Kaspersky Notes...

[dajogejr]

My Norton AV runs out in December...so, I figured I'd give Kapersky a try, since they offer a free, 30 day trial.
Well...I"m a little dissapointed right off the bat. Because I use Sygate Pro firewall, it conflicted and disabled my network adapter. Three reboots and reinstalls later, it still wasn't fixed.

So....I uninstalled it, browsed their support and found this:

http://www.kaspersky.com/faq?qid=170886046

Of course, after I disabled Kaspersky's network service per this article, it worked just fine.

Just a thought for any of you who might think of jumping ship.
I'm sort of dissapointed that something right out of the box would do this...and, once done...how would you browse the Internet to find the fix unless you uninstall it?
Funny thing is, I have two NIC adapters (a la A7N8X dlxe) tried both, ran the winsock IP fix...nadda....

Just some food for thought...

[Kandar]

I have installed Kaspersky on networked machines running Outpost & ZoneAlarm (both Standard & Pro versions) without any of the troubles you mention which suggests that it may be a problem thats specific to certain firewall products and not firewalls in general.

[Strawbs]

I have the same board & tried Kaspersky's suite a few month's back after uninstalling Norton! I never had any issues connecting to the net.

But I eventually uninstalled it because it kept detecting "Possible Attacks" that IP tracking revealed came from eastern Europe (a little too much of a coincidence for my liking).

[dajogejr]

I have installed Kaspersky on networked machines running Outpost & ZoneAlarm (both Standard & Pro versions) without any of the troubles you mention which suggests that it may be a problem thats specific to certain firewall products and not firewalls in general.

Quite possible. But, I like Sygate free so much I spent a few bucks and got Pro...wasn't worth it. Free worked fine.

Like I said...it wasn't my PC, because I tried both NICs, and as soon as I did exactly what the page said, free sailing from there on out.

They do update a heck of a lot more than Symantec....
I guess I'll have to try and infect it, or...browse like a typical consumer and see how it stands up.

What I like about it is there are two less services running all the time through my software firewall...a plus.

Other than that, no speed increase or decrease over NAV2005....I'll give it a try and see how she goes!

[Kandar]

it kept detecting "Possible Attacks" that IP tracking revealed came from eastern Europe (a little too much of a coincidence for my liking).

I have often joked that it’s a good business model to release Viruses and Trojans in to the wild and then get rich by offering the cure. I'm sure non of the vendors would do anything like that ;)
But do bear in mind that many of todays organised computer crime networks have originated from the old Eastern Bloc countries so it’s not really that surprising.

[dajogejr]

Also...boys, I tested my Cisco Software VPN client to work, and it no longer works either. Others I work with use it from home just fine, so...it's just my PC.
Even if I disable Kaspersky alltogether, it still doesn't work. I'm going to try and uninstall it...again...and see if the VPN software works. If it does, sorry to say, I'll be back on the NAV bandwagon right away...

I'll let you chaps know later if the VPN works again after removing Kaspersky....again, I'm NOT saying this is typical for all users. I'm just reporting my findings for other's informational use!

Hope you boys had a good turkey day...

:t

[G]

Try NOD32.

http://www.eset.com/home/home.htm

[intimidator]

If it does, sorry to say, I'll be back on the NAV bandwagon right away...


:eek: The Norton Bandwagon.....I didn't know there was such a thing.

[dajogejr]

Norton doesn't sell other AV software 3 to 1 for nothing you know...:)

I uninstalled Kaspersky, uninstalled the VPN client, reinstalled the VPN and reinstalled Kaspersky...all working perfect now.

I've downloaded a trial of NOD32 as well. That's was my 3rd choice after Norton and Kasper....

[G]

Good to hear that you have KAV working.

One reason why Norton/Symantec sells more than others is there presence everywhere, e.g., PC World, and being one of the early AV developers.

Just because Symantec sell more AV products does not in any way mean they are the best? In fact many first-time computing purchaser will buy from places like PC World and NAV will be installed as trialware, they know that an AV product is essential see NAV and pick it up, or it is recommended and sold over the counter. There may be a nice mark-up in selling Symantec gear.

