ATi owners playing Doom 3 see this:

[Bigjakkstaffa]

At the risk of double posting, i felt this would be a good way of bringing all possible attention to the issue:

http://www.sysopt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=167369

--Jakk:t

[stalkersoftware]

Is it true that DoomIII would look and run better on an Xbox?
:confused:

That cant be true cause the Xbox is powerd by an geforce3 something equal to that.

:confused:

[Dennis Bacon]

I am playing doom3 on a 9800 pro and having no problems what so ever, the game runs smooth as butter and looks so awesome on 1024x768 / high quality...

[RamonGTP]

Originally posted by stalkersoftware
Is it true that DoomIII would look and run better on an Xbox?
:confused:

That cant be true cause the Xbox is powerd by an geforce3 something equal to that.

:confused:

Where did you hear that? Rest assured, D3 will DEFINALTY NOT look better on XBOX than it does on the PC.

Dennis Bacon, I too am using a 9800P at high settings with no problems. I actually did end up noticeing some SLIGHT artifacting when I had my card at 421/380 after a few hours of play. It was very intermitant, just something would pop up, like a verticle line through the screen for a split second every once 20 minuts or so.. I'm now running it at 417/378 and all is good. Also running 2xAA (ingame)/4xAF (display properties) and rarly drop below 30fps. I'm really looking forward to the new Catalyst drivers that are suppose to improve OpenGL performance. Currently running the 4.7s.

[CrazyCrusher]

Has anyone installed the 4.9 drivers yet? I know you did jakks, but did anyone else? I want to but then i dont want to. if I take the chance installing these drivers do you recomend removing the Omega drivers I have in it now before installing the ATI drivers?

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Installing over the top should be fine, Terry M has basically said that these are WHQL ready drivers that are being released 6 weeks early in Beta form to please the community.

Of the many people who have commented on these drivers, ive only read of two people who have had problems as a result.

Performance wise the improvment comes for X800 users, Sireric has stated that the R420 can gain from 5-30% performance with these R3xx users will probably see little to no difference FPS wise, though some are reporting up to 5FPS. That said, while the FPS' may not have gone up for R3xx users a lot of the stuttering caused by data caching has apparently been cut down by these drivers as has the white dot issue. Apparently across Open GL as a whole though, performance is up for all users with this set an indication that on more midrange systems is extremely demanding on not only the vide card, but the system as a whole.

Sireric has stated that these drivers should be regarded as a signal of intent from ATi and that similar improvments in OGL will be forthcoming in future driver sets for both the X800 and the R3xx.

It'll be interesting to see if the WHQL'ed 4.8's are dated newer than these beta's though.

--Jakk:t

[zybch]

Originally posted by CrazyCrusher
Has anyone installed the 4.9 drivers yet? I know you did jakks, but did anyone else? I want to but then i dont want to. if I take the chance installing these drivers do you recomend removing the Omega drivers I have in it now before installing the ATI drivers?

The 4.7 drivers got me around 46.5, while the new 4.9 beta ones get me 52.
Not a bad improvement for a couple of minutes worth of downloading :)

[Someone Stupid]

RamonGTP: I'm running 400/380 (had to drop it 50 MHz else the game would freeze) on my 9800 Pro at 4x/8x at 1024x768 at high details. My low is 30-35ish and I'll still be riding at 60 FPS or so for most areas. Just when a few creatures come on the screen it really drops and IIRC don't we have similar systems? A 2500, a gig or more of ram and a 9800 Pro? Odd to see such a large difference in FPS with settings like that. Then again, the game isn't ATi friendly.

[RamonGTP]

Yep, our systems are pretty similar. There really isn't much difference between our FPS though. You said your low is about 30-35, and I hardly ever drop below 30, thats not to say im at 30fps the entire time, those are my low points as well. If im just walking down a hallway without much going on, i'm right up there at the 60fps cap.

My exact specs are:
2600+@2.3 (210x11)
NF7-S
2x512 @ 210MHz @ 2-2-2-11
9800Pro at the speeds i posted above

A buddy of mine just got the game and his specs are pretty similar to mine. He had his cpu clocked at 2.4GHz, but after a few minutes of playing, it would crash. (prior to running this game, it was stable even running farcry) I went into the bios and took it down to 2.3GHz (200x11.5) and it worked nicely. His 9800Pro doesn't overclock nearly as well as mine does so we left it at stock speeds. The game ran nicely at high settings, I didn't bother turningon AA/AF on his rig though.

[bblqj78]

Cool Ramon....
I will be getting the game next week (i live un the UK....duh) and was thinking about upgrading my video card. But with EXACTLY the same spec as yours...and the same overclocks...maybe I wont have to just for this game!

I take it you think that ur system is just fine for this game?:t

[Someone Stupid]

I actually have a bit of headroom (at least I think, need more than ten minutes to test it) as I can run at 1152x864 with the same settings as before, any higher and I'm at 380 and below.

