MJCfromCT
05-03-2005, 11:40 AM
So who are you guys voting for? :)
MSNBC says Blair has a 10 point lead right now. :eek:
MSNBC says Blair has a 10 point lead right now. :eek:
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tantone
05-03-2005, 12:34 PM
If I lived in England, which I don't, I'd cast a vote for Blair. I believe that the Conservatives would have done the exact same thing about the WMD's that they're trying to use against Blair. They're kinda like the US's uber-Republicans: if they do something there's a good reason and it was legit--if the other party does the exact same thing they're bad and wrong and making the country suffer. Two-faced.
And the Liberal Dems don't stand a chance in hell of winning that election. But in a close run they could pull votes from the Labour party and change the outcome of the election without actually winning anything.
And the Liberal Dems don't stand a chance in hell of winning that election. But in a close run they could pull votes from the Labour party and change the outcome of the election without actually winning anything.
MJCfromCT
05-03-2005, 12:41 PM
From what i've read it looks like Blair might have it simply because there isn't anyone 'good' running against him...
JM what are your thoughts? :)
JM what are your thoughts? :)
j.m@talk
05-03-2005, 12:46 PM
I'm goin Blair. :t
Michael Howard is a trusworthy as Michael Jackson :t
Michael Howard is a trusworthy as Michael Jackson :t
ukulele
05-03-2005, 12:49 PM
Elections? What happened to the queen? I'd vote for her. She needs a job, and give that goofy looking Charles something to do too besides pose for paparazis and sleep around town like some kind of perverted Don Juan. ;)
mireland
05-03-2005, 04:13 PM
they have elections over there?? I thought the mum ran the country?? :rolleyes:
zybch
05-03-2005, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by ukulele
Elections? What happened to the queen? I'd vote for her. She needs a job, and give that goofy looking Charles something to do too besides pose for paparazis and sleep around town like some kind of perverted Don Juan. ;)
They could strap him to the front of the QE2 and use his ears for sails if the diesel ran out.
As for the election, just like everywhere else, there realy isn't much of a difference between the parties any more. They're all right wing just like in the US and Australia where the jerks who got their countries into the whole Iraq thing were returned to power with increased majorities.
Having a good alternative candidate is important and all the opposition put up are fools with their charisma removed.
I don't think anyone doubts that Blair & Co will lose quite a few seats this time around, but its not going to be like the local election thingy last year where the lib-dems really screwed things up for blair.
Elections? What happened to the queen? I'd vote for her. She needs a job, and give that goofy looking Charles something to do too besides pose for paparazis and sleep around town like some kind of perverted Don Juan. ;)
They could strap him to the front of the QE2 and use his ears for sails if the diesel ran out.
As for the election, just like everywhere else, there realy isn't much of a difference between the parties any more. They're all right wing just like in the US and Australia where the jerks who got their countries into the whole Iraq thing were returned to power with increased majorities.
Having a good alternative candidate is important and all the opposition put up are fools with their charisma removed.
I don't think anyone doubts that Blair & Co will lose quite a few seats this time around, but its not going to be like the local election thingy last year where the lib-dems really screwed things up for blair.
