New technology to kill Sony's PS3

[chriswhitelaw]

I was watching Attack of the Show on G4 and they were talking about Sony's new PS3 not letting you play "borrowed" "rented" or "used" games. It's bad enough they have the price at $600 but now this. What is Sony thinking?

[MadPistol]

linky?

[chriswhitelaw]

sorry Mr. Mad no link for it. It was on tonight's episode of Attack of the Show on G4 TV

[MadPistol]

Darn. Well if it is true, then I guess I'll be spending that hard earned $600 for either Wii games or new computer components.

[delRhode]

If only some rumors would die and stay decently dead...

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060526-6929.html

[JediOfDarkness]

Honestly that's got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard... how would the system know that the game has been played in another system? Maybe by writing to the game disc? But then that would imply that the PS3 would have Bluray RW capabilites and that the game discs would be unlocked. And even if it did, that would have a major impact in sales, and Sony knows it and would never do anything like that.

[Phil2k3]

bah who cares, I never rented games anyways. However that doesn't really make sense to me...why supply the video stores with ps3 game when you can't even play them?

The ps3 will dominate in the end. The standalone bluray compatibility kicks major ***.

[CrazyCrusher]

bah who cares, I never rented games anyways. However that doesn't really make sense to me...why supply the video stores with ps3 game when you can't even play them?

The ps3 will dominate in the end. The standalone bluray compatibility kicks major ***.

So you never bought a game from eBay? or from someone for cheaper? Bluray kicks ***? How so? if anyone went and bought a system that will not allow you to do what Chris Posted, (know pun intended) would be a stupid purchase simple as that.

[orkboss]

I buy most of my PS2 games from ebay.

[Phil2k3]

I don't use ebay. I buy all my games brandnew, so the above doesn't really affect me. Bluray disk players cost (in the moment) over $1000, and the premium edition ps3 will cost $600, so I personally think that's a pretty good purchase. Plus a 60 gig HD is included. You can also view digi cam pics, browse the internet, and much much more. Just my side of things. Not that you all care anyways. I just think a machine so powerful is worth that kind of money. In reality, the price of that thing should be well over 1000$, but we are lucky to get it for a lot less.

[orkboss]

I am poor

[JediOfDarkness]

I buy a lot of games from ebay too. Especially if they're older games, like Greatest Hits, because you can get them for like $5 if you look around. Just gotta be careful about getting scratched discs, but usually if someone's a power seller (98% possitive feedback or higher) you can trust that the disc will work just fine.

[CrazyCrusher]

I can View Digi cam pics on my 360 and I can browse the net with it, plus play dvd, and I will be able to play HD DVD at 1080P if I can a tv that power full and I have a 20GIG drive plus an 80GIG for extra storage, it only cost me $399, blue ray is know diffrent than HD DVD besides it holding 20 GIG more.

[JediOfDarkness]

Bluray is no different than HDDVD? Bluray is not limited to 25/50GB, it's estimated to hit as high as 200GB (100GB+ is already possible), while HDDVD is only estimated to hit 45GB. Eventually entire seasons of shows will be able to fit on a single Bluray disc, instead of 5-10 DVDs, or 2-3 HDDVDs, also very large games with very high textures will be possible on a single Bluray disc. It's true that HDDVD and Bluray have the same transfer speeds (36Mb/s), but the Bluray will also have higher write speeds than HDDVDs, making backup of large files faster. Also, you have to PAY EXTRA for the HDDVD addon for the Xbox 360. The PS3 will come STANDARD will Bluray. Also, the Xbox 360 does NOT have support for 1080p, only up to 1080i.
I love how all of the people that own Xbox's say we're just Sony fanboys, when they're playing on a far inferior console and think they're just being "smart"

[CrazyCrusher]

It does not have support for the 1080P thats without the HD DVD Player, it will cost 100 Bucks for a HD DVD players for the Xbox still leaving it umm what 100 + Bucks cheaper . I said I can watch Movies at 1080P and yes the Xbox will support it with the HD Dvd Player.

http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/

(Still with us? No? Blu-ray discs are more expensive, but hold more data - there, that's all.)

[CrazyCrusher]

limited to 1080p, only up to 1080i.
I love how all of the people that own Xbox's say we're just Sony fanboys, when they're playing on a far inferior console and think they're just being "smart"

Who said you where a sony fanboy??


And could you give me a that link showing where Bluray holds up to 200GB.

