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while trying to intall a different sound card on my computer somehow I deleted D:\cdrom at bootup it shows the drivers but in my computer C:\ is there A:\ is there but no D:\. if anyone can help I would be thankful.ps I have win 98 32fat. thanks Ken
Pantion
12-09-1999, 01:19 PM
How exactly did you do to erase it?
You can make Win98 re-autodetect it by deleting it from Device Manager list and rebooting.
You shouldn't need any real-mode drivers on autoexec.bat and/or config.sys unless you are planning to use MS-DOS mode for some apps.
Banti
12-10-1999, 12:27 AM
Was D: your CD? Is your CDROM really old??
Is it IDE or SCSI? If the drive is not too old (made in the last five years or so) Win98 should detect it without the need of drivers.
Sorry but I need more info in order to help.
I think that I lost my d:\ drive when I put in an Audio driver 95 disk over my 98 program everything is booting up through a931 OPTI 3d audio. as it stands in conflict shared resources irq 12 states sis 5597/5598 and irq holder for pci steering...I have no device D:\cdrom to reconize listed in my system or in mycomputer it has completely either moved the file or over written it ...I am stumped HELP!!!!! thanks Ken ps :cdrom is 32speed newer model
[This message has been edited by nek (edited 12-10-1999).]
Pantion
12-11-1999, 12:23 AM
Hmm... well then remove the sound card drivers and all traces of it from the computer and do the same thing for the CD-ROM. Reboot your computer and let windows autodetect your hardware and install the newest drivers for the sound card.
If they are still IRQ conflicts then change the sound card's setting to use free resources or free some by deactivating unused stuff like serial ports, assgining irq to usb (if you are not using usb devices), etc.
Well nothing seems to work winfile does not list D:\drive at startup d:\ has no address need to figure out how to put and address in for it any Ideas will be appreciated...thanks Ken
grandslammer
12-12-1999, 11:47 AM
Yeah, go to control panel. Add/remove programs.
Okay, first, do you have a win9X startup disk? If so, then pop it in your floppy drive. Restart computer. When it comes to the menu, tell it to start your computer with CD-ROM support. Then when you get to an A: prompt, type in C: then enter. Then type in WIN, and badda boom, badda bing! You should be good to go.
If you don't have a startup disk, then make one. Go to your control panel, add/remove programs. Startup disk, create disk. If there is an option to include CD-ROM support, then select it. If not, then it should be in there.
After that, follow the instructions above.
Hope this helps...
Let me know, okay?
Mike P.
[This message has been edited by grandslammer (edited 12-12-1999).]
grandslammer
12-12-1999, 02:52 PM
DOH!
I guess not!
Oopss! Sorry.
Check your mail, that should help you.
Make sure, when you get access to your cd rom back, go to control panel, and like above, make a new win startup disk so you'll have it SPECIFIC to your computer next time.
Are you running Norton Utilities or Nuts and Bolts or anything like that? They offer to make rescue disks for you too.
Good Luck...
Mike P.
Pantion
12-12-1999, 03:05 PM
Check your mail and post if it worked or not... if it doesn't well post your CD-ROM model and manufacturer and I can make you a boot disk that will only load to MS-DOS mode with the CD-ROM drivers of your drive. If the drive is found and works then it is Win9x.
And as cold as it may sound you may have to reinstall win9x, since some of the many many many bla bla files that windows use may have been corrupted, deleted, replaced, etc. and to find them whew! it would be a really difficult task.
[This message has been edited by Pantion (edited 12-12-1999).]
grandslammer
12-12-1999, 05:44 PM
Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools, System Information.
Tools, Version Conflict Manager. If there are any files that have been replaced with earlier versions of themselves, they show up here, and offer to let you install the "newer" ones. When done here, click on the "X" to close.
Then click on tool, system file checker. Select scan for altered files. Follow the prompts.
Finally, close that. Then click on tools, registry checker. If that finds no problems, then your WinDOZE is most likely cool.
Did you try the new startup disk yet?
Hope all gets back to norm for you...
Mike P.
I have win 98 start-up disk but I cannot create a new one because I have no access to my cdrom drive and when I put in the start-up disk I have it just starts up window's normally and still no D:\drive access now what ?
yes I finally started up with a start disk and chose the option to load with cdrom support...guess what? it did not work it froze up in the middle of loading had to go back to cmos setup and load optimal performance to boot again...is there any problems if I uninstall win 98 and reinstall..I don't know that will work either..my system is a CyrixInstead 6x86mx..
at start up is say's: UNIT 0 BASE address 170
Drive 0 IDE....for my cdrom...yikes I am confused now!!! Thanks Ken
Susan
12-13-1999, 01:23 PM
Acer?
www.acercomponents.com/tech/download/cdrom/ (http://www.acercomponents.com/tech/download/cdrom/)
Here's a universal driver too.
www.newclearsoft.com/ncs/driver/cdrom/uni_dri_cd.htm (http://www.newclearsoft.com/ncs/driver/cdrom/uni_dri_cd.htm)
[This message has been edited by Susan (edited 12-13-1999).]
