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PacNW CE
09-24-2004, 07:21 PM
Ok, here is the latest.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/09/24/news_6108100.html
Seems as if VU is in the business of squeezing the developer and has no real interest in we gamers. So here is what we are going to do about it.
We are going to bombard VU at the following address:
TSVU@vugames.com
http://www.vugames.com/contact.do
Try not to use potty language, but just genuinely express your desire to see HL2 released before the new year.
Thats silly, and it'll never work.
The better way is to buy HL2 through Steam to show your lack of appreciation for VU.
Bigjakkstaffa
09-25-2004, 11:43 AM
Vivendi Universal will do anything to secure a Holiday release date, annoyin a few customers isnt going to concern them, as regardless of what they do theyre still gonna shift millions of units.
It's this sort of attitude that has lead to VU/Sierra's financial ruin several times in the last 5 or 6 Years
--Jakk:t
MJCfromCT
09-25-2004, 11:48 AM
looks like a november 1st release will be more like a december 10th... :(
Originally posted by MJCfromCT
looks like a november 1st release will be more like a december 10th... :(
It's better than an '05 release.
CrazyCrusher
09-26-2004, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Cyan
It's better than an '05 release.
you believe that its going to be out on that posted date, I have part of the moon im looking to sell you wana buy it. If its comes out on that date ill eat my words, but I doubt I will.
PacNW CE
09-27-2004, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Cyan
Thats silly, and it'll never work.
The better way is to buy HL2 through Steam to show your lack of appreciation for VU.
If my intention was to have the game qc'ed and released asap, sure it is silly and won't work.
My intentions are to let VU know I'm (bad word) and that I have zero intentions of purchasing HL2 in any other format than Steam.
It won't work is a terrible reason not to try something in most cases.:t
widget2003
09-28-2004, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by MJCfromCT
looks like a november 1st release will be more like a december 10th... :(
thats pathetic it was this time last year they were saying that we can all get it for X-mas of '03 and i highly doubt we'll even get it for x-mas '04. lol i bet the people that bought the ATI 9600 & 9800 XT's with their free HL2 game are getting fairly annoyed and probably lost their voucher thingy anyways:D
MJCfromCT
09-28-2004, 01:53 PM
and probably by now those cards which would have ran the game just fine will have a bit of trouble getting decent performance.
CrazyCrusher
09-28-2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by MJCfromCT
and probably by now those cards which would have ran the game just fine will have a bit of trouble getting decent performance.
yep you got that right, but what can they do now, they get ***** and theres nothing they can do about it, id blame big mouth Newl for that. a lier of liers is what he is.
fizur2002
09-28-2004, 09:23 PM
are they really trying to **** off the gamers? cuz i know everyone as well as i am getting tired of all these delayed release dates. I figured that they would have released it when D3 came out. But VU is stupid and hopefully they will learn from their ways. This game had better be f'ing sweet or im not going to be a happy camper.
Magua
09-28-2004, 09:30 PM
Yep. Valve has a secret agenda to tick everyone off so bad they never do business with them. Its their reverse psychology business model :rolleyes:
Rabbitrunner51
09-29-2004, 09:01 AM
From what i just read on your link PacNW...The court proceedings could take place anywhere from Oct.4 till christmastime...and then even after it might taake a while longer to get it released for retail....
This makes it now coming out around the first part of next year..cionceivably....
This whole issue with the two parties involved just sounds pretty disgusting to me.....
I'd like to take all the legal eagle lawyers and whomever else is involved with this and string them up by the neck....
You would think that a persons or companies reputation would be worth far more in the light of the people ..which certainly includes the gamers especially to just act more grown up and come to an agreement....
Comeon gentlemen..its is still only a game....and if this game is going to make or break VU ..then what does that say about their company... I thought they just published a communicato about the fact that they have other great games and it would not be such a letdown for them??
Because its only just a game...this whole affair does not affect my desire or buying frenzies more or less or my decisions to buy other game maker games and be jsut as happy....
As far as I care...they both can just cut each others throats and bleed till the sun never shines again...; I will be playing something else and never give it a thought......
In any case i guess Valve won't be getting any game of the year awards for this year....:eek: :eek: ;)
CrazyCrusher
09-29-2004, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Magua
Yep. Valve has a secret agenda to tick everyone off so bad they never do business with them. Its their reverse psychology business model :rolleyes:
That wouldn’t surprise me even if you where serious, what I would call it is bad Business lack of consideration for the consumer, and I don’t give a ***** attitude that the Valve company has. Valve in my book are Junk when it comes to proper business practice and looking out for the consumer, if that where not true they would not have the reputation that they have now with the gaming community. Yes they make great games, but they have a lot to learn when it comes to making the “customer” happy.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
CrazyCrusher
09-29-2004, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by PacNW CE
If my intention was to have the game qc'ed and released asap, sure it is silly and won't work.
