Oi Mobo Ya seen Dese ?

[j.m@talk]

Dunno how long they been out ....... But I saw a 06 Registered one today

http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Vehicles/Discovery/Discovery_overview_937A9DFF-AE9F-4B1B-A09C-9EFD574AD85B_502x670.jpg

Didn't look bad in a Agricultural kinda way .......

Twas one O' them wiv loadsa letters after its name ........ Tryin' to look cool :rolleyes:

TDI V6 yadda yadda ........ I liked it cos it didn't look too much like the kinda thing ya'd plow a field wiv :D

Ohh it had a sticker sayin 'Air Suspension' ........ I spose they use that on the "Strip" to impress their homies ;)

Guff To Read (http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Vehicles/Discovery/Discovery_overview.htm)

[mobo57]

Yea seen em all around for the last year or so. Called L3 over here. All have the gas V8, can't get the turbo diesel here. All of the rich Newport Beach soccer mom's got em. Freaking arm and a leg too, around $53K for the middling one. Decent looks, just want to see one out in the rough patches to see how it does. think it's more of a road poser than anything else.
I talked to the local rover dealer the other day, he thinks the Defender will go back on sale over here before the end of the year. I'll be in line for that for sure.
Gotta go plow the back forty. Baaaa... :D

[j.m@talk]

Are these any good ? .......... Like if ya don't brake any O' the lights or pull the headlamp wipers off & stuff ?

http://www.autosecurity.ru/audio/dopjob/images/nissan_patrol.jpg
Nissan Patrol

I saw a dude taking one "Out The Back" ;) (Australia) wiv a snorkle kit on & everything ....... Twas wading thro water bout 4' deep :eek:

I thought ......... Umm "I want one" ......... Tiz handy when the Tarmac gets wet round here ...... Sure is slippy :rolleyes:

[mobo57]

We don't have them over here. Don't really know what the equivalent would be. Looks like a step between the Pathfinder and the Armada.
But it is a good looking truck, and Nissan is known for producing very good and tough vehicles, except for the Xterra, they have a big problem with the front differential blowing up. Not good when you are 40 miles from the nearest road.

[j.m@talk]

Well they "Used" to be known for pretty well engineered cars too (Like the Infinity range) ....... But since Renault has bought em out ...... Or what ever Renault have done .......... I wouldn't bother ............ They are phasing out the Patrol here in favour of the Murano ......... "Which wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding" its got a V6 motor linked to a Renault CVT tranny ............... We tried usin' one to pull this mobile chipshop & it only just did it theys £30K worth O' bling I'm afraid...... :(

Yey another good comp goes down the tubes .............. Mind you Renault have bough out Citroen too ........ Prolly not mean a lot to you chaps....... But Citroen (Although French) really put some engineering in their vehicles ....... Like Active headlights in the early 70's...... & Hydro elastic suspension....... They did that up un till really recently ....... Twas brill stuff ..... A absolute PITA if ya didn't look after it ...... But now The Renault/Peugeot alliance is in full swing all the cars are begining to look as if they come from the same mould....... & a pretty carp mould it is too.

Jeebers I even saw a Jaguar S Type 2.0 D Estate (Station Wagon) Yesterday....... really synonymous wiv status that........... The guy who bought that needs taking out the back & shootin'

:t

[zybch]

I know a guy, was a chiroprator, who had a jeep POS with a snorkle.
Got shots of him driving cross a shallow lake with him sitting on the roof with his bum in the water, steering with his feet coz the water level was so high.
The only part of the car above water you could see was the snorkle :)
I'll try to get him to send me some pics. Funny as!

[mobo57]

I remember the Citroen, Used to be able to get them here in the early 70's, kinda modern looking for the time. Burt Reynolds drove one in the movie the Longest Yard. Amazing what the stunt driver did with it. Did'nt one of those come with a maserati engine??

[j.m@talk]

Citroen DS T'was a favourite of a lota ppl that, the one that came with the pokey Maz motor :)
http://www.iprovinciali.it/wp-content/CitroenDS_blu.jpg

I had one of these a while back (Company Car)
http://www.whatcar.co.uk/car/Citroen/XantiaEstate-Used/CitroenXantiaEstate-Used1637200311326.jpg

Ok not the most awe inspiring of vehicles ....... But if you wanted to drive in straight lines & be super comfy there was a adjuster for the suspension (Hydro elastic jobby stuff) ....... Ya had to key in a 4 digit code in a pad each time ya put te key in to start the ferker (Virt un nickable) ....... & it would really go quite fast for a 2.0L TD ............. Could boom up & down the motorways at 120 :D The lights were brill at night too..... It had all the toys on the steering wheel too ..... Ya know Radio ...... Cruise control ..... etc etc :t

Modern Stuff (http://www.c6.citroen.com/uk/)

[j.m@talk]

This is worf a nose too Here (http://www.renault.co.uk/RenaultSITe/puma/GB/PROD_GB/MEL_PROD/en/Laguna_PH2_K74/p1.jsp)

I sold my Bro one O' these a few Yrs ago ........... I had it from new, Firms car I liked so much I bought after the lease had ended.