j.m@talk
05-03-2005, 07:01 PM
Who gives a ferk (as long as Blair gets in) :t
mireland
05-03-2005, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by j.m@talk
Who gives a ferk (as long as Blair gets in) :t
yea, you should get Blair..why shoule WE be the only country with a moron for a leader?? :D
Who gives a ferk (as long as Blair gets in) :t
yea, you should get Blair..why shoule WE be the only country with a moron for a leader?? :D
j.m@talk
05-03-2005, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by mireland
yea, you should get Blair..why shoule WE be the only country with a moron for a leader?? :D
http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~suep/tom/PIX/your%20gay.JPG
yea, you should get Blair..why shoule WE be the only country with a moron for a leader?? :D
http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~suep/tom/PIX/your%20gay.JPG
mireland
05-03-2005, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by j.m@talk
http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~suep/tom/PIX/your%20gay.JPG
I expected a retort from you...though I'd prefered the bunny with the lipstick on his hiney...:p
http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~suep/tom/PIX/your%20gay.JPG
I expected a retort from you...though I'd prefered the bunny with the lipstick on his hiney...:p
j.m@talk
05-03-2005, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by mireland
I expected a retort from you...though I'd prefered the bunny with the lipstick on his hiney...:p
http://www.mopsnet.com/images/rs07.jpg
I expected a retort from you...though I'd prefered the bunny with the lipstick on his hiney...:p
http://www.mopsnet.com/images/rs07.jpg
mireland
05-03-2005, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by j.m@talk
http://www.mopsnet.com/images/rs07.jpg
I hope BLAIR does get elected..would serve you right! :mad:
:D
http://www.mopsnet.com/images/rs07.jpg
I hope BLAIR does get elected..would serve you right! :mad:
:D
j.m@talk
05-03-2005, 07:24 PM
Too right it would ......... Considering thats what I want )-|
Weiner :rolleyes:
:t
Weiner :rolleyes:
:t
mireland
05-03-2005, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by j.m@talk
Too right it would ......... Considering thats what I want )-|
Weiner :rolleyes:
:t
herbert tosspot! :-@
Too right it would ......... Considering thats what I want )-|
Weiner :rolleyes:
:t
herbert tosspot! :-@
zybch
05-03-2005, 07:27 PM
JM, please stop posting pics of your lover boy.
j.m@talk
05-03-2005, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by zybch
JM, please stop posting pics of your lover boy.
http://www.thomsonsecurity.com/sysopt/bunny.gif
JM, please stop posting pics of your lover boy.
http://www.thomsonsecurity.com/sysopt/bunny.gif
mireland
05-03-2005, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by j.m@talk
http://www.thomsonsecurity.com/sysopt/bunny.gif
THATS IT! :cool:
http://www.thomsonsecurity.com/sysopt/bunny.gif
THATS IT! :cool:
zybch
05-03-2005, 07:32 PM
Is that where he kisses, or where he gets kissed?!
j.m@talk
05-03-2005, 07:37 PM
I dunno )-|
tantone
05-04-2005, 12:05 PM
Both.
So, mireland, what's so wrong with Blair? Would you rather see the Lib Dems in power over there? Talk about a massive downhill slide.
So, mireland, what's so wrong with Blair? Would you rather see the Lib Dems in power over there? Talk about a massive downhill slide.
fishybawb
05-04-2005, 12:10 PM
The Lib Dems are getting my vote.
j.m@talk
05-04-2005, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by fishybawb
The Lib Dems are getting my vote.
Tory :rolleyes:
The Lib Dems are getting my vote.
Tory :rolleyes:
tantone
05-04-2005, 12:18 PM
The reason I like the Labour party over the other two is because they seem a bit more centered--the extremes scare me.
mireland
05-04-2005, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by j.m@talk
Tory :rolleyes:
that sounded pervy!:x
Tory :rolleyes:
that sounded pervy!:x
zybch
05-04-2005, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by tantone
The reason I like the Labour party over the other two is because they seem a bit more centered--the extremes scare me.
The liberal democrats position is what used to be the centre before ol maggie screwed things up. Since then there has been a huge leapfrog to the right to the benefit of only the rich.
The labor party in australia now stands where the liberal party (the most conservative party - australian humor perhaps) used to, on the centre-right.
The reason I like the Labour party over the other two is because they seem a bit more centered--the extremes scare me.
The liberal democrats position is what used to be the centre before ol maggie screwed things up. Since then there has been a huge leapfrog to the right to the benefit of only the rich.
The labor party in australia now stands where the liberal party (the most conservative party - australian humor perhaps) used to, on the centre-right.
leprechaun_40
05-04-2005, 06:13 PM
First we kill all the politicians................:D
tantone
05-04-2005, 07:33 PM
on the centre-right And it's a fantastic place to stand, too! The view is lovely from here as you can pick out the freaks on both sides.
werz
05-05-2005, 03:57 AM
Ya need the freaks to make life interesting.
porsch1909
05-05-2005, 06:14 AM
You vote for new labour you get the old conservatives :p
Keep blair in. Best leader in a while. Bar the war in Iraq i dont think he has done too much wrong.
50 succesive quarters of economic growth is not to bad, considering it has never been done before.
And frankly Michael Howard looks like he is going to kill everybody....he looks evil I tell yas!