As for AA, AF - when troubleshooting (for quite awhile) I was running at 355/380 and I was at 12x7 with 2xAA at High quality (8xAF) pushing 60 constantly with 30 being my low. A little more erractic, but at stock with the mem overclocked it ran fine at those settings. Ran it like that for a couple hours before I finally decided to bump it up to 4x as I was worried it'd crash. Pushing it more and it did, so I went back down. :) So you should be able to enable it on your friend's system.

Though I'm still having to drop 50 MHz to get the game to run, and having to drop farther for better IQ/res only seems to prove my chip is FUBAR'ed from it's little toasting a long while back - and it's now diminishing returns if I have to drop anymore. Still works well though, just now I need to play with core settings before and after playing. FarCry hadn't brought any problems in the core out, but Doom 3 has somehow - also found a weak overclock on your bid's computer it seems. I don't think it is the usual overclockers problem that is reported as I have to run well below (340) to hit 12x10 res at 4x/8xAF and have it stable (but rather slow) not to mention I'm running at 400/380 right now.

This game looks absolutely gorgeous and puts FarCry to shame and I can't even get my settings near what I can in FarCry (just for an image shot), Doom 3 runs much better as well. Must say I'm VERY impressed with the engine. That is how a game should be done.

Okay, got the post in the right thread now. :)

EDIT for bbq: You'll be running the game just fine. No need at all to upgrade.

[bblqj78]

This game looks absolutely gorgeous and puts FarCry to shame and I can't even get my settings near what I can in FarCry (just for an image shot), Doom 3 runs much better as well. Must say I'm VERY impressed with the engine. That is how a game should be done.

WOW...I cant wait!

You'll be running the game just fine. No need at all to upgrade

Thanks man...u probably just saved me a couple of hundred ££'s

:t

[RamonGTP]

bblqj78, yes the game runs perfect on my setup. As stated, 30 is about the low for similar configurations to this which is not bad for a low. I too was thinking about upgrading, but am VERY glad I didn't. I now know my setup will most likely last until the NEXT gen of cards :D at which time I won't hesitate upgrading because i'll know I got my money's worth out of the 9800Pro. While i'm at it i'll pick up a nice A64 and mobo to go along with it ;)

SS, my bud's 9800Pro gets a bad attitude when we overclock it. He can bearly get it to 9800XT speeds without artifacting in farcry. On hotter days, he can't even get it to XT speeds for more than a few minutes. Seeing that D3 is even MORE stressfull, we decided to just leave it at stock speeds. I will enable some low AA/AF and see if his performance is adequate enough though. One thing I did notice is that using "performance" for AF results in no distinguishable difference from "quality" but has much less of a performance hit.

[Someone Stupid]

I'll have to try that. I was able to push it up and keep it at the higher resolution, though toying with anything will lock it up. Ultra settings is the only other option. ATi doesn't run 8x and 16x AA but 6x max without temporal. I don't see why it detects the card yet doesn't offer ATi's AA settings but only nvidias - not to mention it doesn't like ATi overclocks from what I've read due to how it detects ATi's cards. Though I KNOW 6xAA is WAY out the question. I'd probably be down to a 350 core speed. :)

I second that Ramon, after seeing HL2 get pushed back and Carmack not really talking much about D3 for quite awhile I was starting to worry especially as the new cards were on the horizon and now are here. Reviews painted a bleak picture, but they are just advertising in disguise at most places.

[Someone Stupid]

This is really odd. I can run at my previous overclocked speeds. I just played a bit of FarCry to see if my overclock would hold up still (never know since the HS has fallen of the GPU once before). It did, so I decided to try it in Doom 3 and it works. 451/378, Now running 12x10 with 2xAA/8xAF, high settings, performance (though looks the same as quality, thanks for the tip Ramon), with config tweak.

This game has really been a headache to get going, but it's been great since and now that I won't have to play the declock/reclock game, it's gotten better. Many of the games I've bought over the years were Q3 based, so it looks like I'll be keeping my 9800 Pro for awhile long as the D9 side runs about as well for the most part. Doom 3 actually has saved me several hundred dollars. :)

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Originally posted by Someone Stupid
.
This game has really been a headache to get going, but it's been great since and now that I won't have to play the declock/reclock game

If such an issue ever crops up again that is specific to one, or a few apps, you can use radlinker to create a custom shortcut with custom clock speeds, saving you the trouble of adjusting the clock every time you play.

Also, anyone interested in the 4.9 Open GL driver specifically for Doom III but not wanting to install the drivers pack as a whole, unpacking the oglxx.dll from the install files and popping it in the Doom III root directory should make Doom III use that driver while everythign else will use the other system driver(s)

--Jakk:t

[cbh]

Originally posted by stalkersoftware
Is it true that DoomIII would look and run better on an Xbox?
:confused:

That cant be true cause the Xbox is powerd by an geforce3 something equal to that.

:confused:

After my friend had watched the video on GameSpot, he told me that he would never buy Doom 3 for Xbox and rather wait for Halo 2 instead. :eek: