new build, no video need help

[laurie]

Assembled new system yesterday. No video.
Unassembled and tested mobo outside of
case. Got the fans to work and the green
light comes on on the mobo. Then inserted
the video card and still no video! Reset
the cmos, still no video.

No beeps, but no sound card installed either.
stats:
soyo sy 6ba+111
366 celeron pretested at 550 installed
on slot one kit.
128 micron cas 2 8ns
diamond stealth 32 video
generic case.

any help would be most appreciated

thanks
laurie

[Nathan G]

AGP or PCI video card?? Is Bios setup for wichever it it is(agp/pci) ?? Did you remove all other cards/driv cables from MB? Try a different slot if its PCI. Got another video card for a quick test? have you tried running at default speed (366MHz) ?

[This message has been edited by Nathan G (edited 12-26-1999).]

[laurie]

Nathan,

All drives are disconnected. Only have
the cpu, memory, video and the case
connections.

The video is an agp card. Diamon stealth
32mbs.

According to the soyo manual, it is a jumperless mobo. So I can't see where to
set any jumpers for the cpu speed until
I have video to use the cd rom that came
with the board.

Any suggestions?
laurie

[richamies]

Are there any POST beeps if the memory is removed?

Is it possible to try the slotkit in another system as the CPU is tested and apparently fine?

The mobo isn't shorting on the case anywhere or anything is it?

[Nathan G]

Try removing all Case connections except power on switch (its along shot, but worth a try).
Umm another video card. , got an old PCI video card sitting around? Are all fans spinning, cpu/ps when it is powered on?

[This message has been edited by Nathan G (edited 12-26-1999).]

[laurie]

We get no beeps at all. No sound card
installed yet.

Can't test anything since my old computer
(which I am using is) is a pent100 about
5 years old.

We have removed the mobo, and reinstalled
on the brass offsets, 6 in total......
can's see anything else touching it.

anything else you want us to check?

tia
laurie

[Nathan G]

Snag that video card out of the 100MHz for a test! dont tell me its ISA http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

[laurie]

We tested the mobo outside the case with
just video card and only the connection
to the power supply. No Video.

Last night tried the pci video card from
this old system,, no video.. but then
reading more in the Soyo book it looks
like you have to reset for pci while in
their utility. Which of course ya gotta
have video! arrrrghhhhh.

Also cleared the cmos jumpers....

Now we have reinstalled just the cpu (without
the global win fan), 1 stick of memory,
video card..... now the hard drive...

No video or beeps....

are there places that will test components?

thanks
laurie

[Nathan G]

Its Starting to sound like a defective MBor slot converter... sorry i am stumped. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/redface.gif

[This message has been edited by Nathan G (edited 12-26-1999).]

[richamies]

When I furst built my system I had the same symptoms, I eventually found out that the memory was set to the wrong speed.

Is there a speaker in the case? The mobo would use that for the POST beeps wouldnt it?

A dead mobo and a dead CPU quite often give the same symptoms, as the CPU is known to be good, it could be the slotkit. It could even be the memory! It would be handy if you had a friend/colleague who was willing to let you try your components in his/her machine.

Just a last resort but you are trying this system at the standard speed and bus settings arent you?

[Nathan G]

Richamies: wouldnt it beep like crazy with bad ram ?? (as long as speaker is plugged into MB)
I am not try to be a wise azz,just wondering?? I havnt had alot of exposure to bad RAM http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif knock,knock

[richamies]

Not neccesarily, I have had machines that have done typical IBM POST beeps because of memory.

I think it has been long beep, 3 short beeps, pause, then a single short beep.

Come to think of it I have seen faulty mobo's giving a long constant beep too.

[This message has been edited by richamies (edited 12-26-1999).]

[laurie]

I didn't change any setting on the
mobo. I don't think I can until
I get video. This is a jumperless mobo
and all the manual say's is to write down
the speed of the cpu. Then once you are
up an running, with soyos cdrom, then
you change speeds for the cpu and fbs.

no beeps at all. We connected the speaker
connection on the case to the connection
on the mobo......

Trying to find someone, who is at home, and
has a atx to test. If not, are there places
that test components?

I am in the san diego ca area.

thanks
laurie - who is ready to jump off the
coronado bridge with this **** pc!

[richamies]

Laurie - cant help you with testing equipment I'm affraid, unless you fancy a trip to England http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif

[laurie]

Thanks for all your help.

Think it's time for a break and to
drown my sorrows in some wine....:-)

Will reread the manual again for any
info on the few jumpers this board came
with. Geesh, why do they send the info
on cd...which you can't use until you
have video Or download. It is so slow
to use my downloaded copy on this ol
pc... but then ... at least this old slow
lil 100 is up and running! :-)))

Wish I could hop a plane to england fer sure!

hugs
laurie

[Darwin2]

laurie,

I'm having the same problem with my blasted project.