:t

[mireland]

Citroen DS T'was a favourite of a lota ppl that, the one that came with the pokey Maz motor :)
http://www.iprovinciali.it/wp-content/CitroenDS_blu.jpg

I had one of these a while back (Company Car)
http://www.whatcar.co.uk/car/Citroen/XantiaEstate-Used/CitroenXantiaEstate-Used1637200311326.jpg

Ok not the most awe inspiring of vehicles ....... But if you wanted to drive in straight lines & be super comfy there was a adjuster for the suspension (Hydro elastic jobby stuff) ....... Ya had to key in a 4 digit code in a pad each time ya put te key in to start the ferker (Virt un nickable) ....... & it would really go quite fast for a 2.0L TD ............. Could boom up & down the motorways at 120 :D The lights were brill at night too..... It had all the toys on the steering wheel too ..... Ya know Radio ...... Cruise control ..... etc etc :t

Modern Stuff (http://www.c6.citroen.com/uk/)

both of them cars look retarded, specially that top one...barfo!

[j.m@talk]

Well the top one was produced in the 70's, so they will of started designin' the fing in the late 50's

Cars across the world differ .......... Jeebers we could all have a Crossfire with plastic chrome I spose :rolleyes:

[mireland]

Well the top one was produced in the 70's, so they will of started designin' the fing in the late 50's

Cars across the world differ .......... Jeebers we could all have a Crossfire with plastic chrome I spose :rolleyes:


we make ugly cars too...but we make them better... :D

[j.m@talk]

Yeah right :rolleyes:

Ours start & don't smog up the planet tho ........ Yas can shove yours :t

[mireland]

Yeah right :rolleyes:

Ours start & don't smog up the planet tho ........ Yas can shove yours :t


ahhh..I'll come over in me jeep and drive on the right side of the road and poison yer pretty rose gardens... :D

[j.m@talk]

You couldn't afford to drive here .............. Wayy to spendy fer plebs :t

[mireland]

You couldn't afford to drive here .............. Wayy to spendy fer plebs :t


yea, what do you pay for gas over there??? $1,000 a gallon or sumthin?? :(

[j.m@talk]

$5.86 a US Gall of Super (97 Ron)

Costs me $200 or so a month in fuel :t

[j.m@talk]

& finkin bout it I don't really go anywhere :(

[mireland]

$5.86 a US Gall of Super (97 Ron)

Costs me $200 or so a month in fuel :t

time for the cat to get a job! :mad:

[j.m@talk]

Ya can get 95 Ron (Premium) but its peasant fuel ;) $5.70 gall .......... But frankly my car does better MPG on the 97....... So it makes sense to use it .......... Ya just not gotta let anyone else shove fuel in ....... Cos they allways stiff ya wiv the cheap carp :mad:

Woo I can save 50p here :rolleyes:

[j.m@talk]

You got this kinda fing in yer kneck O' the woods ?

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/12JJM12/fuell.jpg

Gotta keep ya eye on the fuel prices ;)

[mireland]

my car takes the cheap 85 or 87 octane unleaded stuff...THANK CHRIST FOR THAT! :mad:

[j.m@talk]

Ya can't get that poop here ....... 2 types 95 or 97 .......... Ya'd never get anywhere wiv 85 Octane ........... :eek:

There is diesel if ya like ....... But thats even dearer ........ & it stinks .......Ya sound like a taxi....... If you have one, yas prolly: Indian,Pakistani,Jewish etc etc ..... ;)

[j.m@talk]

Oil is silly money too ......... Pends what ya buy tho ....... We got Texaco Havoline at Asda/Walmart @ $3.49 a Quart ...... But its pure carp ...... some ppl think its brill cos its cheap ....... Then there motor goes boom a 70K then its tears time :D

I just got this:
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/12JJM12/amsoil5Ltr.jpg
That was err calculate.....calculate $69.79 :eek: .......... Fank ferk it lasts a long time :D

[mireland]

time to move to saudi arabia I guess... :(

[j.m@talk]

Synthetic oil is man made you Dip Poop :rolleyes: ....... Thats why its so dear :t

Its bio degradeable too ....... Which is one up from dead dinosaur :t

[mireland]

Synthetic oil is man made you Dip Poop :rolleyes: ....... Thats why its so dear :t

Its bio degradeable too ....... Which is one up from dead dinosaur :t


I want whatever is cheaper..screw the environment... :mad:

[porsch1909]

He JMster.....

You not watch Top Gear?

They took the discovery up a mountain in Scotland on that program :eek:

twas pretty impressive....granted it got stuck a few times....but in the end made it in one peice :)

[j.m@talk]

They took the discovery up a mountain in Scotland on that program :eek:

Thats all very well, but can it make it around the The Hanger Lane Gyratory System (http://www.route79.com/journal/archives/000250.html) ? & come out alive :D

http://www.route79.com/assets/images/250504-2.jpg
The Hanger Lane Gyratory - drive with extreme sense of purpose - or else you’re toast.

:eek: :eek:

[j.m@talk]

I want whatever is cheaper..screw the environment... :mad:

Thats why ya all got the severe weather at the moment :rolleyes:

Kyoto anyone? You remember that thing that WJC signed you all up for & then GWB turned his back on the planet, for the sake of a few quid?......... I'm sure the residents of NO & LA in general are really chuffed about that one. :(

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[mobo57]

He JMster.....