I found some funny reading for you all. THe BNP manifesto and their arguments against multi-culturism......i got a few laughs out of it.....sorry many laughs :p
http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/manifesto/manf4.htm
I particularly like this quote :
We therefore believe that the myth that “we are all the same under the skin” will soon be as discredited as its feminist equivalent, and that all political parties will have to drastically amend their thinking to reflect the new reality in the not too distant future.
Keep blair in. Best leader in a while. Bar the war in Iraq i dont think he has done too much wrong.
50 succesive quarters of economic growth is not to bad, considering it has never been done before.
And frankly Michael Howard looks like he is going to kill everybody....he looks evil I tell yas!
I found some funny reading for you all. THe BNP manifesto and their arguments against multi-culturism......i got a few laughs out of it.....sorry many laughs :p
http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/manifesto/manf4.htm
I particularly like this quote :
We therefore believe that the myth that “we are all the same under the skin” will soon be as discredited as its feminist equivalent, and that all political parties will have to drastically amend their thinking to reflect the new reality in the not too distant future.
werz
05-05-2005, 07:22 AM
Dont start a discussion on the pluses or minuses of immigration porsch, all of us are racially motivated, in some way or other.
Where governments of all countries which accept large numbers of migrants went wrong was by stifling debate on a national level, by calling anyone who questioned what was happening as racist.
Making people scared to voice there opinions, politicians were easy to silence by accusations of racism instead of answering the questions they put about immigration.
This has now lead to an upsurge in anti immigration all over the world.
Open honest discussion is the healthy way to go, and political correctness is the wrong way to achieving a well adjusted multicultural society.
I agree with most of the link you posted, and the native born people of the high migration countries are the least racist of all the ethnic groups now living in the UK, USA and Australia.
Not allowing marriage out of a religion is racist, not learning the language of the host country and employing a person of the same race instead of the best qualified is racist.
But most of all, look how Christians would be treated in Moslem or Jewish states or in China, if they migrated there in large numbers.
Ask yourself would they be given the same opportunities as they gave migrants moving to a Christian country, where they were housed and given social security benefits on arrival, english language courses, allowed to take driving tests in foreign languages, and all the benefits they themselves were entitled to were given and assistance was offered to integrate the new races,
The UK like Australia was TB free, mass migration has put that back 50 years, now parts of London have rates as high as they were before pennicillin.
Mass murderers from the Balkans and Rwanda and other countries slip through, terrorists use there adopted countries to plot against them, it's a can of worms now precisely because of political correctness and lack of openess.
We have enough undereducated people already without importing them, qualifications should be the only criteria for accepting migrants, with a fixed amount of humanitarian refugees.
Where governments of all countries which accept large numbers of migrants went wrong was by stifling debate on a national level, by calling anyone who questioned what was happening as racist.
Making people scared to voice there opinions, politicians were easy to silence by accusations of racism instead of answering the questions they put about immigration.
This has now lead to an upsurge in anti immigration all over the world.
Open honest discussion is the healthy way to go, and political correctness is the wrong way to achieving a well adjusted multicultural society.
I agree with most of the link you posted, and the native born people of the high migration countries are the least racist of all the ethnic groups now living in the UK, USA and Australia.
Not allowing marriage out of a religion is racist, not learning the language of the host country and employing a person of the same race instead of the best qualified is racist.
But most of all, look how Christians would be treated in Moslem or Jewish states or in China, if they migrated there in large numbers.
Ask yourself would they be given the same opportunities as they gave migrants moving to a Christian country, where they were housed and given social security benefits on arrival, english language courses, allowed to take driving tests in foreign languages, and all the benefits they themselves were entitled to were given and assistance was offered to integrate the new races,
The UK like Australia was TB free, mass migration has put that back 50 years, now parts of London have rates as high as they were before pennicillin.
Mass murderers from the Balkans and Rwanda and other countries slip through, terrorists use there adopted countries to plot against them, it's a can of worms now precisely because of political correctness and lack of openess.
We have enough undereducated people already without importing them, qualifications should be the only criteria for accepting migrants, with a fixed amount of humanitarian refugees.
porsch1909
05-05-2005, 09:25 AM
You started the discussion not me. If i wanted to start a discussion about the pluses and/or minuses of immagration then i would have started a thread titled 'The pluses and/or minuses of immagration'
I will make this breif because you not being an ethnic minority really don't have a ferking clue about anything to be totally honest. and i draw that conclusion by your utterly stupid post.
