (http://www.ww2f.com/information-requests/20950-p-40-ace-buzz-wagner-disappeared-65-years-ago-today.html) or missing (http://www.puzzleboxpress.com/PB%20Web%20Files/Remembering%20a%20Fallen%20Airman.pdf) in action.
From April through June 1942, more than 300 enemy planes flew sorties over Seven-Mile Drome in an effort to soften Allied defenses and eliminate Allied air power in that area, prior to a major Japanese invasion effort. The now redesignated 36th Fighter Squadron defended the Drome and claimed 21 enemy planes destroyed during 94 individual combat engagements. The squadron lost 10 planes, but five pilots were saved. Rations were destroyed for the most part and the aircrews lived on bread, jam and tea. 1st Lt. Donald G. McGee (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1440731&postcount=112) was credited with the squadron's first confirmed victory when he shot down a Zero over the Seven-Mile Drome on May 1, 1942. While the 36th FS was establishing its ground echelon force at Port Moresby, the battle of the Coral Sea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea) was underway. In this decisive naval engagement, the Japanese were rebuffed in their efforts to land an invasion force in the vicinity of Port Moresby (http://www.ww2australia.gov.au/japadvance/moresby.html), thereby marking the beginning of Allied efforts to stem the tide of Japanese conquest.
After three months of heavy combat operations, the pilots and ground crews of the 36th got some welcome relief from another squadron and returned to their former camp near Townsville. Some of the men were suffering from malaria and dengue fever. The reunion of the squadron at Townsville was a cause for great celebration. The kitchen was opened with coffee and sandwiches, a huge stack of mail was waiting to be opened, and in the middle of the room were three large barrels of beer…and the party ended at 3:00 AM.
The Japanese sent several planes to bomb Townsville (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/provinces/australia_townsville.html) in late July 1942. After the first incident, the pilots of the 36th took to the skies to defend the city. Unfortunately, local antiaircraft batteries made it very dangerous to pursue enemy aircraft. After closer coordination with ground forces, the 36th attacked the invaders (http://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfields/australia/garbutt/townsville-missions.html) on the night of August 1, 1942 (URL="http://www.ozatwar.com/ozatwar/mossman.htm) and sent the enemy planes hurtling to the ground in flames.
By September 1942 (http://www.kensmen.com/sep42.html) the 36th FS was located at Milne Bay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Milne_Bay), New Guinea, and equipped with P-39 Airacobras. They performed patrol and reconnaissance missions, escorted transports, protected Allied shipping to the area of Milne Bay, and during December 1942, patrolled the area between Port Moresby and Buna, New Guinea. Enemy opposition was encountered on only two occasions, the 7th and 28th of December. On the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor, Lt. George S. Welsh, ANECDOTE (http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Welch1.html) who had destroyed four enemy aircraft one year earlier, shot down three Japanese planes near Buna (http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/papuancamp/papcpn-fm.htm).
mireland
12-26-2008, 07:44 AM
oh do kindly shut up...:rolleyes:
herosrest
12-26-2008, 07:20 PM
I found this and thought it might cheer things along. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,933032,00.html
Monday, May. 24, 1943
Area of Agreement
General Motors Corp., long harassed by controversy over its Allison aircraft engine, last week distributed a booklet packaged in heavy cellophane, and titled: Airplane Power (with special reference to engines and altitudes). With the booklet was a note from G.M.'s genial Customer Research Director Henry Weaver: "After a long series of controversial sessions with our different engineering groups, aviation experts and military censors, we finally decided ... to omit everything on which the experts are not in full and complete agreement. The enclosed is the result. .. ."
The enclosed booklet consisted of a handsome cover picturing four Allison-powered planes (Lightning, Airacobra, Tomahawk, Mustang), a noncommittal introduction and conclusion, and 40 blank pages .
Co-incidence or fate.... :p
(Quote - Randy Sohn - Top Gun) I have told this many times before but be patient...We had a latrine built directly across the street from the club...it was the practice for the orderly to burn it out each morning. We also had a Rep from the Allison Corp that was lazy if I cared to put it mildly. It was his practice to gather up all of the newspapers in the club, amble across the street and proceed to seek relief. Well, this particular morning the orderly forgot the matches with which to light the fire to burn the latrine out..They dumped gasoline into the latrine in order to burn it out. Mr Rep, I have forgotten his name, gets all set up for a good mornings browse, and his cigarette, throws the match in the adjoining hole. This causes each lid to stand vertically from the concussion...He takes off across the flat, trousers at half mass, his bottom a cherry red, and his cigarette still unlit."