You not watch Top Gear?

They took the discovery up a mountain in Scotland on that program :eek:

twas pretty impressive....granted it got stuck a few times....but in the end made it in one peice :)
Hey porsch, got a link to that??? Like to see it. I've taken my disco to some pretty serious places. Couple of times had it balanced on two wheels. More than once had to tow some dumb s.o.b. driving a Ferd or Chevy out of a place they shouldn't have gone.
Have to say I love my "combine" as jm so lovingly calls it..

[porsch1909]

You have PM mobo :)

My dad had a disco a while back....wasn't his cuppa tea however....sold it within about 3 months for a car....

I guess when ya hit a curb in the disco you got no problems then mobo ;)

[j.m@talk]

Old Mobo hasn't got over his childhood "Tonka Toys" ......... Tiz quite sad really :D

http://www.giambarba.com/bizimage/graphics/tonkatruck.jpeg


:t

[genesound]

Thats why ya all got the severe weather at the moment :rolleyes:

Kyoto anyone? You remember that thing that WJC signed you all up for & then GWB turned his back on the planet, for the sake of a few quid?......... I'm sure the residents of NO & LA in general are really chuffed about that one. :(


That political football had nothing to do with it, with or without it, same hurricanes. I'm not against the intent of Kyoto, but i don't think it's the right thing. :mad:

[j.m@talk]

I'm not against the intent of Kyoto, but i don't think it's the right thing.

It would apear to the rest of the human race that any kind of activity is 'Not the right thing' especially if it doesn't line Exxon Mobil's pockets.............. :rolleyes:

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SO NER .............

[mobo57]

Don't start that jm. What about PB and Shell????

[j.m@talk]

Don't start that jm. What about PB and Shell????

Dunno, what about them ? ............................ Other than the fact that they have a interest in alternative fuels & dished out zip quids to any Bushy election campaigns :p

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/climate/climatecriminals/esso/images/bush3.jpg http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/climate/climatecriminals/esso/images/esso-flag.gif

Esso is the world’s no. 1 climate criminal. It has done more than any other company to stop the world from tackling climate change.
Esso admits that it has a ‘vested interest’ in stopping governments from taking action on climate change. For over a decade, it has attempted to sabotage international negotiations on the issue and block agreements which would reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

It’s thanks to corporations like Esso that the US ditched the Kyoto Protocol, the only international agreement to deal with climate change. With only five percent of the world’s population, the US is responsible for emitting 25 percent of the main greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide. Esso wants to keep it that way.

Esso even denies that climate change is caused by the burning of fossil fuels and has spent millions of dollars funding front organisations to reinforce its position.

To protect its own profits, Esso opposes the switch to clean energy. Despite being one of the world’s richest companies, Esso doesn’t invest a single dollar in renewable energy. In fact Esso would like to see a massive increase in fossil fuel use over the next 20 years - a scenario that would send climate change spiralling out of control.

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/climate/climatecriminals/esso/images/esso_fingerprint.gif READ THE CASE AGAINST ESSO (http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/climate/climatecriminals/esso/case.cfm)

[genesound]

Yeah, hmmm... Also I see it as a thinly veiled anti west kinda thing... you guys quit poluting and let us have a go at it from now on. Not to mention that the whole global warming thing is nebulous at best in the first place.

With any luck we'll be driving vehicles that are much more efficient soon anyhow, and that technology will no doubt affect much of western industry too.

[j.m@talk]

My car would go faster if it ran on Hot Air & Or F@rtz :D

:t

[genesound]

Like that cheesy film said, our entire population is but a rounding error compared to China's. When they're all driving around, then we'll see polution, kinda like Mexico but much more.

[porsch1909]

Don't start that jm. What about PB and Shell????


BP? :confused:

[j.m@talk]

Thats the chappy ;)


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[genesound]

http://www.sepp.org/weekwas/2006/Feb.%204

Even if all the countries that were intended to be covered by the Kyoto Protocol fulfilled its requirements, the effect on greenhouse gases would be meaningless. The five percent cut in CO2 emissions, which Kyoto is supposed to achieve, would have a trivial effect on its level and on temperatures.

Worse than the triviality of the Kyoto objective, the developing countries-the sector with the rapidly growing emissions, particularly the population giants China and India-are exempt from Kyoto limits. Their emissions will soon swamp anything Kyoto could accomplish. All that Kyoto could accomplish is to take away a large chunk of the American standard of living.

[porsch1909]

It would be a start..

[genesound]

http://www.sepp.org/weekwas/2006/Feb.%204

2. Kyoto's Big Con

The Kyoto environmental protocol committed nations to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. By this standard, the pact's biggest fans, the Europeans, are failing. And what about the United States, the global villain for withdrawing approval of the accord in 2001? It's doing very well, thank you, says the Wall Street Journal.

Consider the latest numbers from the European Environment Agency in Copenhagen:

o Most European countries have seen an increase in greenhouse-gas emissions since signing Kyoto with great fanfare in 1997.

o No fewer than 13 out of the 15 original European Union (EU) signatories are on track to miss their 2010 emissions targets -- by as much as 33 percentage points, in the case of Spain.

