Some holes in IE security may be fundamental to all browsers?

[Bigjakkstaffa]

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1623248,00.asp

--Jakk:t

[fishybawb]

Only because of Windows. That recently reported Mozilla bug didn't affect Linux/Mac users. IE and Windows, what a great security combination :rolleyes:

[kwebb]

Only because of Windows. That recently reported Mozilla bug didn't affect Linux/Mac users. IE and Windows, what a great security combination

Isn't that mindless mantra growing tiresome? Develop an original thought or at least provide some facts to go along with your rhetoric.

[fishybawb]

I don't want this to turn into one of those mud-slinging threads, but how many critical flaws have been found in Windows? I won't even mention IE, you should know all about that unless you've been living under a rock.

[cdroman]

There are over ten million lines of code in XP; that translates into one large amount of possible flaws for the nefarious to find doesn't it.
But then nothing works as well with as many different hardware/software combinations as windows either.

[stix_kua]

Originally posted by cdroman
There are over ten million lines of code in XP; that translates into one large amount of possible flaws for the nefarious to find doesn't it.
But then nothing works as well with as many different hardware/software combinations as windows either.

There are also ten million+ lines of source code in Linux with free access to the source code however, Linux doe snot have all of these security flaws...

You see my point.;)

Apple seems to have no hardware compatibility issues. As a matter of fact, Mac hardware config is more often than not simpler than Windows.

[CompGeek01]

Lets not be ignorant. If you truly knew what you were talking about and wanted a 99.9% secure system, you'd be using OpenBSD already. :p

But really....both OS's have their problems, can't we end it there?

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Originally posted by stix_kua
Apple seems to have no hardware compatibility issues. As a matter of fact, Mac hardware config is more often than not simpler than Windows.

Because they use (more or less) standardised hardware. PC's dont (there was an attempt at it back in the days of the 486, but it didnt stand up), as such of course Mac OS is going to have less compatibility issues as it knows exactly what hardware its "going to get" in advance, wheras PC's can have just about anything from anyone chucked into them and Windows is expected to detect them flawlessly every-time, something it simply isnt going to be able to do 100% of the time given the vast range of hardware out there.

--Jakk:t

[MJCfromCT]

you all have to agree that if mozilla or linux were used by 90% of everyone, then there would be plenty more security flaws turning up...just because they haven't been found doesn't mean they aren't out there...why would a hacker want to spend time trying to figure out how to exploit 10% of the world's computers, when they could focus their time on the clear majority?

[fishybawb]

But Unix/Linux machines make up a large proportion of Internet servers, and have done for ages.

[MJCfromCT]

i agree, but the majority of end users use windows...

[Cyan]

Originally posted by fishybawb
But Unix/Linux machines make up a large proportion of Internet servers, and have done for ages.

You also hear about servers being hacked all the time, take mircx for example.

[Bigjakkstaffa]

Originally posted by MJCfromCT
i agree, but the majority of end users use windows...

But most hackers dont bother with home/leisure/workstation machines, as theres nothing of any real value to be found on them, wheras servers and the like can be real pots of gold.

Indeed, even if you do get hacked on your home machine chances are it will only be some "freedom of information" junkie intent on having a snoop around, rather than someone hell-bent on causing your machine to melt down. Afterall, bragging rights wise, which is more impressive, taking down NASA, or taking down fred Jones' work processing machine ?

Thus, while there is a threat to "end user" machines, it tends to be one which has been massively overblown and publicised by the media etc.

--Jakk:t

[cdroman]

Originally posted by stix_kua
There are also ten million+ lines of source code in Linux with free access to the source code however, Linux doe snot have all of these security flaws...

You see my point.;)


I don't see your point. I've clipped a couple of quotes from this page http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/19514.html for you to read. It doesn't back what you say.


"Microsoft's flaw rate is actually much less than others, but because they are such a big company, they seem to have a lot of arrows shot at them," Aberdeen Group security analyst Jim Hurley told the E-Commerce Times.

"The bug list for Linux is going through the roof out there. I don't know what's happening right now," Hurley said. "It may be that a lot of the hackers have decided to go after Linux.