I assembled all of the hardware, and when i fire the computer up I get a black screen - the computer will not POST, the monitor clicks on - green, then clicks to orange. The keyboard does not flash. The CPU fans are running and the video card fan is running. The Hard Drive humms away - but no video, and no beeps. I've stripped it down to just the Mobo, CPU, RAM and video card - no beeps. I've tried a PCI card, changing the RAM to different DIMM sockets...but no luck!

I have an ABIT BE6-II MB that is jumperless and the user is required to use the BIOS setup menu, but you need video to do so.
My current PC is a dinosaur - 6 yo IBM 486, so I can't try my hardware individually on another system.

Here is my setup:

ABIT BE6-II MB
IBM 20.5 GB Deskstar HD
Diamond Viper 770 Ultra 32MB VC (AGP)
Sound Blaster LIVE Value SC
128MB Toshiba PC-100 SDRAM
Addtronics 3890A Case

Any help is greatly appreciated.

[GTGUY]

Just a thought. I don't want to scare you into throwing the board away. But one day I was just putting a new floppy drive into a friends of mine computer and I guess I had a lot of static electricity built up, I don't know the exact cause but none the less the motherboard was fried.

The reason I am replying is that when I turned the computer on I got no video signal I worked and worked on it swaping out the video card still not luck. Finally I broke down and took it to a very reliable computer store. The computer tech person said that he ran some test and sure enough it was fried. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/frown.gif

Again this is just a thought.

[Mattyb]

Is there a jumper to clear the cmos on the board and is it set to the default rather than clear. If it is set to clear and you power up all systems will whine like its working but there will be no video. Its also possible that you have the wrong bios for the board to coincide with the cpu (especially new model cpu's with older mobos). Check the home page of your brand of mobo and see if they have any suggestions for the correct bios and how to load (flash). Could be you need a newer version bios to fix the problem.

[Darwin2]

I checked the CMOS discharge jumper and it is set to default for normal operation.

The BE6-II has a DIP switch for setting CPU frequency and AGP frequency. If it is tuned ON then Soft Menu III is disabled.

I tried manual setting this way, but same response occurred.

Also, if Mobo is fried would the CPU fan and video card fan run as is the case with my Mobo? It seems that these are dependent upon the Mobo being functional... the ordeal continues....

[jad1097]

I have a soyo mobo and it is very particular on were you put the sdram.I am not sure if your board is the same and I am not sure what will happen if you get it wrong. Just a thought.

[BBA]

Try the basics again...

Remove the floppy cable

Remove the IDE cables

Remove all cards except video.

Make sure the power supply case voltage is selected to the proper setting (if in USA, it needs to be on 110/115V)

Try it...if nogo, put the ram in a different slot and try again.

Make sure you have no metal contacting the backside of the motherboard from mounting it...make sure that if insulating washers are given in your case kit, you use them.

A hundred things other than a bad motherboard can cause this problem...the least of which can simply be compatibility of ram or video card to the particular board...I've seen this twice where a video card that worked perfectly on one PC would not work on another, same with ram!

Just keep trying until you are forced to get a RMA number!

[laurie]

Hello all,

FINALLY GOT IT! It was those dang
jumper8 combined with when to
reset the cmos jumper! Finally got
it right and it is working..

Also had to push very very hard on
agp card and slot1 adapter kit.

Sorry it has taken all day to get back to
you all but after getting the **** thing
up and running I was stuck for hours
finding, loading and getting the stupid
diamond modem drivers set up in win98/


Geesh... I will never do this again....;-)

But after a good nites rest perhaps
a soyo board guru will assist in overclocking
this celery 366 pretested at 550???
Pretty please??????

mucho hugs
laurie

[Nathan G]

Very glad to see you got your new toy up-n-running.. welcome to install h-e-double hockey sticks! please explain what that magic Jumper8 combo was??
Please dont think you wont ever do this again!! Havent you learned plenty, which is rewarding in itself!!...Think how much easier it will be next time! And now you know your system harware. (a little too well maybe http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif ) I think building your own PC removes some of the "mystery" from that box you cwe call a "computer". Having this knowledge will help one day , sooner than you think, believe it! (said 4 days before 2000)
Congrats on figuring it out!!
BBA: Good one about the AC mains voltage switch.. I had forgot all about that, and i LIVED IT for a couple hours (did have same symptoms) http://www.sysopt.com/forum/redface.gif Geez i felt stupid .. i had the system in a million pieces.hehe


[This message has been edited by Nathan G (edited 12-27-1999).]

[laurie]

Good Morning Nathan,

That jumper8 was for setting the fsb which
needed to be 66. Just as Richames advised
to be double checked, but I just didn't get it. I kept thinking
that to overclock this cele366 it was
to be set to 100fsb. Stupid me for not
realizing THAT setting was to be done it
the bios and not the mobo! I knew this
somewhere in the back o my feeble mind, but
with all the other possiblities/problems (like a fried mobo) I just didn't get it!

Did you say your's is up and running now?

Thanks to ALL of you for being there.
Will let you know when I get the nerve
try overclocking!

hugs
laurie