Or consider Denmark, home of the EU's environmental watchdog:

o Rather than reduce levels by 21 percent as the accord stipulates, Denmark has so far notched a 6.3 percent increase in emissions since 1990, the base year used in Kyoto.

o The likely gap between its Kyoto commitment and its emissions levels projected for 2010 is 25.2 percentage points.

Like I said "political football" and I'll add farce.

[j.m@talk]

I'm reading reasons to do nothing ........... :rolleyes:

[zybch]

Look, the environment is allready screwed well past anyone's ability to reverse it!
The world population doubled in the last 40 years, so its pretty clear that energy use and the resultant greenhouse gasses will continue to spiral way out of control.
I give our species another couple of hundred years and then we're screwed!

[j.m@talk]

Senator John Kerry (D-MA) and Representative Henry Waxman (D-30th CA) have concluded that Dr. Paula Dobriansky and Dr. Harlan Watson, heads of the U.S. delegation to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change intentionally misrepresented the truth about U.S. emissions of greenhouse gases. Kerry and Waxman are demanding to know why they mischaracterized the data on greenhouse gas emissions to make it look as if U.S. emissions were falling when in fact, U.S. greenhouse gases are rising and reached an all time high in 2004.

Representatives from KyotoUSA experienced first hand the misrepresentations made by the U.S. delegation that are raised in the Kerry-Waxman letter. The KyotoUSA letter points out that the U.S. position on greenhouse gas reductions is irresponsible and is putting the worlds future at risk.

:t

[zybch]

Freaking republicans!

[genesound]

Old news, but then so is Kyoto (http://www.sepp.org/glwarm/majordeception.html)

Dr. S. Fred Singer, president of The Science & Environmental Policy Project (SEPP) and author of Hot Talk, Cold Science: Global Warming's Unfinished Debate, explained: "Scientists are understandably upset when they see $2 billion per year devoted to research on climate change, much it irrelevant and concerned only with imaginary consequences of a hypothetical warming -- while other fields of science are starved. They are also appalled and angry that an increasing fraction of this research money is diverted into "community workshops," thinly disguised brainwashing exercises to create public fears about climate catastrophes."

It's not about doing nothing, just the right thing. The science that Kyoto was founded on is pretty much a hoax, and now it's self perpetuating, huge arguments and bs all based around misrepresented lies; a flawed premise in the first place.

[j.m@talk]

I give our species another couple of hundred years and then we're screwed!

End of the world is nigh :rolleyes:

[j.m@talk]

It's not about doing nothing, just the right thing. Kyoto is pretty much a hoax.

Lets face it ...... It would be Un-American to address the issue & not snipe @ others attempts )-|

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[mobo57]

Saturday morning I'm gonna go hop into my combine, which gets 14 miles to the gallon, drive 240 miles to pristine sand dunes in Pismo Beach, and go explore and drive all over those dunes, maybe disrupt some native habitat or squish a few endangered kangaroo rats. Then I'm gonna stop at McDonalds for a double quarter pounder with cheese, large fries and a Coca-Cola.
A true American!!
http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/smilies0991.gif http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/smtractor.gif

[genesound]

This is old news too but it's still ongoing...

FAIRFAX, VIRGINIA, APRIL 21, 1998---More than 15,000 scientists, [8/4/98: now about 17,000] two-thirds with advanced academic degrees, have now signed a Petition against the climate accord concluded in Kyoto (Japan) in December 1997. The Petition (see text below) urges the US government to reject the Accord, which would force drastic cuts in energy use on the United States. This is in line with the Senate Resolution, approved by a 95-to-0 vote last July, which turns down any international agreement that damages the economy of the United States while exempting most of the world's nations, including such major emerging economic powers as China, India, and Brazil.

Lets face it ...... It would be Un-American to address the issue & not snipe @ others attempts )-|

It's an attempt alright, but not at anything valid to take care of the environment.

[j.m@talk]

Let me pull the painfull bits out:

force drastic cuts in energy use on the United States
international agreement that damages the economy of the United States

Blinkers "ON" & set phasers on stun ........ :rolleyes:

The Wiseburgers are pontificating again ...................... ***Shudders*** :(

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[mobo57]

Senator John Kerry (D-MA) and Representative Henry Waxman (D-30th CA)

:t
Bull pucky. Those two are the worst politicians in the world. They can make Mother Teresa look like a liar. Waxman has no credibility any more and Kerry is a bs spouting press monger. If anybody believes ANYTHING those two say, I got a bridge I want to sell ya.

[j.m@talk]

& we have a planet to save ........ Science fact

ohh & perhaps

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[mobo57]

At least with global warming, we won't have to worry about using so much oil, gas and other energy to heat our houses in the winter time!!! :D

[genesound]

Let me pull the painfull bits out:

force drastic cuts in energy use on the United States
international agreement that damages the economy of the United States


And that would benefit everybody just how? To what end? In just a few years our polutants will be dwarfed by emerging economies anyhow, FFS :mad:

[j.m@talk]

And that would benefit everybody just how? To what end? In just a few years our polutants will be dwarfed by emerging economies anyhow, FFS :mad:


Well if ya cut the amount of energy you used it in turn, would reduce your emmisions ......... That would benefit everyone

& more reasons not to do anything ...........