.:t
I don’t think its silly in the least.
for a company to know if what they do effects the customer, they need to know from the customer. if know-one says anything or lets it pass it gets worse just like the cost of medical in the US :) didn’t they think that Guy creating a web-site to boycott one a particular ATI card that was not correctly labeled? And what happened after only 3 weeks of the site going up? Oh ye, all the cards where recalled and they either got them replaced or there money back. Yes a different situation but still it worked because the customer said something instead of sitting on hi (you know what) and saying nothing.
porsch1909
09-29-2004, 09:47 AM
the solution is this. dont buy HL2, this will make the game and initial flop and hopefull the annoying companies will go out of business. then when all of them are out of business all u need to do is buy the game. in addition no other game company will try stringing a release to long and cancel so many release dates.
or......
get sombody on the inside to snatch and game and post it over the internet.....but that would be illegal so i would say the first idea is better. :D
fizur2002
09-29-2004, 04:14 PM
what about the locked copies you get with steam? what is up with those? Think there is any way to unlock them?
MJCfromCT
09-29-2004, 04:25 PM
nope :)
Originally posted by fizur2002
what about the locked copies you get with steam? what is up with those? Think there is any way to unlock them?
Seems like anyone with half a brain wouldn't let you download all the content so that you can play it, like keeping the main portion of the code out of reach...
that said...
There's probably a way to unlock it. :p
fizur2002
09-29-2004, 05:12 PM
more than likely, just have to find someone who has the ability to do so.
Magua
09-29-2004, 07:04 PM
Think there is any way to unlock them?
Probably not.
I think there are critical parts missing.
MJCfromCT
09-29-2004, 07:45 PM
Most of the stuff thats' downloaded so far has been sounds, textures, I guess if you can unlock it you can watch a nice slideshow :)
MJCfromCT
09-29-2004, 09:49 PM
What Valve is doing is quite smart on their part...they are getting ready to put HL2 out on steam to order before VU is ready w/the retail copy...hopefully swinging many people to buy HL2 through steam and not retail....they are forcing VU to hurry up.
Rabbitrunner51
09-29-2004, 10:24 PM
That will not happen..if you read the full legal disclosures....
Keep wishing my dear friends... if they released it on steam it would then again just open up another new can of worms for both sides and Valve would in all likely be the loser in all this....
VU also needs to quite playing its game of contract binding ties and release dates and get together and come to a mutual agreement ..so the customer can be satisfied....
Of course, in todays world of dirty politics.legal eagles and pawning, they will insist on gettting what each one wants...then and only then will we the gamers who pay and support their free interprise....devy up and cave in to those same ideals we all hold so dear.... The American system of Justice...
Justice in this case means that all three partieds are getting royally shafted up their behinds...;)
MJCfromCT
09-29-2004, 10:54 PM
Well they will be releasing CS:Source next week, and in order to get it you'll have to purchase a HL2 package via steam...so unless VU gets the retail version out at the same time, i'll be buying thru steam.
Rabbitrunner51
09-29-2004, 11:09 PM
Thats great..now everybodies hostage.....
The thing is ..not everybody out there wants to play this thing online..... and i believe there are just as many gamers who just want to play HL2 on its its own merit...and may not want CS:Source....
Personally I think the whole business about all of this is a strung out mess.....
I like freedom of choice..not someone shoving something down my throat...;)
MJCfromCT
09-29-2004, 11:22 PM
I agree with you there, but when I think about Vivendi possibly holding the retail game for 6 more months, I say to myself "F the french, support ValvE" :)
CrazyCrusher
09-29-2004, 11:29 PM
Agreed, one more thing that some people are not aware of is that not everyone has a super high speed connection; can you just fathom downloading a near 3.2 GB file on a 56K dialup? its not fair on the ones who cannot afford that type of connection.
fizur2002
09-30-2004, 03:02 AM
that would take a week to DL on a modem, dear god forbid the day i resort to something like that.
MJCfromCT
09-30-2004, 07:23 AM
A good thing about steam is that you can copy the .gcf files in your "steamapps" directory to a dvd-r or something and put them on someone else's computer...that way if you have a slow connection but your friend does not, all hope is not lost.
misjudgedinall
09-30-2004, 08:58 AM
Truth be told
Where there is a will there is a way. Make sure that we don't just hit this from one angle though. We should start petitions not to buy the game if it isn't released in a timely fashion. Or not to buy it unless from Steam. How about we not only Email but write letters! And putting up a website could help to.... but that seems like **** unless you can get alot of hits. But seriously I think we should do something cuz I've done stuff like that before and it works! But I have never tried to do it to a videogame company. (I'm sure it'd work though) You'd be suprised the sort of stuff I've made happen, just make enough NOISE.
porsch1909
09-30-2004, 11:08 AM
what stuff have you made happen??
