How old are you ?

[Stan]

Just to know how deep your wisdom is...

I am 25 (26 in November) and I started "playing" with PC's 3 years ago

Stan

[drdeath]

19 (not 20 until next july... /forum/frown.gif) been working with/on pcs since i was about 10 or 11

[Dominus]

Age shouldn't be considered synonymous with wisdom. If you have the know-how & the maturity, then age shouldn't matter.

I'm 16, and have been using computers for longer than I can remember. Probably started when I was 6 or 7.

[Stan]

Sorry about the confusion. Be sure that I do not associate wisdom and age, being quite young myself.

Stan

[800XL]

I'm 26.5 (almost to the day). I started using computers when I was 7 or so. Not long and I can claim 20 years of experience.

[Andre]

I agree. Age does not equal knowlegde!

I´m 16 and started working with PC´s at an age of 10 or 11.
Now i have a job in the computer department at a big company in Denmark. Beside that I go to school.

..edit..

I hope everyone knows that i wasn´t trying to breg or anything (did i spell "brag" right?) Just trying to make a point about the age!

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[TigerStrike2]

I'm 19... but I have the wisdom of a 70 year old and the energy of a 5 year old.. or maybe it is the other way around... ****

[MAGIC 8-BALL and THE ELF]

Older than you. - Elf

Older than dirt. - 8-Ball

[stu]

ok I'm 33 ...does that make me sad...no...but I remeber programming in BASIC by marking cards and then running them through a card reader.... how old do I feel - and young you are !

[stu]

ENJOY your youth ! It goes quickly

[dawgtuff]

If 8-Ball's older than dirt,I'm older than the Sun.
PS.Stan, there's a difference between wisdom and knowledge(I may have opened up a can of worms on this one!).....DawgTuff.

[Joel Kleppinger]

20.44 or so /forum/smile.gif

I've noticed it's almost always the young ones claiming that age doesn't matter for Wisdom, yet the older people get, the more they have seen and done, giving them a greater opportunity to be wiser. Of course, there are many older people that didn't bother gathering wisdom, but there are many more that have. I suggest spending time with those older people that may be considered "out of touch." They often have many words of wisdom regarding what we're going through.

The future is often (many times too often) just the past replayed with different characters and different details.

Regarding Wisdom vs. knowledge, there's a massive difference. And there's often a large difference between knowledge and truth. I've always defined knowledge as our perception of truth.

dawgtuff: I just took your can of worms and multiplied it. /forum/smile.gif

[chad174]

im 15, and ive been messing with comps for like 3 years now..

[CMonster]

23 -or-so -years ago: I waited in line to see a movie called "Star Wars."

A few months later I found myself in an old VW bus, touring Indian reservations and attending mitotes in search of the deeper truths.

I had read the Bhagavad-Gita, memorized the Tao Te Ching, voraciously studied the works of Carlos Casteneda, and had just begun digesting parts of the Bible...

That was an eternity ago... when I still had hair, and too much of it...

When you are young days fly by and years take long to pass...

When you are old years fly by and days can drag on like an eternity, especially the 30 minutes before your day off - when God slows down time just to tease you.

Young ones, seize every minute of your time - days fly by, err too you will grow old - see how the frost glitters on the grass that was once green....

BTW, computers were foisted on me in 1981 and though I sought to flee the on-coming tyranny, I was unable to escape - so I surrendered about 4 years ago...hey, if you can't beat um - join um.

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[AuraEdge]

16 point sumthin
I dunno
Nov 5 82
/forum/smile.gif
Jersey bites
I hafta wait til 17 to drive
Its not fair.
grr

[Eli]

I'm 20 plus a month and a half. I've been playing with computers for only about 3-4 years now... Unless you count my ol C64 days. (I wouldn't.)

[Dukhunter1]

I'm 33 and been into computers for about 8 years but still learning every day.. its always a learning experience..LOL

[bringspeed]

hah! i'm the only one here who is 18! some older, some younger, but none the same! hee hee hee, as if it mattered.

[reddog4629]

46-My first computer experience in college was an IBM 1170-8K core mem.,punched cards,and a disk drive bout the size of a dishwasher-1/2 meg.I think. Programs were written in 12 bit machine code.Took about 3hrs. to crunch a simple 1st. order differential equation! A year later we could use the mainframe IBM 370,Basic and FortranIV-wo! Then I worked with Data General "mini's" for 12 years-same assembly and machine code stuff (16bit) and DG's "Dos". Got away from it till about 10mths.ago and here comes w"95&'98.Different ball game. You young guys got it made right now but in 20yrs. you will be talking like me-ancient history stuff.YeeeeeeeHaaaaaaa /forum/biggrin.gif Good luck.