Dave_H
12-13-1999, 08:12 PM
Ken,
The last thing I want to do is jump in and add any confusion, but I have been following this thread with interest. What really bothers me is the part about what it reads on start up, "UNIT 0 Base......DRIVE 0 IDE"
Of course I don't know what it used to read,
but this dosent sound right to me.
A couple of questions if you don't mind.
Do you think that the bios is detecting your drive properly?
This would explain why the start-up disc did not work or why windows won't recognize it.
Also, you never stated how this drive is installed. Is this drive connected to a sound card?
Sorry everyone for interrupting.
Dave
WELL I WENT TO WINDOWS TOOLS SYSTEM Checker and it found 3 files that were changed so I tried to put the files back with restore but guess what now....no cdrom to intall the changed files with and no where to find them on the c: drive or A:drive with boot disk or recover disk from norton....shoot
CMonster
12-14-1999, 12:07 AM
Two things come to mind:
1. best point brought up by the last post, if your CDROM is connected improperly that could be your problem. Is the cable backwards? If you have onboard dual chanel IDE (primary and secondary) do not use the IDE connector on the sound card. Attach the CDROM as secondary Master, or you can even slave it to the hard disk on the primary IDE.
2. If you have the dual onboard IDE, as mentioned, then just enabling the sound card's IDE can cause a conflict - reinstall the sound card drivers and choose "NO" when it asks if you are going to attach a CDROM. This sound card's drivers overwrite your autoexec.bat and config.sys files and the entry for default IDE port 168 and IRQ15 may be confusing your system. Also check the device manager for a conflict on the IDE disk controler - or one too many IDE controlers.
good luck
Pantion
12-14-1999, 12:16 AM
The problem seems more difficult that it looks to be, since you are on a dead end, becasue many of the solutions posted here requires the Win98 CD...
Hmm... well tell me which is the brand of your cd and I'll send you the files for a floppy specifically for your drive. Try to boot with it.
Another approach would be writte the cabs that Win98 ask you for and I can send them to you, but be ware they will be big files!
my cdrom is a 32x AKU....by the way I do have a complete set of 95win setup floppy disks I have no idea of how to clear the system and start over again if nessecary just an Idea let me know what you think.. Thanks Ken
Pantion
12-14-1999, 12:37 AM
Are you sure it's AKU? Can't find it...
If you want to totally clean your system just format the HDD. Be sure to save any files you want to keep first!
Dave_H
12-14-1999, 01:49 PM
Ken,
Try to follow CMonster's advice and get your CD-Rom working Independant of any IDE cards.
After that, you will have no problems with adding or removing card in the future.
I would try the following. Remove cd-rom and
sound card from device manager, turn-off computer. open the computer and phisically remove the sound card and plug the cd-rom cable to the motherboard (see CMonsters post)
Turn on computer, let windows find cd-rom and test to make sure it's working.
If working, turn off computer and install
new sound card. turn on computer and let windows install the sound card, install the proper driver(s) if necessary.
You probobly have a seperate modem you need to install, Right? If so do the same thing
to install the modem.
I found that for me it is easier to install one piece of hardware at a time so that I can make sure it's working before I add something else.
If all else fails, you already know how to put everything back "the old way" to get it to work.
Go for it! http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Dave
(edit) Ken before you start, you may want to wait and let others comment on my sugesstions
to see if they have a better way. Or if I am overlooking something here.
[This message has been edited by Dave_H (edited 12-14-1999).]
Pantion
12-14-1999, 07:03 PM
Yeap seems like you were left with no other choice, but start from zero. Take the guidelines that Dave remarked, since it is far batter to begin with only enough stuff to make the computer boot and install windows.
Then try it for a while and no wierd problems pop-up add another thing and so on 'till everything is up and running as it should.
Post your results... whew! this had been one of the most wacko post I have seen.
aaron2b
12-14-1999, 08:00 PM
Try this, click start run type regedit, to to edit click fine, type noide, if it finds it, delete the value to the left, also go to the preformance tab and make sure your system is not operating in msdos compablity mode. If it is operating in msdos mode, make sure that you donot have anything loading in autoexec.bat and config.sys,
I would Like to thank the many of you that helped me with my problem....I found out that when I plugged in the old modem\soundcard that my d:\ was mapped through it and is now working..now the only problem that I have is I bought a new sound card how will I install it and is ther a way to remove that modem without loosing my d:\ drive again?
my computer is running in dos compatiblity mode in both c and d drives now what to I do I read the help and it sure is not clear how to clear it up...I show no conflicting drivers anywhere other than in shared resources which is sharing sis 5597/5598 and IRQ Holder for PCI steering.....augh now what? thanks again. I do have my D:\ back but I had to leave in the old modem that doesn't work so I have two intalled at this moment..anymore Ideas? thanks Ken
EVGTech
12-18-1999, 01:56 AM
WOW!!! this is all messed up.
thats a 36x aku isnt it? It's a UDMA cdrom. you dont want to run that through a sound card. daisy chain it with the hard drive or better yet plug it all by itself into the secondary ide channel on the MB. get that other stuff out of there.
pull out the modem the sound card and all that stuff and run with just the cdom and hard drives. this will help narrow down the problem.
check your config.sys for a cdrom driver. remark it out.
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