When are the US going to actually do somthing other than nothing about this ? :t

[genesound]

& we have a planet to save ........ Science fact


FAIRFAX, VIRGINIA, APRIL 21, 1998---More than 15,000 scientists, [8/4/98: now about 17,000] two-thirds with advanced academic degrees, have now signed a Petition against the climate accord concluded in Kyoto (Japan) in December 1997. The Petition (see text below) urges the US government to reject the Accord, which would force drastic cuts in energy use on the United States. This is in line with the Senate Resolution, approved by a 95-to-0 vote last July, which turns down any international agreement that damages the economy of the United States while exempting most of the world's nations, including such major emerging economic powers as China, India, and Brazil.

What fact?

[j.m@talk]

At least with global warming, we won't have to worry about using so much oil, gas and other energy to heat our houses in the winter time!!! :D

Ya gonna need more gasoline for your emergency response units tho :eek:

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[genesound]

Well if ya cut the amount of energy you used it in turn, would reduce your emmisions ......... That would benefit everyone

& more reasons not to do anything ...........

When are the US going to actually do somthing other than nothing about this ? :t
I really doubt if accellerating the weaking of the US economy will benefit everyone.

[j.m@talk]

What fact?

This is turning in to a modern day emperors new clothes......... One day you guys will wake up & try to remember what coffee smelt like ......... Before the smog took hold :rolleyes:

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[genesound]

Less smog here than there was 30 years ago, except when the Santa Ana winds blow it all up here from Mexico.

[j.m@talk]

I really doubt if accellerating the weaking of the US economy will benefit everyone.

So your entire reasoning on this issue is wallet driven ...... How proud you all must be

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[j.m@talk]

Less smog here than there was 30 years ago.

Where ?

Which planet you on ? :t

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[genesound]

Southern California. When I moved here in 1972 it was awful.

[genesound]

None of this really matters, the USA isn't gonna join Kyoto, and shoudn't. Oh, and there is plenty being done. Just have a look at that annoying banner link you keep chokin my monitor with. ;)

[mireland]

So your entire reasoning on this issue is wallet driven ...... How proud you all must be

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I'm certainly pretty proud.. :D

[genesound]

So your entire reasoning on this issue is wallet driven ...... How proud you all must be

If our economy failed here, you'd be singin big time woes.

[mobo57]

I'm still gonna buy my Defender when they start selling here. Even if I can only afford to park it in the garage and listen to the radio... :cool:

[j.m@talk]

I'm still gonna buy my Defender when they start selling here. Even if I can only afford to park it in the garage and listen to the radio... :cool:

Sounds good to me :t

[mobo57]

Lord... I didn't realize that jm's banner was a click. Giving Berkeley as an example??? Bunch of pot smokin' fruits and nuts up there still living in the 60's.

[j.m@talk]

If our economy failed here, you'd be singin big time woes.

If your economy failed it would hit you a lot harder than it would hit me .......... But thats irrelivent :p

Why not do somthing to reduce that 25% & Climbing figure :t

[genesound]

Why do you keep saying that when it's been asked and answered. Plenty is being done, just not the USA signing the Kyoto Protocol. It's an ill conceived farce.

[j.m@talk]

Why do you keep saying that when it's been asked and answered. Plenty is being done, just not the USA signing the Kyoto Protocol. It's an ill conceived farce.

Now come on .......... The USA HAVE signed the Kyoto Protocol ........ You got selective memory syndrome again ? ......... Ya must be President material :p

The only ill concieved farce is the USA's refusal to admit the gob smackingly obvious :t

[j.m@talk]

I'm bored with this now ........ Can we play footsie ? :D

[mobo57]

Get rid of 25% of the greenhouse gas just by getting jm to take a couple of these each day:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/mobo57/Beano.jpg :t

[j.m@talk]

Congrats Mofo ........... Ya managed it ;)

[mobo57]

Yea..real pia trying to get it there... sometimes I can be a real 'tard... :p

[j.m@talk]

Bas ?

I wouldn't be that impolite :D

:t

[genesound]

Global warming's £10 trillion cost (http://business.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1821742005)

Junkscience (http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Kyoto_Count_Up.htm)

Wooo

[j.m@talk]

Some people just don't know when to give up :rolleyes:

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[genesound]

Some ppl don't know when they been manipulated :p

[j.m@talk]

So wise up dude :t

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[mireland]

I like cake.

[genesound]

Earth will spin out of control (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1487692,00.html) :eek:







http://images.thetimes.co.uk/images/TIMESHeadBGLogo_1.gif (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1487692,00.html)

[mobo57]

Bas ? I wouldn't be that impolite :D :t
Ya already know I'm one of those....meant re.... :D

[j.m@talk]

Ahh ;)

[j.m@talk]

Earth will spin out of control (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1487692,00.html) :eek:
http://images.thetimes.co.uk/images/TIMESHeadBGLogo_1.gif (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1487692,00.html)

So we don't have a problem.............. Ahh back to denial :rolleyes:

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[genesound]

Larry Elliott, economics editor
Monday February 6, 2006
The Guardian

The attempt in Britain to have our cake and eat it will mean - almost inevitably - that the government goes ahead with its plan to build more nuclear power stations. The expertise of John Browne, the chief executive of BP, is interesting here, though. Browne says that building enough capacity to deliver seven gigawatts of energy could put a ceiling on emissions at around 500 ppm. That doesn't sound much, but one gigawatt (actually one gigaton) is the equivalent of 700 nuclear power stations. That's a heck of a lot of nukes, and by the time we've built them rising sea levels may mean they're a few feet under water. At the very best, it will mean that the lights stay on in the UK as darkness descends in the rest of the world (no it'll be glowing with nuclear waste)...