[JediOfDarkness]

OK, I gotcha now... pay $500 for an Xbox 360 with an HDDVD drive, or $500 for a PS3 with a better processor (stats prove it), a better media player, better graphics... no wait, what? I guess I don't understand the logic in that. Oh well, I guess I'm just not as "smart" as you Xbox people.

[JediOfDarkness]

I'll get you that link about Bluray after I get home from work, I've got to leave right now.

[MadPistol]

And could you give me a that link showing where Bluray holds up to 200GB.

yea. I'd like that link too. I thought the limit was somewhere in the 30-50GB range. It was when I checked it the last time.

If you can prove it, I'll give you a cookie. :t

EDIT: amazing what you can find when you google "blu-ray"

http://www.blu-ray.com/media/

At the moment, the ceiling is 50GB. If there's going to be higher density discs than that, those discs probably won't be compatible with PS3.

[MadPistol]

ok. so I did a little research, and honestly, I can see where he got the 200GB's from now. Here's a link:

http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/

If you go down to the capacity section where it compares HD-DVD to Blu-ray, you'll see that the "highest test" is 200GB. I must admit that's a lot of data. However, that kind of availability is far from reaching the consumer market. For the moment. we're going to have to be happy with mere 25GB and 50GB discs. :rolleyes:

Also, is it just me, or do A LOT more companies support blu-ray than HD-DVD? If I had to bet on this issue, all of my money would go to say that Blu-ray will be the new standard in optical media when the smoke clears. :t

[CrazyCrusher]

http://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2006/06/bluray_vs_hddvd.html

[CrazyCrusher]

OK, I gotcha now... pay $500 for an Xbox 360 with an HDDVD drive, or $500 for a PS3 with a better processor (stats prove it), a better media player, better graphics... no wait, what? I guess I don't understand the logic in that. Oh well, I guess I'm just not as "smart" as you Xbox people.

Why are you getting all upset?

Better media player? so you have seen it at work on the ps3? Have you played the PS3? As smart as us Xbox people? This is the first Xbox I have owned or bought for that matter; if the PS3 is better Ill buy one of them to simple as that. but I don’t think that’s going to be the case, until I can play some real world games not demo's or sneak peeks on E3 then ill make my mind up if I want to buy one or not. I’m not an Xbox Fan boy I like the system simple as that that’s why I bought it, I don’t buy products based on who I love or like.

[JediOfDarkness]

I'm not getting upset, your post before just sounded like you were putting down the PS3 saying that it wouldn't be as good as a Xbox 360, without even giving it a chance. I was really just mearly saying that the Xbox 360 only has DVD, unless you pay an extra $100 for the HD-DVD addon, which brings the total to $500, the same cost as the PS3 with Bluray (which will also play DVDs, and possibly HD-DVD buy I'm not 100% sure about that). I was mearly trying to compare the two medias, and HD-DVD is based on an older technology. The thing that really comes to my mind, is that some Xbox 360 games might try to take advantage of the HD-DVD technology, and if they do, then that would mean ANYONE that wants to play that game would be forced to by the HD-DVD addon. That wouldn't be the case on the PS3, as all the games would be in the Bluray media. I just think that it was a really stupid decision on Micro$ofts part for not making HD-DVD standard on the system, or make the jump to a new technology like Sony did. I had a link to some media technology somewhere that claimed to have a storage capacity of 1TB, and one of the console companies should have jumped on that. I'll look for that link too and post it if I can find it. But you're right in saying that you can't really say it IS better yet since we haven't used it. And I didn't mean to refer to YOU as an Xbox fanboy, just that a lot of people will back the Xbox on everything and not give the PS3 a chance. I've played the Xbox 360, many times in fact, and the only thing I can say about it is that I'm not impressed in the slightest. Micro$oft claims that games haven't taken advantage of it's power yet, but neither have games taken full advantage of the PS2, or computer systems for that matter. Just to me the Xbox 360 can't do ANYTHING that my computer can't do.

Edit: Does anyone else see my signature? For some reason when I posted it put my signature in, or at least on my end it did... wierd.

[CrazyCrusher]

Ye I see your Sig but I dont see mine for some reason.

[JediOfDarkness]

I see your sig now... they must have turned sigs back on. Been a long time since I've seen those :t

[RockNRoll]

Honestly that's got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard... how would the system know that the game has been played in another system?

Exactly my thoughts. Sounds stupid. :confused:

[CrazyCrusher]

Watermarks on the CD's I guess who knows when your dealing with large companies what lengths they will go to, to stop Copying of the games, who knows what they will do.