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[hydraulic]

So far I have not noticed anybody older then I, That hurts!.

[CMonster]

I did not say that I was 23!

My first computer was a marvel - the CPU was integrated in a network of almost 1 trillion neurons - still using it, but I have shorted out a few circuits by now.

Before Abraham was, I AM,

Before mountains had turned into sand,

Before babies had cried,

Before people had died,

Before trees were even seeds;

Before stars in the heaven did shine,

Before the sun gave light to the sky,

Before Abraham was, I AM.

Tell them "I AM" sent you.


http://www.tucson-sunset.com/image/rs8.jpg


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[SoopaStar]

I am 23.75 years old. I will be 24 on December 2. I expect gifts. /forum/smile.gif I started playing with computer back around 1981/82 when I was in Kindergarten. That doesnt count the Atari 2600. That was my first apple. (pretty sure thats 82 right?). Didn't get into them hardcore until I was 13 or 14 when I got my first 80386 SX 16 with 5 megs of RAM and a 20 gig hd (later upped to a 120!!). i even had 256 colors. it rocked. Used that up until 1997 when I got my P120. I was flying. Had a faster computer than dads. still do..he just cant keep up. gotta give props to my father for getting me hooked on this stuff. Air Force did it for him. Dont think much of this has anything todo with the topic..but I felt like typing.

--SS--

[MrEd]

24 (25 in December). Been working with PC's since I was 15. Back when DOS and BASIC was cool!!!

[MadMatt]

I'm 29 for about 2 more weeks.

I remember being really excited about upgrading TO a Commodore VIC-20 (from a Commodore PET).

[MrEd]

Hey CMonster, instead of all the clues, just do like my dad did, and stop counting at 32. Even I don't know how old he really is, 40 something I'm sure. If you ask him to this day, he'll say "32 of course".

-MrEd
/forum/smile.gif

[Mntsnow]

Well I am 32! 5/67 if you really needed to know /forum/biggrin.gif been "into" computers for about 2 years but have "played" with them since I was about 15!

Mntsnow

[U-96]

27.5 (that kinda seems to be a median on the board /forum/smile.gif ).
Had an Acorn Electron in 1983 (that would make me eleven at the time) and learned a bit of BASIC on it. I gave up programming when my brother (three years younger) started doing assembly language.
Hardware-wise, I've always been handy with a screwdriver and a multimeter (my dad is an electrical engineer), but only had the money to build my own PC this year.
I've messed with apps and OSs for years though /forum/smile.gif

U-96


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[AuraEdge]

Woah..Ive been 'into comps' for about 8 months and 'playing' with comps since april (6 months?)
in the first two months i learned how to build my own comp and clock it
The rest i learned after that on my home made rig /forum/smile.gif

[welsh wizard]

Man I think I'll have to change handle to Grandpa, so you can all guess, but I will tell you I can remeber singing along to Bill on a 75rpm "Rock around the Clock" and if you don't know what a 75 is ask you Da.
WW

[JerseyJoe]

The memories you bring back welsh, I might have to use my aarp card to wipe the tears from my eyes (though I like Carl Perkins more than Bill).

[mudoggy]

Hahahaha like the AARP card comment.. still snickering.. I'll think of that one all day at work.. thanks for the rainy day pick up! /forum/smile.gif
Just turned 26 here.. played with these beast since the C64 days (ahhh I miss Loderunner, Jumpman, Raid on Bungling Bay, and Beach Head...) Bought a PC after col. grad in 96, and built my first one a few months ago with all your posts! (And a lot of trial and error = swearing) /forum/biggrin.gif

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[dkozloski]

I am 59, the first computer I worked on was made by The Ford Instrument Co. and was linkages, cams, gears, cogwheels, and synchros. Naval gun fire control and would put the first shot within 25 yds. at a range of 5000 yds.

[Andre]

Of course it´s the young ones that say that age doesn´t matter. But we have too. Maybe not on this board, but in many other situations people stare at you when they see you, just ´cuz you´re so young and you have to repair their comp. They really don´t like it although it´s not even their comp.

I know that I don´t have a clue how the world is build, but i know how a comp is, so that should matter here.
If we are talking life experince... well then I really don´t have much!

I have no problem taking advice from someone younger or older than me, but not all are like that, so I don´t hope that knowing eachothers age will ruin some very good cooperation on this board.

[Nutcase]

Well Im 16.3 (I think) hehe its 6/16/83 and I cant drive either!! Not till December at least... hehe ;-)

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[Joel Kleppinger]

Andre: The key is the difference between Wisdom and knowledge: Knowing how to overclock is knowledge, but knowing when to stop is wisdom. /forum/smile.gif

I was describing Wisdom, not knowledge when mentioning youth....