Just because Christian migrating to other countries wouldn't get the warm welcome that Muslim or Jewish people etc. get in a christian country doesn't mean that i think or indeed it is right to treat imagrants badly.
If you agree with most of what is in the link then you are mostly racist. If the BNP party get into power then i will gladly move back to where my acestor lived. although i call scotland my home.
I will make this breif because you not being an ethnic minority really don't have a ferking clue about anything to be totally honest. and i draw that conclusion by your utterly stupid post.
Just because Christian migrating to other countries wouldn't get the warm welcome that Muslim or Jewish people etc. get in a christian country doesn't mean that i think or indeed it is right to treat imagrants badly.
If you agree with most of what is in the link then you are mostly racist. If the BNP party get into power then i will gladly move back to where my acestor lived. although i call scotland my home.
porsch1909
05-05-2005, 09:31 AM
6. We would abolish all laws against racial discrimination in employment and the government bodies associated with enforcing them.
Abolish laws against racial discrimination right.....thats not racist at all :rolleyes:
1. We would repeal the Race Relations Acts and all other restrictions on free speech in Britain .
Thats a great idea :rolleyes: then end is just BS. These BNP folk should go live in a dictatorship and see what restrictions on free speech are....
2. We would abolish all targets and quotas for ethnic representation in all areas of employment, public and private.
Fair enough, affirmative action (positive discrimination) is stupid
4. We would abolish all government-sponsored ethnicity-specific professional bodies, housing associations, and other organisations.
Why????!!?!
9. In order to make it clear that the “celebration of diversity” is something in which the native peoples of our islands can share, each of our traditional Saints Days would be made Public Holidays in the nations in question, with Trafalgar Day being an additional Public Holiday throughout the entire UK.
They just want extra holidays!
Putting the BNP in would be like having a Hitler in power....
Abolish laws against racial discrimination right.....thats not racist at all :rolleyes:
1. We would repeal the Race Relations Acts and all other restrictions on free speech in Britain .
Thats a great idea :rolleyes: then end is just BS. These BNP folk should go live in a dictatorship and see what restrictions on free speech are....
2. We would abolish all targets and quotas for ethnic representation in all areas of employment, public and private.
Fair enough, affirmative action (positive discrimination) is stupid
4. We would abolish all government-sponsored ethnicity-specific professional bodies, housing associations, and other organisations.
Why????!!?!
9. In order to make it clear that the “celebration of diversity” is something in which the native peoples of our islands can share, each of our traditional Saints Days would be made Public Holidays in the nations in question, with Trafalgar Day being an additional Public Holiday throughout the entire UK.
They just want extra holidays!
Putting the BNP in would be like having a Hitler in power....
tantone
05-05-2005, 10:35 AM
The whole race/immigration thing is messy.
This is probably just me being callous, but I always wonder what was SO bad or wrong about an immigrants own country that made them want to emigrate in the first place.
We have people who cross over from Mexico to take advantage of the opportunities here, then have the audacity to proudly display their Mexican flag outside their house. If Mexico was so great and something to be so proud of, why are they here? The patriot stays and helps make it better, they don't run away.
I knew a guy in the Marines (who, incidentally, got beat down on a few occasions) who had a big Mexican flag hanging inside his wall locker. The epitome of inappropriate.
This is probably just me being callous, but I always wonder what was SO bad or wrong about an immigrants own country that made them want to emigrate in the first place.
We have people who cross over from Mexico to take advantage of the opportunities here, then have the audacity to proudly display their Mexican flag outside their house. If Mexico was so great and something to be so proud of, why are they here? The patriot stays and helps make it better, they don't run away.
I knew a guy in the Marines (who, incidentally, got beat down on a few occasions) who had a big Mexican flag hanging inside his wall locker. The epitome of inappropriate.
porsch1909
05-05-2005, 10:41 AM
I would ask my grandad what is so bad about the 'homeland' But he isn't around anymore :(
tantone
05-05-2005, 10:41 AM
If the BNP party get into power then i will gladly move back to where my acestor lived Okay, Alec Baldwin, Jr.
Just go now. Why wait? You either call Scotland your home and are willing to weather the bad and the good, or you're a front-runner immigrant.
