Fried my old HDD

[arn]

When I hooked my old HDD to my new BE6 to transfer files it fried. Forunately it didn't hurt my new system any, some sort of cuircut breaker.
It popped a piece right off a chip with a loud snap and the new system shut right down. Can you imagine how I felt right at that moment?
Anyway when I unhooked the old drive the new one started right back up. Wheeeee.
Any ideas what happened? It wasn't O/C any, running at 366/66. 366 Celeron by the way.
Hooked into IDE-4 as a slave.
I would like to get some files off of it. Autocad drawings. One place estimated (on-line) a minumum of $500.00. That's way to much for me after spending what I did for this new machine.
I am remodeling a our house and all our kitchen cabinets are on it. My wife is going to **** if I have to do them over. I have a backup on tape for some but not all.
And am going to fry my old tape drive if I hook it up? Its an old Colorado, 6 yrs.
Of course drivers for this old tape drive are on the fried HDD, so I need to fine program files to run it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

[jman01pa]

Man you are lucky with your new system.

Did you have the Hard drive mounted or laying on the table or what? Even if you had cables on backwards that shouldnt have happened. Unless you shorted it out against something I think the drive was ready to go.

By the way, I did that with a stick of 128mb pc100 ram. Didnt hurt the board other than discoloring it but it melted my memory real good.

I dont believe you are gonna retrieve that data unless you want to spend the big bucks. I would be thankful you didnt hurt anything else and use what you have on your backup tapes.

[buitenb]

try to get a exact second hand drive precisly the same as the fried one and mount the "new" pcb on the fried one and try i over again !

[Axel]

One thing I'd do is identify the power cable plug you jacked into the blown drive and carefully inspect that the wiring and pin-out of that power plug hasn't been reversed.

If you find the wiring is wrong - thus causing your short circuit - you have a case against the hardware manufacturer to a) buy you a new drive to replace the blown one, and b) to perform data-retrieval on the blown drive at the expense of the manufacturer.

Doesn't matter if it was a bunch of text files or a pentagon missle drawing - they owe you that for wiring the power supply incorrectly - if that actually was the cause.

[arn]

jman01pa, yes, I was lucky. Yes, the HDD was sort of hanging there at an angle attached to the power supply because the power lead wasn't long enough to let it lie flat. It wasn't touching the case frame, so it wasn't grounded to it but, I figured that the power lead has a ground so it didn't need to be.

buitenb, Could you expand on that. What do you mean pcb? Try and replace the chip?

Axel, I had the new HDD plugged into the exact same power supple just previously and it worked just fine. I had unhooked it because the lead was a bit longer so it would reach the slave I was attaching.

thanks

[buitenb]

ok with pcb i mean the circuit board with all
the chips on it there should be a chip on it
with a little sticker on it that fits in a little socket there it stores the bad sectors and drive specs so have a good look at the papers or try to get the exact same drive and screw the pcb from the good one
on the fried hd and connect it the right way
because you fried the electronics but not
the discs inside

[arn]

Hey Thanks buitenb. I am going to try that. That makes a lot of sense. And much less expensive.

[buitenb]

ok try it and i say for 99 % it will work !
i had a few years ago 4 quantum scsi disks
250 mb for my amiga and maked 2 good ones out of them !

[BC]

I have found a good - Great! data recovery tool. It is called Lost & Found. By the same co that has partition magic. I had a HDD that was gone and had to reformat but after i did that I relized that I needed a file off of it a big word doc as well as some other things and the drive spun. So there was no physical damage to it and ran this program and it worked like a champ. Saved months worth of work.

[scfarley]

What brand and model was your hard drive? Maybe one of us has a drive like it we don't want. The drive board replacement is the best alternative. I am not sure, but I dont believe that the power wire ground is hooked to the drive case; in that case (pun intended) that may have caused your problem. I always make sure that I either set the drive on the metal chasis or wrap one of those little static wrist bands around the drive and clip the alligator clip on the chasis. Static is powerful thing...

[scfarley]

You are correct roy. I should have been more specific. Only the case of the drive should touch the chasis, never the circuitry.

[This message has been edited by scfarley (edited 11-19-1999).]

[arn]

Apperantly that was the probelem, I didn't have it properly grounded to the case.
The HDD is a Seagate, 1.7 gig.
3303 cyl, 16 heads, 63 sectors.
I don't know if this is the model # or not, it doesn't say, but I assume it is,
ST31722A
There are some other numbers such as:
GJB99755
9834-4
ST31722A (again)
9J7015-504
DET0.42
A63321
DUR04W
9801 x ML2

as shown on the label.

If anyone has one that might work for me or one that you are no longer using, I will gladly pay you a resonable price and shipping.
Thanks arn

[Roy]

C'mon, Gang! Surely someone out there has a drive like this that has graduated to the status of "paperweight"! If it was working when you retired it, then its controller card might be arn's salvation. Spread the word!

[This message has been edited by Roy (edited 11-19-1999).]

[Roy]

I smoked a WD HDD by laying it wrongly on the chassis. A single surface-mount inductor on the controller card was conspicuously burned. I took a similar part from a scrap board and gingerly soldered it in place. It worked!

Carefully inspect your controller card, maybe you will be equally lucky. If you are not electronically incllined, perhaps you know someone who is and can help.

[alpha]

I have a Seagate ST, but it's equally fried. You guys have to get a Chaintech CT-5AGM2. It rocks! I had a floppy drive hanging aroung the case and the PCB hit the chasis and the Chaintech tripped an auto cut out system, saving everything. Also, I was tightening a paralell port and the chasis HIT THE MOBO! The Chaintech cut out, saving me ££!