:t:D http://www.yoursantatoo.com/stock/hnoddingoff1.gif
Monday, May. 24, 1943
Area of Agreement
General Motors Corp., long harassed by controversy over its Allison aircraft engine, last week distributed a booklet packaged in heavy cellophane, and titled: Airplane Power (with special reference to engines and altitudes). With the booklet was a note from G.M.'s genial Customer Research Director Henry Weaver: "After a long series of controversial sessions with our different engineering groups, aviation experts and military censors, we finally decided ... to omit everything on which the experts are not in full and complete agreement. The enclosed is the result. .. ."
The enclosed booklet consisted of a handsome cover picturing four Allison-powered planes (Lightning, Airacobra, Tomahawk, Mustang), a noncommittal introduction and conclusion, and 40 blank pages .
Co-incidence or fate.... :p
(Quote - Randy Sohn - Top Gun) I have told this many times before but be patient...We had a latrine built directly across the street from the club...it was the practice for the orderly to burn it out each morning. We also had a Rep from the Allison Corp that was lazy if I cared to put it mildly. It was his practice to gather up all of the newspapers in the club, amble across the street and proceed to seek relief. Well, this particular morning the orderly forgot the matches with which to light the fire to burn the latrine out..They dumped gasoline into the latrine in order to burn it out. Mr Rep, I have forgotten his name, gets all set up for a good mornings browse, and his cigarette, throws the match in the adjoining hole. This causes each lid to stand vertically from the concussion...He takes off across the flat, trousers at half mass, his bottom a cherry red, and his cigarette still unlit."
:t:D http://www.yoursantatoo.com/stock/hnoddingoff1.gif
mireland
12-26-2008, 07:35 PM
happy new year...too bad the economy will suck.
herosrest
12-26-2008, 07:58 PM
lt won't ............... lt's not the western economies that are in trouble.
Right about 11/1 yer one horse, energy producers have a nasty li'l shock coming - trillions worth of it.
Right about 11/1 yer one horse, energy producers have a nasty li'l shock coming - trillions worth of it.
mireland
12-26-2008, 09:58 PM
lt won't ............... lt's not the western economies that are in trouble.
Right about 11/1 yer one horse, energy producers have a nasty li'l shock coming - trillions worth of it.
I wish I understood HALF of what you said...
Right about 11/1 yer one horse, energy producers have a nasty li'l shock coming - trillions worth of it.
I wish I understood HALF of what you said...
JackPols
02-26-2009, 06:58 AM
I can become a party to the conversation?
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 07:26 AM
I can become a party to the conversation?
Not if yer sellin cosmetics, cosmetics beauty, make up cosmetics as you led in with. :mad:
Go ahead, we ain't had a spammer to kick around for a while...not sayin yer a spammer...but if yas are. :D
Not if yer sellin cosmetics, cosmetics beauty, make up cosmetics as you led in with. :mad:
Go ahead, we ain't had a spammer to kick around for a while...not sayin yer a spammer...but if yas are. :D
mireland
02-26-2009, 07:57 AM
...not sayin yer a spammer...but if yas are. :D
I am! :mad:
I am! :mad:
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 08:11 AM
I am! :mad:
Well then kick his acre and shove some lipstick up his nose if yas so sure.
Smash his nadz flatter than silver dollars. :mad:
Well then kick his acre and shove some lipstick up his nose if yas so sure.
Smash his nadz flatter than silver dollars. :mad:
Spiritinthesky
02-26-2009, 08:15 AM
What is it?
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 08:15 AM
I can become a party to the conversation?
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/superyob/g0206.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/superyob/muttley.gif
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/superyob/g0206.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/superyob/muttley.gif
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 08:22 AM
What is it?
It is here for all to see. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG8K4kYTpG0)
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
It is here for all to see. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG8K4kYTpG0)
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
mireland
02-26-2009, 08:39 AM
this thread needs a hot pikki of sarah palin!
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 08:41 AM
this thread needs a hot pikki of sarah palin!