Just go now. Why wait? You either call Scotland your home and are willing to weather the bad and the good, or you're a front-runner immigrant.
porsch1909
05-05-2005, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by tantone
Okay, Alec Baldwin, Jr.
Just go now. Why wait? You either call Scotland your home and are willing to weather the bad and the good, or you're a front-runner immigrant.
If the BNP party got into power and i stayed. Then it would be like a jewish person staying in Germany during World war 2....
i.e. stupid. I may be many thing but although you all may disagree i am not stupid. And i value my life and my family's lifes.
I thought i was zybch 2. now i am am Alec Baldwin, Jr....I'll need to look up who that actually is.....:p
Okay, Alec Baldwin, Jr.
Just go now. Why wait? You either call Scotland your home and are willing to weather the bad and the good, or you're a front-runner immigrant.
If the BNP party got into power and i stayed. Then it would be like a jewish person staying in Germany during World war 2....
i.e. stupid. I may be many thing but although you all may disagree i am not stupid. And i value my life and my family's lifes.
I thought i was zybch 2. now i am am Alec Baldwin, Jr....I'll need to look up who that actually is.....:p
genesound
05-05-2005, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by tantone
The whole race/immigration thing is messy.
This is probably just me being callous, but I always wonder what was SO bad or wrong about an immigrants own country that made them want to emigrate in the first place.
We have people who cross over from Mexico to take advantage of the opportunities here, then have the audacity to proudly display their Mexican flag outside their house. If Mexico was so great and something to be so proud of, why are they here? The patriot stays and helps make it better, they don't run away.
I knew a guy in the Marines (who, incidentally, got beat down on a few occasions) who had a big Mexican flag hanging inside his wall locker. The epitome of inappropriate. Aint it the truth!
I can't understand why they'd want to come here and be apart from instead of a part of.
I say either get wiv the program or go home.
The whole race/immigration thing is messy.
This is probably just me being callous, but I always wonder what was SO bad or wrong about an immigrants own country that made them want to emigrate in the first place.
We have people who cross over from Mexico to take advantage of the opportunities here, then have the audacity to proudly display their Mexican flag outside their house. If Mexico was so great and something to be so proud of, why are they here? The patriot stays and helps make it better, they don't run away.
I knew a guy in the Marines (who, incidentally, got beat down on a few occasions) who had a big Mexican flag hanging inside his wall locker. The epitome of inappropriate. Aint it the truth!
I can't understand why they'd want to come here and be apart from instead of a part of.
I say either get wiv the program or go home.
tantone
05-05-2005, 10:52 AM
now i am am Alec Baldwin, Jr....I'll need to look up who that actually is..... He's the great actor, flaming liberal weiner, who said he would move to Germany if GWB was elected over Gore in 2000. He's still here.
porsch1909
05-05-2005, 10:53 AM
He was in pearl harbour wasnt he.....Was a good movie....:p
He only has a daughter i think though.....
and last time i checked im a guy :)
and still a guy....:r
He only has a daughter i think though.....
and last time i checked im a guy :)
and still a guy....:r
tantone
05-05-2005, 11:04 AM
Try this. Pull up Google and type in "alec baldwin"
and I have no clue if he has a daughter, although he used to be married to kim basinger
and I have no clue if he has a daughter, although he used to be married to kim basinger
porsch1909
05-05-2005, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by tantone
Try this. Pull up Google and type in "alec baldwin"
and I have no clue if he has a daughter, although he used to be married to kim basinger
Thats how i found out he had a daughter......
Try this. Pull up Google and type in "alec baldwin"
and I have no clue if he has a daughter, although he used to be married to kim basinger
Thats how i found out he had a daughter......
tantone
05-05-2005, 11:40 AM
My fault...I had totally forgotten that he was in Pearl Harbor. He played Jimmy Doolittle.
werz
05-06-2005, 05:54 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by porsch1909
[B]
I will make this breif because you not being an ethnic minority really don't have a ferking clue about anything to be totally honest. and i draw that conclusion by your utterly stupid post.
Just because Christian migrating to other countries wouldn't get the warm welcome that Muslim or Jewish people etc. get in a christian country doesn't mean that i think or indeed it is right to treat imagrants badly.
