Front Page 2000, Whats The Next Easiest For Me To Learn?

[Baddog]

I'm using Front Page 2000, Whats The Next Easiest For Me To Learn? I'm bored with FP 2000.:rolleyes:

[fancyf]

bored http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/smiley9.gif

so you're ready to code? no more wysiwyg interface http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/confused4f.gif

ScaryBinary posted a few good links in the sticky (http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=177404); under Editors and IDEs.
This one seems pretty good and is free: HTML-Kit (http://www.chami.com/html-kit/)

http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/cool_shades.gif

[tantone]

If FP2000 bores you, and you're into web design, I suggest hitting some of the XHTML/CSS tutorial links and learn how to do it for real. I never even bothered with FP because the learning curve to do more than just a basic web page was steeper than learning the code itself.

You'll find that a lot of the serious web designers out there will code by hand using some app that helps color-code their code to make it easier to troubleshoot errors.

Hand-coding is the best way to get a page to do EXACTLY what you want.

If you're unfamiliar with CSS, check out www.csszengarden.com

[fishybawb]

Ditto what tantone said, get into CSS. Using it for your page's layout instead of tables is A Good Thing:

http://www.glish.com/css/

I used to use some syntax highlighting editors, but Notepad works just fine, and you don't even need to download anything :)

[ScaryBinary]

Frontpage is the root of all evil!!!!

Like the others said, just dive in and manually generate your HTML and CSS yourself. I quickly discovered that Frontpage adds so much unnecessary garbage to HTML...you'll be able to do exactly what you want as well as make pages that are much more elegant and easy to read if you do it yourself.

Besides, it's fun. I'm working on a sample page that uses nothing but HTML and CSS to render forms - NO TABLES. I bit tougher, but pretty cool. I'll post it when I'm done...! OK, maybe I just don't have a life.

fancyf
ScaryBinary posted a few good links....

A few good!?!? They're all good! :p

[tantone]

Here are two small-scale examples of pages with no tables and only valid XHTML strict and valid CSS (ok--ignore the things that invalidate my CSS, they're choices not bad coding)
My personal site (http://www.taylorandjanet.com)
One I'm working on for someone else (http://www.donnaomar.com/main.shtml)

[ScaryBinary]

Very nice tantone!

[fancyf]

Originally posted by ScaryBinary

A few good!?!? They're all good! :p hihihi ...... yea they are ;) I just never dug into all that manual coding.. after the php/mysql/html crash course / e-commerce site I had to do a few years back I decided frontpage - for my pleasure - was enough :p but they are indeed ALL good :t


* yep tantone's site is great and well done!

[Baddog]

Thank you all for your comments. Playing with CSS now. Trying to learn the basics. I am doing a lot of cutting and pasting to see what each code does. Once I figure it out I will convert my website ( www.goodmantruck.com ) over to it. Any suggestions will be appreciated. I will be using a lot of Frames, Thumbnails, And Hyperlinks. Nice Sites Tantone:t

[Baddog]

Just wondering....Is there any type of "converter" that will convert htm to CSS?:)

[ScaryBinary]

Originally posted by Baddog
Just wondering....Is there any type of "converter" that will convert htm to CSS?:)

They are two different things. HTML defines the structure and contents of your webpage - paragraphs, headers, etc. CSS defines the "looks" of your site, such as the colors, positions of things, etc. For example, you'd use HTML to make a paragraph saying "Hello World!" like:<p class="myParagraph">Hello World!</p>That just defines what the paragraph is. You'd then use CSS to make the paragraph's text bold and green:p.myParagraph
{
font-weight: bold ;
color: green ;
}
You won't get a feel for how incredibly powerful this is until you read a few tutorials and create a few sample pages yourself. What my above example means is that anytime I want a paragraph that has bold green text, I can just class it as "myParagraph" -- I don't need to add a <FONT> tag for every single paragraph. This in turn means that if I decide I really want all these paragraphs blue, I only have to change the one line in my CSS style to "color: blue;" instead of every <FONT> tag in every applicable paragraph.

I gotta run right now, but look around at Webmonkey (http://www.webmonkey.com) and do some Google searches for CSS an HTML tutorials to get a feel for when each is used and for what.

[tantone]

Take a look at that site I posted called www.csszengarden.com

You'll see different versions listed on the right along with their authors.

Keep in mind that each of those versions is using the EXACT same html code. The only thing they're changing is the CSS document. That's the point of the site.