Hunting season has started

[mireland]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/21/wisconsin.shootings/index.html



:rolleyes:

[herosrest]

l just really don't get this.:(

[j.m@talk]

Ohh deer :rolleyes: so much for the gun control thread :-@

[mireland]

Originally posted by j.m@talk
Ohh deer :rolleyes: so much for the gun control thread :-@


sad really....:(

[Cyan]

Blame THAT on Video games!

[DozerLYP]

well instead of going hunting for the next 25 years or so. he's going to be Bubba's pray...:D

[krazefinn]

Yeah, and now is the killing season.
I mean deer killing drivers, happens an awful lot as they move around and get chased by hunters. In last 5 years deaths of drivers from striking deer more than doubled.

[ukulele]

They weren't very good hunters anyway if five of them got killed and they never got the killer. They must of all been trained by John Kerry, the great white hunter.

[Dennis Bacon]

They weren't very good hunters anyway if five of them got killed and they never got the killer. They must of all been trained by John Kerry, the great white hunter.

wow you're a funny guy... :mad:

[mireland]

Originally posted by ukulele
They weren't very good hunters anyway if five of them got killed and they never got the killer. They must of all been trained by John Kerry, the great white hunter.


ok, the elections over..move along...:rolleyes:

[ukulele]

:-@

[mireland]

Originally posted by mireland
ok, the elections over..move along...:rolleyes:


well, being the hypocrite I am, i've just made several vial comments about bush..so disregard my previous comment...:D

[ukulele]

You have to look at the bright side some times. There's a deer party somewhere near there tonight. ;)

And who says guns don't have karma.

[j.m@talk]

Who butchers the stuff tho ?

Ride up to Wal Mart wiv Bambi on ya hood ........... Umm dont fink so :p

[bonz_dragon]

Sorry guys but I see absoutely nothing funny about this at all!
I live here in Wisconsin and this is tragic.
None of the now 6 dead were armed with guns when this crazy went after them.
The second person shot was the daughter of the property owner who was the 1st victum. She was show while going to assist her father who was on the ground bleeding to death.
In all toll. 8 people were shot and 6 are now dead.
The perp was also tresspassong on private property! He also admitted he would have shot 2 more except that he ran out of bullets. I guess 20 rounds just isn't enough when you are out hunting dear!

[ukulele]

Yes it is tragic and no, it's not funny, but if I spent my days wringing my handkerchief out every time I read a news paper or watched tragedy TV that is all I would hever have time for. I suspect there is more to this story then anyone even has a clue about at this point. According to the article those killed were long time hunters. I have hunted for food on occasion and have a clear conscience on that matter, but people who go out and buy all the latest gear, secure a private estate, climb up in a tree and block trail and then kill the animals without so much as breaking a sweat are not hunters, but wrather just animal killers. Nobody deservers to die that way, and yes it was a tragic news story, but I believe in karma.

[bonz_dragon]

I have lived here most of my life and I understand hunting accidents, though sad most are the result of carellessness or stupidity.
But this was no accident. After shooting the 1st and 2nd victums he actually chased the others through the woods.
Again, why would anyone need a weapon with 20+ rounds of ammo to go deer hunting?
KARMA! I think not. Premeditated sure!

[ukulele]

Some people think of karma as some mystical god like force which rules their destiny. I don't. I see it as destiny dictated by the environment and circumstances we find ourselves in. Certainly society cannot exhonerate or lesson the severity of the crime, but we can avoid confrontation, even with an armed killer if a motive does not exist. I'll give you a good example. Not far from here is an ashram. The owners of the property leave it open to the public but no hunting is allowed. A hunter, if found on the property would be asked to leave. Consider the hunter's state of thought should he then find hunters platforms in the trees. Now he has motive. Fortunately most hunters only hunt for the thrill of killing animals not people, but very few hunters I have ever met actually hunt for food anymore. They just like to kill animals because they can and they spent a ton of money on gear to show thier peers so they feel compelled to use it, preferrable the easy way, blocking trail on a private reserve, shooting a deer. When I see people like Kerry spouting off the public what a sportman like hunter he is, I see a man who has no values other then his vanity. No person with an SUV and and a rack full of assault rifles should be allowed to hunt. They are less noble then a root digging pig.

[bonz_dragon]

1st let's start by what I know of the situation here in Wisconsin.
The DNR has released these statements so far for this year.
1. the deer heards in the state are at record numbers to the point of in some areas the heards are on the verge of over population. Which also puts them in danger of contracting Cronic Wasting Deases and doing untold damage to farm crops along with becoming a danger to traffic. Inthe past 10 days there have been 3 incidents on deer making their way into public Buildings.
One made it's way through the automatic doors of a dept. store and became trapped.
2. This is already one of the deadliest hunting seasons on record. Aside from what happened the other day!
Here in Wisconsin we have basically 3 deer seasons. 1st a bow and shotgun season. Then starting the Sat. before Thanksgiving to the Sunday after is the Gun (rifle) season. Afterwards is bow season again.
Last year there were 19 fatalities for the whole season, which includes those who suffered heart attacks while in the field or fell out of their trees! This yr before the beginning of gun season there have already been 29 deaths. Again not counting the 6 murders.

I do not hunt. I don't care for wild game meat. But many here do and believe it that the meat does not go to waste. I do not want to stop the hunt or take way anyones legal guns. I just do not partake of the sport. But I do enjoy fishing and wouldn't want anyone restricting my enjoyment of that sport.

[bonz_dragon]

Originally posted by ukulele
Some people think of karma as some mystical god like force which rules their destiny. I don't. I see it as destiny dictated by the environment and circumstances we find ourselves in. Certainly society cannot exhonerate or lesson the severity of the crime, but we can avoid confrontation, even with an armed killer if a motive does not exist. I see karma more as how we preceive ourselves and the surroundings we are in and how we preceive others see us.

I also disagree that I as an individual can not control or alter the actions of an irrationally thinking person. And if that person has a weapon then they are in complete control and I am at their mercy wether they have a motive or not!
As in this case I see no motive and this was an irrational act.

[werz]

I dont know about karma or irrationality, but the guy definately got out of bed on the wrong side.

[ukulele]

Originally posted by bonz_dragon
I see karma more as how we preceive ourselves and the surroundings we are in and how we preceive others see us.

I also disagree that I as an individual can not control or alter the actions of an irrationally thinking person. And if that person has a weapon then they are in complete control and I am at their mercy wether they have a motive or not!
As in this case I see no motive and this was an irrational act.

It's more plausable now that the guy made a statement. Like I said, there is more to it then just another nut with a gun.