Moreover, it may be that customers would be less inclined to purchase an AV offer from a sales representative if they hadn’t heard of it before, so to play it safe and to maximise profit, NAV is a good bet for sales.

For non-savvy users NAV is ok. It certainly is better than nothing. The reason I moved over from NAV was its complete reliance on IE when my IE was busted. Also NAV always seemed to need repairing or uninstalling and reinstalling to fix a problem with it, was slow and flaky. I don’t like products that are closely dependent on IE, as just one example.

Another reason, as with hi-fi and the like, the best stuff out there is not know to joeblogs. So they will not have heard of Kaspersky, NOD32 or F-Secure. My favourites and recommendations.

Because these are powerful AV products, they will not work on all systems. There are too many imponderables and variables in hardware and software to cover during development. Unlike NAV, tech support is free and very responsive and helpful and they tend to have extensive KBs. Symantec is a nightmare for find a fix to a problem.

The only option is to try, see which one one prefers and then buy.

[dajogejr]

Completely agree....G.
I didn't say it was 100% the best. However, it's never let me down to date. I just wanted to try something new this go around....

That was more or less a remark about Intimidator's remark. Yes, they have a bandwagon and it's easily the largest out....

That's all....

It seems to be fine now...I'll keep on using it and see how it works out...

[G]

I knew where you were coming from daj.

intimidator was just having a bit of fun, that’s all :)

I hope KAV Personal works well or you. It really is that powerful as is F-Secure’s and NOD32’s.

Keep me posted on your impressions and when are you gonna get Genie BM from me? :)

Email me first if you decide yes, as I have some nice bundle not on the site, as of now.

[intimidator]

yeah, j/k :p :)

[dajogejr]

I played with a trial of that backup Genie.
Not for me...Between A regular True Image backup routine, backing up my third hard drive to DVD periodically...I'm all set....

KAV is working just fine now.....so, I have a month to make the decision.

Thanks...G!


Daj...

[G]

Daj wasn't it you that I advised to get True Image as you had just lost GB's of audio files?

I'm surprise in you; not the most forensic, considered or qualified reply to backup program test.

First you need to test over a longer period and secondly you are still not carrying out a backup routine that is regular or systematic it would seem.

Oh well, the data lost posts just keep on coming. When will users learn? The hard way it would seem to me.

I guess peoples data just isn't worth as most as mine is to me.

[intimidator]

LOL, you kill me sometimes.

G, you are way to intense. I have 3 drives one for the OS, one for storage & one pretty much just to clone to once per week. Thats all.......nice & simple, who needs some program constantly backing up their data in the background?? Businesses thats who. But a mirrored array & a tape backup handles that quite nicely for our customers.

I'm sure your prog is excellent but GEE WIZ!

[dajogejr]

G...
for one, I've NEVER lost data on any of my home PCs. You must be mistaken me for someone else...I suggest you look through you threads a little better.

The ONLY reason I switched to True Image is because no version of Ghost, which...I have not tried version 9 or newer, would not recognize my third hard drive, a Seagate. I swapped my 60GB Maxtor for a 80GB Segate because it was a steal. Since then, I've upgraded to a 200GB WD.

However, I do like the interface and scalability of True Image, so...I'll keep using that, as well as Ghost which I've used for years.

G...you've helped me in the past, there's not doubt. And I thank you for that. However, in reading most of your posts, which...I have all these years, you seem to think your way and your software and your answers are the only way to go.

And anyone that doesn't use it or practice your methods is an idiot or doesn't know what they are doing.

G...let me assue you that I'm neither. I'm a professional, this is my job, and I've been doing it for quite some time. I get paid to do this, it is NOT just a hobby.

I have a two raptors in RAID0 that EVERYONE says is unstable, yet it's never failed me in over two years. I have a third large hard drive to store my data, music, photos, etc. I image my array to this drive about every month. I burn my most important things, like photos and documents that I would miss...to a DVD about every month, too.

I have my routine.....and for years now it works just fine for me.

I can appreciate your advice and help...however, just because I don't do it your way, or use all of your software you suggest, (I do use a few of them...and thank you!!) doesn't mean I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

You can take that attitude with rookies or newbies...I'm neither...so be careful.