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[Ceeffa]

30 my first computer was also a VIC 20

[AndreBranco]

24.

[mike L]

37. And wished I learned about these things alot sooner, oh well your never to old to learn. (except maybe DOS).

[MrFrost]

I'm 50. Wisdom is a product of not only Knowledge but Experience. Maturity has little to do with it since I know a snoot-full of adults who are more like children than children.
Naturally, experience can't be bought, taught or gotten NOW. Only with time itself.

I started in computers back when you had to build em yourself - and then they only had a led display, no memory, no storage. You had to reprogram that mother each and every time you turned it on. And if you miskeyed....well, that's the breaks.

[Susan]

39 and have been working with computers (mostly data entry) since I was 24.

I started getting into the hardware end about three years ago and the learning has never stopped /forum/smile.gif



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[Dash709]

Im 14 and 1/4 =). Started screwin around with computers around 1991, Packard Bell 486/sx 25 (Advertised as 33, we where gipped!!, or maybe the beginning if remarking??). 4megs of Ram, 120meg HD, 2x Cdrom !!, Boy that thing was a killer in its day =). I learned Basic on it, learned how to tell a good brand from a bad brand (packard bell). Then in 96 I bought a new 120/16meg/1.2gig, Also fast, that was when it cost me about $300 for 16megs =), ah the bad memories. And just last year, I built a new comp, Amd k6-2 300 -> 400, 128megs, 6.4gig. Crackin RC5 =). Im startin to learn Python scripting language, I used to know Pascal, and C.. well it was just too hard a year ago =). Wow this seems to have gone on long.. oh well

[Rookie]

41, started fooling with comps in April of this year. Been blue colar all my life- and a landscape contractor for the last 6 yrs. Gave it up due to the draught. Not as esoteric as Cmonster but am an EST gradutate, Aug 79. Tony Robbins infulenced me enough to start my own business. NLP gives me the chutzpa to think I can start over in the IT field. First impressions of my job search seems to confirm age discrimination is a real issue. Except where Linux is concerned- was told if I learn Apache admin I can get hired without all the MSCE BS- note: I wont have to wear a suit either. Better stop now as the talent screening people can read everything we ever posted if its saved in an archive...

[clough]

I'm 37 and don't think age has anything to do with wisdom.I think wisdom comes with having common sense.

[Dreadnaught]

I'm 40. Computers have been messing with me since '83.

Wisdom...ummm...???

Later...Paul

[lance201]

34 ... but still a child in mind

without this this computerstuff would have kill me decades ago!

LCPL Twenty

[welsh wizard]

to Jersey Joe
I give you my Support over Carl Perkins only used Bill as till the the best on offer was Little Brown Jug, or Blue eyes, man if I had known about The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, "Buddy Holly" and a few more I would have been using the 78 for them Ah h**l 45 by then.
to Mike L
It's never to late to learn DOS it's still one of the most powerfull tools on your computer ,window may stop working but how do you fix it you go to DOS!
As for the others A few starting to make me happier about age at least some are older than my other half, so one does'nt fealt that far up the stairway to heaven.

[Livewire]

I spent 10 years in culinary arts. Arrived at the plateau, looked around and decided it was time to learn something new. The "Quest" the "Search for Truth" that's what I'm here after. So I brushed the dust off and dove back in and I can't get enough that's about the size of it. Oh, what was the question? I'm old enough to break off on tangent, But still young enough to remember what's going on. Livewire ;28

[krusty]

tirty tree & 2 turds

[lost1]

37 (38 on Dec 1st)- my first computer was an Apple II in 1979- that baby had 48K of RAM and dual, that's right, DUAL 5 1/4 floppies! Man I was bad to the bone! Been fooling with these things ever since. Still remember enthusiastically blazing trail on the BBS's with my 300 baud modem (with its frequent character floods due to line static)- now I get bent out of shape if my satellite downloads drop below 400k/sec. So much for patience...
Wisdom has evaded me over the years, however guile, tact, and deception have served me well and fill the void nicely when required /forum/smile.gif

[Ed_S]

I'm 40 & been into computers since '83

[nilknarf]

dawgtuff, you said something about opening a can of worms.....

I'm 21.5, been playing on computers since about 1985, had a TRS-80 Color then, been working on and programming them since about 1989. Last job, I was the technician for the company. I set up and maintained all the networks for our customers and my system design recommendations were well respected by customers and suppliers. I had to make sure that our customers' 200+ networks throughout North America were never down for more than 24 hours. Currently, I'm one of two persons responsible for all computers, phones, and AV equipment throughout a local municipality. This includes NT, Netware, and Unix servers as well as nearly 100 workstations. (who cares, right)

When it comes to wisdom...