We give migrants subsidised housing, full health care and social security payments, with no time limit, many stay on them for many years and never contribute to the society they move to.
Why do illegal immigrants risk the perils of reaching Aust or the UK, precisely for the extra help the state gives,
What I did say was political correctness and a national debate on such an important issue as changing the national character of a country was stifled by it, and the fear of being labeled a racist, like you have just done to me without answering anything I said about the mess race laws and political correctness have made to free speech.
I agree with immigration with strict criteria that potential migrants are educated enough to participate, do not have criminal records or communicable diseases such as HIV/AIDS or TB, and whatever other diseases that are not present in the country they wish to live in.
Also the try to accept the laws and customs of there adopted country.
[B]
I will make this breif because you not being an ethnic minority really don't have a ferking clue about anything to be totally honest. and i draw that conclusion by your utterly stupid post.
Just because Christian migrating to other countries wouldn't get the warm welcome that Muslim or Jewish people etc. get in a christian country doesn't mean that i think or indeed it is right to treat imagrants badly.
We give migrants subsidised housing, full health care and social security payments, with no time limit, many stay on them for many years and never contribute to the society they move to.
Why do illegal immigrants risk the perils of reaching Aust or the UK, precisely for the extra help the state gives,
What I did say was political correctness and a national debate on such an important issue as changing the national character of a country was stifled by it, and the fear of being labeled a racist, like you have just done to me without answering anything I said about the mess race laws and political correctness have made to free speech.
I agree with immigration with strict criteria that potential migrants are educated enough to participate, do not have criminal records or communicable diseases such as HIV/AIDS or TB, and whatever other diseases that are not present in the country they wish to live in.
Also the try to accept the laws and customs of there adopted country.
porsch1909
05-06-2005, 06:10 AM
Labour won.....
zybch
05-06-2005, 07:36 AM
I'm not sure how starting out with a 166 majority and now having a 60ish one is winning in a good way.
Its a good thing they don't appear to have a preferential voting system over there or Blair would be out on his backside.
Its a good thing they don't appear to have a preferential voting system over there or Blair would be out on his backside.
porsch1909
05-06-2005, 08:26 AM
Until there is a real alternative to Labour, then Labour will keep winning....
The leader of the opposition has said he will now step down....maybe bring somebody in who doesn't have a really bad track record.
And Tony Blair has said he won't run for another general election....
The leader of the opposition has said he will now step down....maybe bring somebody in who doesn't have a really bad track record.
And Tony Blair has said he won't run for another general election....
zybch
05-06-2005, 08:43 AM
John Howard, our PM, said that he'd retire on his 60something birthday. He didn't. Blair will stay in the job as long as he can no matter what he promised.
After all, hes a politician and it causes them physical pain to tell the truth.
After all, hes a politician and it causes them physical pain to tell the truth.
fishybawb
05-06-2005, 08:55 AM
Blair will move over to let Brown lead the party after a year or so is the current reckoning.
mireland
05-06-2005, 09:09 AM
interesting system England has over there..sounds almost as screwed up as our system here! :D
fishybawb
05-06-2005, 09:19 AM
The best part is that once the elections are over, the Queen invites the winner over to the palace to ask who has the majority of the country's backing. They reply "Me ma'am" (or words to that effect), and then she officially makes them prime minister. What that achieves exactly (other than getting the lazy cow out of bed) is beyond me...
j.m@talk
05-06-2005, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by mireland
interesting system England has over there..sounds almost as screwed up as our system here! :D
Err no :mad:
Nooooooo Nooooooooo Nooooooooo :t
interesting system England has over there..sounds almost as screwed up as our system here! :D
Err no :mad:
Nooooooo Nooooooooo Nooooooooo :t
tantone
05-06-2005, 09:49 AM
You only say no because it's yours.
Yeah, I don't see the point in the tradition of getting permission from the monarchy to form a gov't from the majority party in the house of commons. What service, other than tradition, does the queen serve?
Now, see that jm? Right there. At least our elected party leader doesn't have to go to some old birth-right windbag to ask permission to do what the people have already given him permission to do.
Yeah, I don't see the point in the tradition of getting permission from the monarchy to form a gov't from the majority party in the house of commons. What service, other than tradition, does the queen serve?