Governments are almost certainly wrong to believe that action on climate change means economic stagnation. On the contrary, it would probably lead to an unleashing of a new clean industrial revolution based on green technology. They are also wrong to believe that the Kyoto process - rather than a new, comprehensive global solution - is the way to cut carbon emissions in any meaningful way.


http://image.guardian.co.uk/sitelogos/Business.gif (http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1702952,00.html)

[genesound]

So we don't have a problem.............. Ahh back to denial :rolleyes:

No, it's just an indication of how out of control this whole Kyoto farce has gone.

[genesound]

Do you actually read any of this stuff I been linkin? I think not.

So do you understand the meaning of denial? Sure, it's da river in Egypt :rolleyes:

[mireland]

sorry, I haven't been paying attention to this thread...what the hell are we talking about??? :rolleyes:

[herosrest]

The real point of the US dis interest in Kyoto is the disinterest.
New lndustrial revo - hope so.

Kyoto was a global initiative. Bush should a grabbed it by the balls, jumped in the saddle cracked a few heads and given a lead. Hijack it if u like.
The commitments required of 'Major polluters' are onerus and unfair - so why not fight that corner instead of the great 2 finger salute.

[herosrest]

sorry, I haven't been paying attention to this thread...what the hell are we talking about??? :rolleyes:

The caliber of baton rounds. ;)

[mireland]

The caliber of baton rounds. ;)


cheese

[mobo57]

How the hell did this thread go from jm sending me piccies of the new Rover to this s%^&?? Holy mother of nothing...
I'm driving a combine that gets 14 miles to the gallon. I intend to buy a brick that get's little better. It's a Rover. Global warming?? Smog?? Thank you for driving your hybred. Otherwise, I'll catch you out-back, enjoying places with no one else there... jm thanks for the pics...

[genesound]

Yeah, I hope so too.

Kyoto already had a life of it's own by the time Bush got there, and it was unfair, yes, but it also had an extreme anti US bias; very unrealistic.

Most of the adopters won't make their commitments, what a collassal waste.

We'll come up wiv something, hell we started the whole stink in the first place, prolly finish it first too, we'll be gettin around in non petrolem vehicles, and our factories too. We'll have no need for mid-east oil, we'll have plenty of our own for the rest of it. Prollem is gonna be the emerging huge countries, like I been saying.

Sorry about the thread pollution :D I used to really enjoy 4-wheelin when I was a kid, combines r cool :t

[genesound]

Oh, n Bush might have had some ideas on Kyoto (doubt it) but once 9/11 came along, all bets were off.

PS

I just watched U2 on the Grammys, FANTASTIC. :D So was Sir Paul (especially Sir Paul) and his outrageously incredible band; e's drummer is amazing, bof the sound mixers were excellent :t :D :D

[herosrest]

Oh, n Bush might have had some ideas on Kyoto (doubt it) but once 9/11 came along, all bets were off.




Fair do's. :t

But he isn't the 1st president to suffer a surprise attack.

There is no comparison with Roosevelt.
Look what was achieved 1941-1945.

[genesound]

Yeah, income tax went through the roof and big government settled in forever :eek:

'Course there were other things... hang the Brits out ta dry till the last possible moment... :(

[herosrest]

and then wring their necks. :D

It was our war and we won it. :t enuf.. l'm done. ;)

[genesound]

'bout the time of that "surprise" attack :eek: :eek: :eek:

[genesound]

I don't blame yas, we did it... together :t

PS... Churchill was a real man eh? ;) :D :t

[genesound]

We shall not fail or falter; we shall not weaken or tire...Give us the tools and we will finish the job.
Sir Winston Churchill, BBC radio broadcast, Feb 9, 1941

'course everybody knows we dint engage the enemies until 12/7/41... noice :rolleyes:

[genesound]

Way to go Roosevelt :-@ kma more like it :mad:

[genesound]

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[genesound]

Just almost barely... too little too late :rolleyes: We had, n have always had so much more... ;)

[genesound]

The Giants are stirring ;)

[herosrest]

http://www.stadiumsofnfl.com/afc/giantsjetsmain.jpg :cool:

[porsch1909]

Hey mobo you get that torrent downloaded yet?

[mireland]

zippy the wonder horse.

[mobo57]

Hey mobo you get that torrent downloaded yet?
One of my IT guys at the office is getting it for me today.. I'll let you know!! Looking forward to it.

[porsch1909]

It is a really great show wether you are into cars or not....

Very entertaining as well....don't have to be brittish to find it good either! :t

[j.m@talk]

One of my IT guys at the office is getting it for me today..