[Strawbs]

don't want to get involved in someone elses spat, but... 'twas me that lost approx. 1.5 GB of audio files 3 or more years ago! I remember XP deleted them all when I refused its offer to burn them to disk. :eek:

I use Acronis True Image v.8. for backups & I'm now up to over 5GB of audio files backed up regularly. :cool:

[dajogejr]

don't want to get involved in someone elses spat

No Spat...no worries.
Sounds like G was just having one of those days that we've ALL had a time or too, and came here to vent. No big deal...

Like I said earlier...I greatly appreciate his help and advice...but, we all know there's more than one way to skin a cat...each to our own likings, that's all...

[Strawbs]

Just found that old thread! It was actually 4GB of music = over 1000 tracks. :eek:

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119890

[dajogejr]

If there's one thing I can give G right now...it's memory.
Mabye not for the details....:)...but, a 2002 post...Geez.

That was before my time here at Sysopt...
:t

[G]

Fair enough Daj.

As it goes "you do it your way and I'II do it mine" :)

If I recall correctly you were having trouble imaging your RAID0 - may be to do with a failing HDD or something like that. I recommended True Image and you were happy that it was so easy and worked - yes?

[dajogejr]

Actually...no.
Because the P160 case has a 120 fan right in front of the hard drives, I neglected to give it a cleaning for a bit too long. The dust got on the contacts...and the drive started to fail. At the time, I was using Ghost and my old 60GB maxtor. I broke the array, and used Ghost to image my XP install back onto a single raptor without issue.
Once the WD warrantied drive appeared on my door, I created a fresh image from the single drive, created the 0 array, and put the image back on the "twins". I did not know I could use the same image on a single disk or doubles in a 0 array...I got lucky there.

Once I swapped my 60GB Maxtor with a 80GB Seagate, Ghost 2003 and Corp Edition 8 or 9 wouldn't work...it didn't see the seagate. True image did, worked like a champ, end of story. I picked up a 200GB WD from sam's club for about 90 bucks, I couldn't turn it down...so I replaced the Segate with the big boy. Haven't tried Ghost on the new WD drive, but...didn't see any point. I like the incremental backup the TI does that ghost doesn't. I'm sure ghost would work with the WD..but, no need.
It wasn't a problem with the array, rather Ghost not seein the Segate. All is well!

To each is own...old friend...:t

[pandaz3]

McAfee is very good at detection, but there is more to AV than just detection, the interface has to be usable. Norton is pretty usable, but only so so on detection, most interfaces have improved.

My IP, Comcast Cable, recently began offering McAffe free. So that is what I now use on my 32 bit sytems because it offers great detection and a good enough interface and did I mention it was free to me? I have to use Avast on my UL8 as it has Win XP x64 and I do not know of another AV right now that will work with x64. Avast is no better than Norton in detection.

[pandaz3]

Fair enough Daj.

As it goes "you do it your way and I'II do it mine" :)

If I recall correctly you were having trouble imaging your RAID0 - may be to do with a failing HDD or something like that. I recommended True Image and you were happy that it was so easy and worked - yes?


At first I thought you said 'Radio'..... about went into a gigglefit (when you try to stifle a laugh and can't) before I realized you had said RAID 0.

I could just see someone trying to image a radio. :D :D

[dajogejr]

That's funny...
In a few recent testings, McAffee didn't test as well as Norton home or corporate edition.

None of the freebies came close...

kaspersky scored at the top...and I've heard it raved about for a long time. That being said, Norton has never let me down. And yes, I run mulitple scans with other sites just to be sure.

I've had bad luck with McAffee...I won't touch it again. I'll price Kas, NAV and NOD32 soon enough, and go with what makes sense....

I do like how much more often Kas updates. Then again, NAV has never let me down. A toss up if you will...

Stay tuned....(yeah, I made a funny there...:) )

[pandaz3]

I think it depends on the tester and the test! These things can easily be skewed. I too have had years of good luck with Norton I recall buying the suite with Norton Navigator soon after win 95 came out... It allowed long filenames with FAT 16. and I would follow your direction if.... Did I mention free!