Radi0h3ad
09-30-2004, 11:12 AM
The HL2 farce has unfortunately rendered my interest in the game to a minimum. After all the hype, all the false release dates, the rumours, the dodgy copies being pirated and sold in Russia bla bla, I've just reached a point now where I can't be bothered. If I see it on a shelf sometime in the future, I'll believe it's out and available, and I'll check out it's quality before making a purchase. It's just too much hype.
PacNW CE
09-30-2004, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by misjudgedinall
Truth be told
Where there is a will there is a way. Make sure that we don't just hit this from one angle though. We should start petitions not to buy the game if it isn't released in a timely fashion. Or not to buy it unless from Steam. How about we not only Email but write letters! And putting up a website could help to.... but that seems like **** unless you can get alot of hits. But seriously I think we should do something cuz I've done stuff like that before and it works! But I have never tried to do it to a videogame company. (I'm sure it'd work though) You'd be suprised the sort of stuff I've made happen, just make enough NOISE.
Make it happen for the love of Gordon!:t
I am starting to feel like Radi0h3ad. Screw both of them, I'm not getting the game.
Another developer with a AAA game could really make a killing if they released their game now while the taste of blood is in the water.
Wouldn't it be Ironic if Duke Nukem snuck up on us right now?
fizur2002
09-30-2004, 12:36 PM
That would be awesome, would definatly tee off valve and VU.
Rabbitrunner51
10-01-2004, 04:26 AM
I just read in a PCgamer mag. forum that HL2 got all the awards at the E3 conference this year....
WHAAAAAAAAAAAATTTT? How can this be when the stupid game hasn't even been given to the real game playing public for its proper reviews..??
Does this world of ours have to be somewhat corrupted even in the gaming community ?
Thats like giving the MVP trophy to a team..before the season is half over.....
I'm getting sick all over again......
My vote goes to Doom 3 as it clearly came out when it was supposed to and did not mislead the public in any way......
PacNW CE
10-01-2004, 06:32 PM
Now I am reading rumors on Anand that 11-23-04 is the us date.
Holding my breath:rolleyes:
Happy news for some...
Half-Life 2 and Thanksgiving, Game Could be Out on Nov. 23 [Uros "2Lions" Jojic] 7:34 am EDT @ October 01st, 2004
Digital Pimp writes "Vivendi Universal Games is expected to formally announce a November 26th release date for Half-Life 2 in Europe shortly, along with a US release three days earlier, after informing UK retail partners of the date this week.
Valve delivered a release candidate to VU on September 15th, and although an official 'Gold' announcement has still yet to emerge, retail sources in the UK indicate that they have now been given notice of the expected late November date.
It was previously feared that the game might slip into 2005, as recent news of legal wranglings between VU and developer Valve made talk of further delays look increasingly likely, although the company could ill afford to miss out on the lucrative Christmas opportunity for such an important game.
With marketing plans taking months of preparation and Christmas space at a premium, it was essential VU made retail aware of its plans - even though official confirmation may be still pending.
When contacted for confirmation, Valve's Doug Lombardi was still unable to shed further light on the matter, uttering the now-familar words: "Unfortunately, I do not have a release date from VUG right now," no doubt under orders to wait until it's 'officially' announced.
On a related matter, despite the appearance of print reviews of the game next week, online readers are being forced to wait until the day of release before they can read review coverage of the game. Last night, Lombardi confirmed: "The online reviews will be held until the day the game is made available," with review code being held back until then."
As it's stated at the start of the post, I got this news sent to us a couple of minutes ago by our reader, Digital Pimp. I don't know where he got it from though, but it seems genuine enough. Still, until we actually see the official gold announcement, it would probably be best to take all news related to the release of Half-Life 2 with a grain of salt. As if you needed me to tell you that.
Thanks to Eurogamer for the news.
http://www.actiontrip.com/
MJCfromCT
10-01-2004, 07:15 PM
Still no confirmation from Valve or VU, I won't hold my breath.
CrazyCrusher
10-01-2004, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by MJCfromCT
Still no confirmation from Valve or VU, I won't hold my breath.
the way it stands right now even if Valve or VU gave a date id find it hard to beleave them to :)
Bigjakkstaffa
10-02-2004, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Rabbitrunner51
I just read in a PCgamer mag. forum that HL2 got all the awards at the E3 conference this year....
WHAAAAAAAAAAAATTTT? How can this be when the stupid game hasn't even been given to the real game playing public for its proper reviews..??
Because E3 is a preview event, hence most of the games that appear at E3 are some months away from public release
--Jakk:t
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