Lazy cookin' fastard :D

[mobo57]

Lazy cookin' fastard :D
Hey...not nice... I just don't torrent, that's all. :rolleyes:

[j.m@talk]

Fer shame on Vous! .................... Bloomin' law abiding citizens ............... Hate em ;)

:t

[mobo57]

Not me, just have'nt had a chance to figure out how to do it...Like I said, can be a real 'tard some time.. Got an extra box laying around, maybe I'll do a Linux install and set it up as a server just for that. That way if I mess it up, don't have to worry about the rest of files/programs.
:t

[j.m@talk]

Messin up is part O' the learnin process ............ Like me & me Bloomin Net Printer :(

[mireland]

Messin up is part O' the learnin process ............ Like me & me Bloomin Net Printer :(


you should have an iq of about 350 at the rate yer going... :D

[j.m@talk]

I tripped on the learning curve & slid back down on my @£$€

[j.m@talk]

Yey Mobo ........... Check/Cheque Book Out! ........ Loooooooook

http://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/1e/17/60_1_b.JPG

Ebay Linkage (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4610911019&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BID_Stores_IT#ebay photohosting)

£45/$78 the set :t

[mobo57]

Exactly what I have on my combine. Great price. Problem is, they'r in the UK. Shipping would kill me.

[j.m@talk]

Nahh ya'd just sail em slow boat sytlee ...... Would take bout 3 weeks but be lots cheaper..... I bets theys mega bux to replace if ya bust one .......... I know mine are £120 + & I guess theys heaps smaller than them puppies :t

[mobo57]

GUESS WHAT J.M.!!! Them suckers are 535$ new down at my dealer!!! EACH!!!! Thems two grand worth of metal!!!! :eek:

[j.m@talk]

I thought they would be expensivo ............ Lets hope ya don't bend one makin' hay this year :eek:

[porsch1909]

j00 got that torrent yet mobo?

[zybch]

Messin up is part O' the learnin process ............ Like me & me Bloomin Net Printer :(

Haven't you got that going yet?!

[j.m@talk]

Lpt1 for now ....... I just don't have the patience to sit with it right now

[zybch]

I just ordered a wireless router with 2xUSB printer server thingies in it. Should be interesting.

[werz]

mobo, jm could get the rims for 50 +20quid postage, put em on a boat, in a month ya got 4 spare rims, one set for your road tyres and one set for your off road tyres.
$150 compared to $2140, give jm 50 for cargo fee an 50 tip ta make it worth his while.
If I still worked for the airline, I could have got them sent airfreight from MAN to LAX for 10% of usual cost. Sorry I cant do it anymore.

[j.m@talk]

I like the 50 tip idea :D

[porsch1909]

i'll do it for 25 ;)


:p

[j.m@talk]

i'll do it for 25 ;)


:p

Your gonna get a thick ear :mad:

[porsch1909]

Na leave it to JM....I'd probably just mess it up ;)

[j.m@talk]

I still might hold em hostage fer a bigger cut :r :r :r :r :r

[porsch1909]

THen mobo will tell you to ferk off and you will be stuck with useless Alloys ;)

Or you could put 'em on your nissan :eek:

[j.m@talk]

Won't be me payin' for em in the first place .......... Suits me I'll sell em to the 4X4 club :t

[porsch1909]

But would you be able to put them on your nissan? Just outta interest ;)

[j.m@talk]

Monster Trucks :D

No my wheels are 4 stud & thats 5

:t

[mobo57]

I'm really thinking about it. Got a extra set right now with my off road tires for when I do the serious stuff, like surf trips to mexico. They are steel though. Problem with the alloys is they don't like rocks very much. Hit one the wrong way and they crack or break.
Set up my box last night to torrent. One of my old 2400's. Running Suse 10 and utorrent. Been running about 12 hours now, only half way done... Yesterday my IT guy told me he'd was trying to get it also and it was real slow. Not many seeds out there. No problem. Maybe have it before the weekend is over.

[porsch1909]

only 350 odd MB was it not....

strange....didn't even find a tracker for me :p

[mobo57]

Whats a tracker???? I'm a real 'tard when it comes to this. Took me almost an hour to figure out how to get the port and ip address thingy set up. I'm also a bit leary. Only tried it once a few years ago. Thought everything was ok, got some good free legitimate stuff. But somebody out there somehow got into my machine. Was using it as a bot. Took over my extra hd and was eating up all my bandwidth. Ended up having to do a full format/re-install of Wndo$e to get control of my puter back. Leave it to some idiot to screw it up for everyone. :mad:

[porsch1909]

What's a tracker....hmmmm....not to sure myself

I just know you gotta have one :p

[j.m@talk]

Buggeration :rolleyes:

I don't recon alloys are really the right kit for overall ruggedness Ya want summink that ya can bash back with a hammer in emergencies ........... Alloy as you say will just splinter ......... Ya need to see if ya can sell em to one of yas homies ......... That way we all make a few quid :t

[porsch1909]

I'll do it for 40 :D

[j.m@talk]

I'm a real 'tard

'turd ? :confused:


:D

[j.m@talk]

Ahh well mobo misses out .......... I bet he forgot all bout them ......... :rolleyes:

[mobo57]

WTF??? Closing time is suppose to be 20:50??? It's only 19:16 I got another hour.... :mad:

[j.m@talk]

Sore Looser :rolleyes:

Wodda Weiner :D

:t

[genesound]

Looks to me like everybody looses :(

[porsch1909]

http://www.lawheel.com/ex/Range2x/w01.JPG

Could always just get a set of these :D

[j.m@talk]

Looks to me like everybody looses :(

The Americans have managed to get a drink up in a Brewery wrong once again :rolleyes:


arf arf arf ............... Oi mobo ......... YA FIRED........ Sound familiar?
:D

[j.m@talk]

http://www.lawheel.com/ex/Range2x/w01.JPG

Could always just get a set of these :D

Thems nice porker :)

http://www.lawheel.com/ex/Range2x/w01.JPG


:-@

[porsch1909]

Bling bling!