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/superyob/gal_palinb.jpg
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/superyob/gal_palinb.jpg
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 08:42 AM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/superyob/sabine5.jpg
mireland
02-26-2009, 08:43 AM
doable...absolutely doable...:D
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 08:46 AM
doable...absolutely doable...:D
She would end up shooting out a kid on ya. :D
She would end up shooting out a kid on ya. :D
mireland
02-26-2009, 08:46 AM
She would end up shooting out a kid on ya. :D
:eek:
:eek:
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 08:47 AM
She would end up shooting out a kid on ya. :D
Lando Palin, hmmm...ain't too strange of a name for the Palins. :t
Lando Palin, hmmm...ain't too strange of a name for the Palins. :t
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 08:49 AM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/superyob/Sarah-Palin-Vogue.jpg
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 08:57 AM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/superyob/039_70073Mary-Tyler-Moore-Posters.jpg
I used to have a thing for MTM when I was about 6-7 years old. She was fine.
PS Now she doesn't look so hot. :(
I used to have a thing for MTM when I was about 6-7 years old. She was fine.
PS Now she doesn't look so hot. :(
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 09:01 AM
I had a thing for Samantha too.
http://tvnewsreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/samantha.jpg
http://tvnewsreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/samantha.jpg
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 09:01 AM
I was a little perv. :D
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 09:07 AM
http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachments/resist-rebel/80129d1205270228-mary-ann-gilligans-island-caught-marijuana-car-3gi09.jpg
I liked Gilligan also. :D
http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/dawn_wells.jpg
:(
I liked Gilligan also. :D
http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/dawn_wells.jpg
:(
BadDriver
02-26-2009, 09:40 AM
http://www.cosmicconservative.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/elizabethmontgomery.jpg :D
herosrest
02-26-2009, 03:36 PM
04-26-2008, 03:30 PM For example........... searching current world oil production data on the marketed search engines throws up useful links to a plethora of sources.
However the data is varied and inconsistent.
Delving and digging the links simply illustrates that no one really knows the truth of the matter. 'Authoratative' and accepted sources are misleading in the detail they provide.
eg
____Figures indicate that total production is increasing. Hoorah.
Unfortunately the numbers include Liquid gas - which is where the actual increasing production is taking place. Try running yer motor on liquid gas. :p Boo. or is it Deja boo...............
So the data is misleading - like just about everything in modern day life. Hohum.
http://www.macarabia.net/forum/userpix/19_pablo_platypus_tapping_foot_lg_nwm_1.gifhttp://www.macarabia.net/forum/userpix/19_pablo_platypus_tapping_foot_lg_nwm_1.gifhttp://www.macarabia.net/forum/userpix/19_pablo_platypus_tapping_foot_lg_nwm_1.gif
Co-incidence or fate....
(Quote - Randy Sohn - Top Gun) I have told this many times before but be patient...We had a latrine built directly across the street from the club...it was the practice for the orderly to burn it out each morning. We also had a Rep from the Allison Corp that was lazy if I cared to put it mildly. It was his practice to gather up all of the newspapers in the club, amble across the street and proceed to seek relief. Well, this particular morning the orderly forgot the matches with which to light the fire to burn the latrine out..They dumped gasoline into the latrine in order to burn it out. Mr Rep, I have forgotten his name, gets all set up for a good mornings browse, and his cigarette, throws the match in the adjoining hole. This causes each lid to stand vertically from the concussion...He takes off across the flat, trousers at half mass, his bottom a cherry red, and his cigarette still unlit."
However the data is varied and inconsistent.
Delving and digging the links simply illustrates that no one really knows the truth of the matter. 'Authoratative' and accepted sources are misleading in the detail they provide.
eg
____Figures indicate that total production is increasing. Hoorah.
Unfortunately the numbers include Liquid gas - which is where the actual increasing production is taking place. Try running yer motor on liquid gas. :p Boo. or is it Deja boo...............
So the data is misleading - like just about everything in modern day life. Hohum.
http://www.macarabia.net/forum/userpix/19_pablo_platypus_tapping_foot_lg_nwm_1.gifhttp://www.macarabia.net/forum/userpix/19_pablo_platypus_tapping_foot_lg_nwm_1.gifhttp://www.macarabia.net/forum/userpix/19_pablo_platypus_tapping_foot_lg_nwm_1.gif
Co-incidence or fate....