Wisdom comes with age.

I'm young.

I'm considered to be a genius by nearly everyone I know.

I still have much to learn.

Life is what happens while you are making other plans.

Timing is everything.

It's who you know, not what you know.

Don't try to be a great man, just be a man and let history make its own judgments.

Anything worth doing is worth doing right.

A college degree just means you can read, write, memorize, and sometimes think.
Expirience means you know what you're doing.

Say what you mean, mean what you say.

Wisdom comes with age.

Could it be the reason that us youngsters think we're wise is because the older, and wiser ones are imparting their wisdom to us while we're still very young?

...what was that about a can of worms being multiplied...

[jokostel]

im 16 and have been working with computers since I was around 5 built my first when i was like 8 or 9

[Yoda]

My body is 42, my age adapts to every situation i am in . Sometimes i act as if i was 8 yeras old and sometimes as if i were 60.
My computer experience exceeds 20 years, but that doesn't matter. It's not how long you do it, but WHAT you DO that counts.

As for knowledge and Wisdom. If you have the right mind as you struggle through life, you will gain knowledge and wisdom.

Wisdom is knowing how and when to use your knowledge to reach your goals.

Youngsters often think they are wise, cuz their reflection is too small. It's normal.
The more you'll learn, the more your reflection will grow and you'll discover that in fact you know nothing at all.

We can't change that. That's up to our CREATOR!!

Stay healthy and try to exploit your talents.

So long

[Moe]

Well let's see... i'm like 18 point something, and i've been tinkering with computers since I was 7. Man, my first OS was MS-DOS 2.01, scary stuff.

What was everyone else's first OS?

[nilknarf]

First OS?

Whatever the Z80 os was.

I've worked with most of the major PC os's.

MS-DOS 3.30 to 6.22
Windows 3.1 to 95/98/NT4 (haven't gotten to w2k)
Unix & Linux

Also used Apple & Mac

Who's next?

[JerseyJoe]

I cann't remember the name of the first few OS's I worked with (if I ever really knew those names). First language I learned was Fortran II.

With respect to PC's I have been working with dos since version 2.0

[apollo11]

Rather than getting sentimental I will just say that I am not the youngest here and am happy for it - woohoo.

[Pseo15]

I am still a little sperm. U guys dont think thats disgusting do u? im slippery and slimy, but my flagella can wiggle faster than your puny legs. Ok so my age, what that makes me 95? yea give or take a few 95 million electron years should do it. I CANT BELEIVE I MADE A FREAKING COMPUTER!!!

[jokostel]

i am as old as the sun... as old as the dirt i am as old as man... I am man.

[Lisa]

Sounds like one of the age checks on IRC hehee... anyways, I'm 31/f and been on the computers and learning since the 2400 baud modem was the big thing going hehee... I agree with YTada above but with a few added words... Everything is a Live and Learn situaton (thats how I learned the PC) and what one wise person told me (as I think him to be) "There's only one stupid question is this world and that is a question unasked"... I'm surely not the wisest on computers, but also not the most illiterate on them, I'm hear to ask ? as much to answer them (if I can)....

[Lisa]

(sorry for the DBL post)

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[Lisa]

(sorry for the triple post, now I feel bad hehee)

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[simon]

30 Long years - first computer Sinclair ZX80. Upgraded to a Dragon 32 - then Xenix

[IRED]

Old enough to know better but to young to resist.


The Seventies were VEEEEERY good to me.


{The Sixties were kin'da nice to}


The Eighties were nothing to sneeze at.


An the Ninties are a little slow.


Guess I should buy a computer

[Underclocked]

49. It was 78 rpm, too and not to, and no one knows how the world was build (built).
Does it actually matter?
Wisdom is my telling you that fire on the stove will burn your hand, smart is you believing me and not having to try it for yourself.
Same holds true for a lot of experiences in life, does it not? Now, how smart are we? /forum/wink.gif

[Nathan G.]

Age: 1E (hex) or 11110 (Binary)
First PC: Abekus, (you know the beaded device)
Quotes:
1) "experience is the name eveyone gives their mistakes"-Oscar Wilde
2)"Experience is what enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again"-Earl Wilson
3)"When a person with money meets a person with experience,the person with the experience winds up with the money and the person with the money wind up with experience."-Harvey Mackay

[simon]

Forgot my Quotes:

"The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see"

"The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right, sometimes"

Sir Winston Churchill.