[mireland]

Bling bling!


more like BANG! BANG!...cuz those look like gang member wheels to me... :rolleyes:

[genesound]

more like BANG! BANG!...cuz those look like gang member wheels to me... :rolleyes:
You startin to sound like a cop http://67.15.5.220/5476/86/emo/anim_login_talking.gif

[j.m@talk]

Friggin Aye ....................... I likes them ................... Mind you I like that fingi.............. Mystic range O' paints too........... Mind you we don't have that many Armed Gangs & or Mexicans here either ........... So we just call ppl wiv cars like that a Flash C**t ;)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/12JJM12/Car%20Stuff/2005_0814Image0022.jpg

Nice :t

[porsch1909]

j00 got that torrent yet mofo??

[mireland]

You startin to sound like a cop http://67.15.5.220/5476/86/emo/anim_login_talking.gif


that would explain my sudden urge for glazed donuts... :p

[j.m@talk]

You are a doughnut :D

[mireland]

You are a doughnut :D


I have the urge, now to nightstick you upside yer head(pretend like I'm with the LAPD) :r

[mireland]

You have PM mog man.. :p

[mobo57]

Yo porsch... just got done watching the vid... Great show... Maybe someday it'll show up on this side.. Yea that's the new disco, over here it's the L3. I got the Disco II. L3 is good looking, but not my cup of tea. Don't like all the automatic traction control, why I got my manual CDL and front and rear lockers.
Amazed though that he made it up there. Best way to get in trouble off-road is to drive into situations where you don't know what you're doing. And he obviously didn't. Nuff said. Waiting for the Defender...
Oh, and the lady on there??? Whats with those teeth???? Geeze, she could bite a hub cap off a car at 30 mph!!! Actually looks like she did!! EIther that or she's a relative of Camilla.. :eek:

[porsch1909]

Which lady? :confused: been a while since I watched that episode.

They had a special winter olympics episode on Sunday but I missed it. Like 'The Stig' driving around on ice and stuff....will download it later.

They also had the Bugatti Veyron (1000BHP beast) They raced that against a private plane from france to london I think....And the car won!

Also raced a Aston Martin DB9 against a train down france(france is suppose to have the best trains) and the car won!

What else. They raced a Mercedes SLR from london to Oslo. Against a plane and ferry :p

All episodes are available on torrents though!

[mobo57]

it was the lady from the Avengers'. Looked like a picket fence. Has to be one of my favorite shows though, right up there with the Prisoner.

[werz]

Bad girls is better than prisoner, OZ is better than both of em.
How could it not be with a title like that. :t

[mobo57]

Oi jm... few shots of the combine, same place, this summer and this last week, had a bit o' the white stuff....see, it can do more than plow the north forty!!!
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/mobo57/Summer.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/mobo57/Snow.jpg

[j.m@talk]

Woooooooooooo "Action Shots" :t

[porsch1909]

j00 seen that other top gear epsiode yet mofo?

[genesound]

Where's the other glove?

[j.m@talk]

Yeah & why doncha have a # plate surround on there...... They looks a bit cob them steel pressed plates ;)

I bet its fun washing & waxing that .............. Bit like mowing the park wiv a push go mower :D

Right mobo ....... Talk to these people (http://www.tagsandflags.com/) they will sort ya out wiv summink trendy ........... I gotta Chrome Plate wiv a 22ct (plated) Nissan badge on it ...... Woo wiv a gold surround ......... Its for the back shelf, looks quite bohemien ....... Umm righto John

Ya could get some good ole "Yee Haw" like this:
http://www.tagsandflags.com/images/2930f.jpg

Its interesting stuff, but don't go mad the quality of the finish isn't brilliant

This is my bitta bling ;)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/12JJM12/IMAGE0044.jpg

[mobo57]

Porsch: watched it last night...Excellent, especially the car racing the bobsled.....and eating the yellow slow ROFL!!
gene: don't you mean where is the rest of the body?????
jm: no bling, besides that, got a fix-it ticket few years back for not having a front plate. The law here. And fancy frames just get torn off...

[j.m@talk]

Bling free zone huh .......... How positively Soviet ........ eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

[mobo57]

back end of my truck is kinda full.....tire chains, tow strap, jugs of water/anti-freeze, trench tool/axe, sleeping bag, tool kit, wetsuit, fins, mask, first-aid kit, climbing ropes and harness, hand wench and various odd items... Looks like a cross between a hardware store and a outfitters shop.... :p

[j.m@talk]

hand wench and various odd items...

Give ya a hand does she http://67.15.129.139/6083/37/emo/naughty.gif

[mireland]

Give ya a hand does she http://67.15.129.139/6083/37/emo/naughty.gif


perv...

[j.m@talk]

Troo http://67.15.129.139/6083/37/emo/naughty.gif