(Quote - Randy Sohn - Top Gun) I have told this many times before but be patient...We had a latrine built directly across the street from the club...it was the practice for the orderly to burn it out each morning. We also had a Rep from the Allison Corp that was lazy if I cared to put it mildly. It was his practice to gather up all of the newspapers in the club, amble across the street and proceed to seek relief. Well, this particular morning the orderly forgot the matches with which to light the fire to burn the latrine out..They dumped gasoline into the latrine in order to burn it out. Mr Rep, I have forgotten his name, gets all set up for a good mornings browse, and his cigarette, throws the match in the adjoining hole. This causes each lid to stand vertically from the concussion...He takes off across the flat, trousers at half mass, his bottom a cherry red, and his cigarette still unlit."
BadDriver
07-17-2009, 05:30 PM
Ahhh, the days before the girlie pic ban. :(
Shoreguy
07-17-2009, 05:48 PM
You're so bored you're gravedigging posts of pics you could easily find outside this place if you weren't trolling for attention? Get a cyberlife...google pron ffs.
BadDriver
07-17-2009, 05:54 PM
You're so bored you're gravedigging posts of pics you could easily find outside this place if you weren't trolling for attention? Get a cyberlife...google pron ffs.
Shut up O one that got girlie pics banned. :rolleyes:
Shut up O one that got girlie pics banned. :rolleyes:
j.m@talk
07-17-2009, 05:56 PM
YEAH ....... Shorefag ;)
herosrest
07-17-2009, 06:44 PM
Is there yet a definition of what constitutes a picture that should not be posted to topics, thus it can by slight and twicerwy be circumvented.
j.m@talk
07-17-2009, 06:48 PM
Ahh Jonsey throws his toys outta his prambulator usually ............ I wouldn't bother ;)
mireland
07-17-2009, 06:51 PM
http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/poster58122126.jpg
Shoreguy
07-18-2009, 12:21 AM
Shut up O one that got girlie pics banned. :rolleyes:
:D
YEAH ....... Shorefag
wouldn't that be an oxymoron?
:D
YEAH ....... Shorefag
wouldn't that be an oxymoron?
j.m@talk
07-18-2009, 10:11 AM
Wivout the Oxy yeah ;)
herosrest
07-19-2009, 08:05 PM
Oh er! bad news chaps........... lets just slip it out Sunday, late morning when no-one anywhere watches tv. Cooooool.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8157876.stm
The UK economy is set to shrink by 4.5% in this year, the biggest fall in a single year since 1945, according to an influential think-tank.
The downbeat forecast is more pessimistic than the consensus view, and considerably worse than the 3.5% fall predicted by the government.
The Ernst & Young Item Club also warned that hopes of economic recovery are "running ahead of reality".
Try adding a 1 in front of the 4.5%........... tell it like it is. Whoops, you've an election to win. hehe.
Newsflash.......... the economy won't help yaz.
Sell, when your IQ hits 28.:p
http://my.opera.com/herosrest/sendcard/combo.pl?id=7412734&frame=023.png (http://files.myopera.com/herosrest/albums/634358/jackbig.jpg)
http://files.myopera.com/herosrest/albums/215106/love-05.gif
It just gets really messy. ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8157876.stm
The UK economy is set to shrink by 4.5% in this year, the biggest fall in a single year since 1945, according to an influential think-tank.
The downbeat forecast is more pessimistic than the consensus view, and considerably worse than the 3.5% fall predicted by the government.
The Ernst & Young Item Club also warned that hopes of economic recovery are "running ahead of reality".
Try adding a 1 in front of the 4.5%........... tell it like it is. Whoops, you've an election to win. hehe.
Newsflash.......... the economy won't help yaz.
Sell, when your IQ hits 28.:p
http://my.opera.com/herosrest/sendcard/combo.pl?id=7412734&frame=023.png (http://files.myopera.com/herosrest/albums/634358/jackbig.jpg)
http://files.myopera.com/herosrest/albums/215106/love-05.gif
It just gets really messy. ;)
mireland
07-19-2009, 08:10 PM
http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/1_2_3_step_copy.jpg
herosrest
07-19-2009, 08:12 PM
Time to sell.................. :D :t:t
werz
07-20-2009, 08:06 AM
Time to sell.................. :D :t:t
Sell what? Do you think they've left us with anything worth selling.