[Blacksnake]

I'll be a multiple of 7 on 9/22. I started with data processing in `75, typing punch cards. "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom".

[jeana]

28 plus a bit more.

"I have studied my mistakes very carefully and am now sure that I can replicate them almost perfectly"

Alas, I forget who said that. Any good quote finding sites out there?

[bringspeed]

this thread is good. now for my insane posting for the day, as a good net-scout. =)

Invitation

if you are a dreamer, come in,
if you are a dreamer, a wisher, a liar,
A hope-er, a pray-er, a magic bean buyer...
If you're a pretender, come sit by my fire
For we have some flax-golden tales to spin.
Come in!
Come in!

It's Dark in Here

I am writing these poems
From inside a lion,
And it's rather dark in here.
So please excuse the handwriting
Which may not be too clear.
But this afternoon by the lions cage
I'm afraid i got too near.
And i'm writing these lines
From inside a lion,
And it's rather dark in here.

=) all by that incomparable poet and artist, Shel Silverstein.

[baffled]

46 here and only had a computer a little over a year.I have no background at all compared to you guys, in computers, but I love them

[brandon184]

I guess Im the youngest one in the entire forum.. Im 13, and I'll be 14 in April. I started using a IBM 386 when I was only about 6 or 7. Right now I have a Pentium 133/48MB RAM/1.01Gig hard drive. Which I have nearly taken completely apart and put back together again.

Watch This... All the adults will start to avoid me.. :-)

[fishboy]

Brief and to the point. 27. Married. Fishtanks and computers for many years now.

[Estrick]

When I started programming, there was nothing but 0's. 1's hadn't even been though of yet!! 60

[Estrick]

When I started programming, there was nothing but 0's. 1's hadn't even been thought of yet!! 60

[kgb]

I'm 39 and I"m glad i have read the above. I really felt like an old dog asking those silly question about ms word and system. I"v been working on computers as a technician, mainly helpdesk, for the past 3 yrs..boy did i learn alot. Before that i was just a user in the basement of my house trying to make a living as a graphic designer using pc. I failed that one when coreldraw requested more and more ram, and new performant hardware. And before that I was a shipper for 5 years in a retail store until it folded. Thank you to all the young people and the older one who guided me here and there.
George.

[papalion]

28
But what's that in computer years anyway?

[jadinolf]

65.
And no, I am not a grey haired, wrinkled up old man.
Hair is still brown and the wrinkles are few.

Probably because I don't worry very much.

[Nathan]

I'm 43. My first experience with computers was in high school when we were programing in Fortran, Cobol, and Neat3 (I think that's how you spell it)

As to wisdom and knowledge, when you truly in your heart know that the more you learn the more you don't know, that's when you are on the right path.

[FlameOut]

Wow, lot's of young'ins here. I'm 44 now (at least I'm not the oldest here /forum/smile.gif

I've been very interested in computers since the early '80's when I bought my first 4k machine at Radio Shack. Went online with Quantum Link (Q-Link) not far after that when I got my C=64 with it's blazing fast 300 baud modem. Moved on to BIX in the late 80's thru early 90's and finaly graduated to the internet in late 94

[SoopaStar]

i think i replied to this..but with 79 responses..honesly..i just scrolled to the bottom to post my new (?) response

23..i will be 24 of december 2nd..as will my identical twin brother (who is not a computer nerd like i am...its his 2ndary hobby...his hoby is car audio...which is my 2ndary.

Paul C

SS

[codybear]

When we were kids we didn't have
Television
Xerox
VCR's
Tape Decks
We survived without...........
Penicillin -
Polio Shots
the Pill'
They hadn't even invented.........
Air Conditioners
Frozen Foods
Frisbees
Dishwashers
Drip Dry Clothes
Panty Hose
We didn't have........
Nuclear Power
Artificial Hearts
Jet Planes
Credit Cards
The Internet,
Imagine life without.............
Pizzas
McDonalds
Instant Coffee
ATM's
Guys with Earrings
Back then..................
Grass was mowed
Coke was a cold drink
Pot was something to cook in
Hardware was hardware
Software wasn't even a word

not quite 'that' old but.........

[Joel Kleppinger]

No Frisbees? now that hurts...

[Underclocked]

brandon184, what adults? /forum/wink.gif

[alondra]

codybear, I can relate to that,
I wake up, read the obits, if my name isn't there I get up. started with Comodore, gave a guy $200. for his PC, he needed money to leave town, 54meg HD 51/4 floppy, win 3.1 slightly faster than the commadore. been sinking money into it ever since.oh I was born in 1923.

[beavis]

45. My harley roaring like a lion and my computer purring like a kitten, both let me explore the unknown world in different ways.