PC Lockup

[DakotaJim1]

I just took my old computer that was a 75 meg
hz. and tryed to put a new motherboard in and
a 166meg.hz.cpu. I compleatly cleaned my hard
drive and installed win 98.no other programs
just windows. took out modem and sound card.
The problum is thet every time i boot the
computer it locks up in windows as soon as
i try to open any part of the desk top.

Any help would be great.
Thank you very much.

[commodsquad]

Hi Jim,
More info is needed like what mobo, specs, etc...It's way too hard to troubleshoot probs when questions being asked are too general and specific details are left out that sometimes could be the key to turn the tide of the situation towards a successful solution....

[DakotaJim1]

Commodsquad Thank`s for the reply. My motherboard is a 8500TTD as far as the spec.
i don`t know what you are asking for.
CPU--- Pentium Micropressor P54/CT/CS/CQS
I have a Pentium 166 mhz Non MMX.
Supports CPU buss clock 55/60/66 mhz.
The Bios is setup at defalt setings.
Supports 27.5/30/33mhz PCI buss speed
I/O Clock 8MHz for isa buss.
Plat Form AT

[commodsquad]

Well my first question would be...
have you considered cooling to be an issue?
good heatsink and fan is always a good idea even at stock settings..
what about video and driver settings?? is it onboard or a card?
have you triple checked the jumper configuration on the board or is it a soft menu so you can check out the processor config?
memory compatability or failure also comes to mind to check also...
Just some suggested avenues to check..
not sure if I helped tho....

[Susan]

That's a Biostar TX Chipset MB.

What video card are you running?

[Nathan G]

were you running Win98 before??
Have you tried re-installing OS??
How much RAM do you have?
Did you reformat HD??
Can you boot in safe mode?
You do have a heatsink w fan on that CPU, DONT you?
Sorry ... questions rather than answers but these are all things i would consider.

[DakotaJim1]

Commodsquad
I donot think it is a heat prob. I have a CPU fan.Video ?? Have old Card and donot know Settings How can i check? Triple checked
jumpers Settings.


Susan
I have an old card from old system.
Donot know what kind card it is.
How can i check?


Nathan
Had win. 95 But i reformated HDD and installed win.98 Had no prob. installing it.
Only after win was installed. Locks up in safe mode.


Thanks To all

[commodsquad]

there should be some serial or card version numbers on the card somewhere maybe a sticker with some info on it or silkscreened onto the board itself..is it a pci card isa?
i know im not being much help right now
and it seems like im more full of questions than answers..

[Ygor]

Hiya Dakota!

Your cpu bus should be set to 66 mhz for the pentium to run right.

When you removed the ram and put it in the new board, were you careful to ground yourself? Static electricity could have zapped it if you weren't.

Is all your ram registering at bootup?

[DakotaJim1]

Commodsquad
My Video card is a Prolink Chip set CL-GD54M30 and another # is MVGA-CLM30P


Ygor
My board is set for 166Mhz and Buss at
66Mhz X 2 1/2.And all Ram Registering.

Thanks for the Reply

[Nathan G]

.. check out all jumpers/Ram location on your MB , including CPU core and I/O voltage jumpers on MB. Here is info: http://www.biostar-usa.com/museum/Motherboards/8500TTD/8500ttdtech.htm may i ask again... how much Ram do you have installed? You didnt by chance mix speeds of RAM within a common bank did you?
ever considered trying 95b instead as a last resort?? (ensure something with the 98 install isnt the problem)


king-o-edits



[This message has been edited by Nathan G (edited 12-11-1999).]

[DakotaJim1]

Nathan
Thanks for the link I checked the info. to my book all info was correct and checked jumpers on board all was good. As far as Ram I have 40mb.I have 2-16 in Bank 0 And 2- 4 in Bank 1. I had the Same Prob. with win95.
befor I reformatted HHD.and load win98.
That`s wye i cleand HHD. Win95 was upgrade from win 3.11 so i cleand all programs to reduse any conflicks.

Thank`s for all your help
DakotaJim

[Nathan G]

Have you tried "fishing" through the BIOS? looking for possible incorrect settings (disable Bussmastering, DMA, increase RAM latency settings).. Umm try just one pair of RAM at a time (maybe one is flaky)... Unplug cables from CD-rom for a quick test as well.
Yeah i am shot-gunning you. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Was this CPU/MB new??
How bout one of you "Senior" members or even a "Ultimate" . I will hold the door for ya an even get your walking cane!! hehe http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif


[This message has been edited by Nathan G (edited 12-12-1999).]

[Susan]

The worst part of your problem is that you cannot even get into WIN in Safe Mode, which leads me to think you have a Video or jumper problem on the board.

Try switching the video card to another slot, and also, I know you've checked all the jumpers more than once, but physically remove the jumpers and reinstall them.

[Alzarius]

That's funny as I have the exact same memory setup in my other computer. 2 16 meg chips and 2 4 meg chips. They are both FPM memory too. Anyway, that graphics card should be a Cirrus Logic card. Unless the card is bad, I would find it unlikely that it would cause lockups like that. A setting change could cause them, but if it has been doing it for a while with no apparent "cause" then... It's quite possible that something that is being loaded by Windows in normal and safe mode is causing the problem. I had loaded the Diskwizard for my Seagate drive when I had a 486. Well, it added a line in one of the startup files that made it load in 16 bit mode. Windows did NOT like that and locked up everytime. I had to manually remove that line(found it by pressing F8 at startup and making it run through every program it wanated to load.) from the win.ini or one of those files before Windows would load again. I'm not saying you have this file, but you may have something that Windows put on your computer that your computer does NOT like.

[DakotaJim1]

Commodsquad,Susan,nathan

NEW Break i did what susan said and tryed to put the video card in a nother slot,and it came up that it deteacted a new video card that was installed. computer is doing better but there is a still a glich.

all works well except when i minimize a window it still lock`s up.any help in this area?

Thank`s for all of your help!!!!!!