But nevermind, things are looking up for Obama, Goldman and Sachs have made their biggest quarterly profit ever, and it's execs are looking like getting $20mil bonuses again.
Sell what? Do you think they've left us with anything worth selling.
But nevermind, things are looking up for Obama, Goldman and Sachs have made their biggest quarterly profit ever, and it's execs are looking like getting $20mil bonuses again.
j.m@talk
07-20-2009, 08:44 AM
JM pops up wiv a Megaphone ..........(ICF Henchman stylee) "Buarsssssstarrrrrrrds" ......(In the tune of the banana splits) "One a yuppie two a yuppie three a yuppie four .......... four yuppies lying on the floor ........... Stab me wiv a knife, shootem' wiv a gun .......... Were goin' yuppie bashin' isn't it fun ...... la la laaaaaaa la la la laaaaaaaaaaaaa" :D
Cnuts :mad:
Cnuts :mad:
mireland
07-20-2009, 08:46 AM
this thread sucks. bites. blows. :rolleyes:
BadDriver
07-20-2009, 09:12 PM
To the tune of Jesus loves me.
"I went to the tavern the other night
Me and Lando got in a fight
As soon as he walked in the the saloon door
I smacked him in the teeth with a two by four. :mad:
Yes Lando hates me, yes Lando hates me, yes Lando hates me
Because JM tells me so.
"I went to the tavern the other night
Me and Lando got in a fight
As soon as he walked in the the saloon door
I smacked him in the teeth with a two by four. :mad:
Yes Lando hates me, yes Lando hates me, yes Lando hates me
Because JM tells me so.
mireland
07-20-2009, 09:38 PM
To the tune of Jesus loves me.
"I went to the tavern the other night
Me and Lando got in a fight
As soon as he walked in the the saloon door
I smacked him in the teeth with a two by four. :mad:
Yes Lando hates me, yes Lando hates me, yes Lando hates me
Because JM tells me so.
you smoking weed right now?:rolleyes:
"I went to the tavern the other night
Me and Lando got in a fight
As soon as he walked in the the saloon door
I smacked him in the teeth with a two by four. :mad:
Yes Lando hates me, yes Lando hates me, yes Lando hates me
Because JM tells me so.
you smoking weed right now?:rolleyes:
BadDriver
07-20-2009, 09:44 PM
Not right now. Earlier I was. :D
Today is me birthday...I am old. ;)
Today is me birthday...I am old. ;)
mireland
07-20-2009, 10:25 PM
Not right now. Earlier I was. :D
Today is me birthday...I am old. ;)
should we cut you in half and count the rings? :D
Today is me birthday...I am old. ;)
should we cut you in half and count the rings? :D
BadDriver
07-20-2009, 10:31 PM
Nah, I ain't quite that old. 50 today. Kind of a bummer. No more 40 something. :rolleyes:
j.m@talk
07-21-2009, 08:05 AM
At least you can get "Old Coots" insurance now fer yas Truk :D
BadDriver
07-21-2009, 12:55 PM
At least you can get "Old Coots" insurance now fer yas Truk :D
You ain't too far behind ya know. :rolleyes:
You ain't too far behind ya know. :rolleyes:
Shoreguy
07-21-2009, 01:39 PM
You ain't too far behind ya know. :rolleyes:
You'll die first...what's left of your heart will surrender as well.
You'll die first...what's left of your heart will surrender as well.
j.m@talk
07-21-2009, 03:02 PM
If stupidity was a disease he would of died from it years ago :D
Anyone know how to stop crackle finish on yas auto painting ?....... I know why it occurs, I just don't know what to do then :(
Anyone know how to stop crackle finish on yas auto painting ?....... I know why it occurs, I just don't know what to do then :(
werz
07-21-2009, 03:05 PM
If stupidity was a disease he would of died from it years ago :D
Anyone know how to stop crackle finish on yas auto painting ?....... I know why it occurs, I just don't know what to do then :(No.
Anyone know how to stop crackle finish on yas auto painting ?....... I know why it occurs, I just don't know what to do then :(No.
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