Now, see that jm? Right there. At least our elected party leader doesn't have to go to some old birth-right windbag to ask permission to do what the people have already given him permission to do.
mireland
05-06-2005, 09:50 AM
so England has a Monarchy and a Democracy at the same time...silly...:confused:
DozerLYP
05-06-2005, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by mireland
interesting system England has over there..sounds almost as screwed up as our system here! :D
is it just like here in Florida?
interesting system England has over there..sounds almost as screwed up as our system here! :D
is it just like here in Florida?
fishybawb
05-06-2005, 09:54 AM
Yeah, it's a demonarchy. Or is that monacracy? Anyhoo, we only keep the wrinkled old hag and her inbred family here to drag in gullible American tourists ;)
tantone
05-06-2005, 10:04 AM
And we flock like the "salmon of capistrano" to see Buckingham palace and those q-tip guards.
genesound
05-06-2005, 10:31 AM
LOL :D
j.m@talk
05-06-2005, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by tantone
And we flock like the "salmon of capistrano" to see Buckingham palace and those q-tip guards.
Hey I wouldn't mess wiv Batman either....... They kicked the living yaddas outta Robin tho :D
And we flock like the "salmon of capistrano" to see Buckingham palace and those q-tip guards.
Hey I wouldn't mess wiv Batman either....... They kicked the living yaddas outta Robin tho :D
tantone
05-06-2005, 03:57 PM
That's cuz robin was a fairy.
I think he was the woman in the relationship.
I think he was the woman in the relationship.
Kandar
05-06-2005, 06:38 PM
What do you expect from a country when the majority of its population are lazy little burbery wearing scum bags working the system to get a fortune from government handouts or they can't be bothered to vote at all. :mad:
I would remove ALL benifits and fine everyone who did not turn out to vote. :mad:
I would remove ALL benifits and fine everyone who did not turn out to vote. :mad:
werz
05-07-2005, 07:00 AM
All born in the Thatcher era.
porsch1909
05-07-2005, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by Kandar
What do you expect from a country when the majority of its population are lazy little burbery wearing scum bags working the system to get a fortune from government handouts or they can't be bothered to vote at all. :mad:
I would remove ALL benifits and fine everyone who did not turn out to vote. :mad:
Dont Australia do the finning thing if you don't vote?
What do you expect from a country when the majority of its population are lazy little burbery wearing scum bags working the system to get a fortune from government handouts or they can't be bothered to vote at all. :mad:
I would remove ALL benifits and fine everyone who did not turn out to vote. :mad:
Dont Australia do the finning thing if you don't vote?
werz
05-07-2005, 01:17 PM
yes. But an absentee vote is easy to do, you just go to an electoral office, which are located in every area and easy to find, tell them you will be away on the election day then fill out the ballot paper and vote, if you are in the country you can go to any voting station and give your address and vote from there, you get used to it.
If you dont want to vote for the candidates available you still must vote but write your objection, or just put the blank ballot paper in the box
As long as you have veen marked as turning up to vote there's no fine.
If you dont want to vote for the candidates available you still must vote but write your objection, or just put the blank ballot paper in the box
As long as you have veen marked as turning up to vote there's no fine.
porsch1909
05-07-2005, 01:24 PM
I thought the idea of democracy was having the right to vote. But you don't have to excercise your right to vote....
I agree whoel heartedly with the policy anyway, the UK should try something like it....
I agree whoel heartedly with the policy anyway, the UK should try something like it....
zybch
05-07-2005, 06:50 PM
I'm not in the mood to bash Bush right now, but he was elected into office before 911 by less than 17% of the country (51% of the 30% of people who bothered to vote).
Manditory voting would probably have resulted in a different outcome, as would using paper ballots rather than voting machines that seemed to only make errors that benefitted one particular candidate, and not the other.
A bit like how youe relephone bill is always wrong and always in favour of the telephone company, not you.
There are people that go on about making voting non-manditory, but as soon as you do that, you cannot be assured that the results really are the will of the people.
Manditory voting would probably have resulted in a different outcome, as would using paper ballots rather than voting machines that seemed to only make errors that benefitted one particular candidate, and not the other.
A bit like how youe relephone bill is always wrong and always in favour of the telephone company, not you.
There are people that go on about making voting non-manditory, but as soon as you do that, you cannot be assured that the results really are the will of the people.
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