athlon 64 939

[the xenon]

when do you people predict athlon 64 939 3500 + price will start going down?

[Someone Stupid]

Not anytime soon, let me put it that way. It is VERY hard for both manufacturer's to ramp up speeds right now, so high end chips are staying high end a tad longer and are carrying a nice price with them. I figure 3 months, and even then, it won't be dramatic enough for your wallet to notice. It'll still be empty.

[stix_kua]

Nah...give it a bit till the next wave comes down the tube...

[the xenon]

I want to build an Athlon 64 based system but cant decide what socket to go with.
Ofcourse 939 is better and more of a finished product

but is it worth spending the extra $

i would either go for 3200+ which is around $270 or 3500+ which is like $470
but i am not that excited to pay that extra $200 for something that is not going to give me that much more bang (or is it?)

after all i could spend that extra money on a better video card and get better results maybe... :confused:

what u guys think?

[stix_kua]

Originally posted by the xenon
I want to build an Athlon 64 based system but cant decide what socket to go with.
Ofcourse 939 is better and more of a finished product

but is it worth spending the extra $

i would either go for 3200+ which is around $270 or 3500+ which is like $470
but i am not that excited to pay that extra $200 for something that is not going to give me that much more bang (or is it?)

after all i could spend that extra money on a better video card and get better results maybe... :confused:

what u guys think?

Th only one that has the longest future on the Desktop sector sis 939....940 is soon to be only Opterons (Workstations and Servers)

754 is to become an Athlon XP platform....So the choice is 939...

[the xenon]

but i really dont think i would be stick with the same mobo for like 10 years lol... this is only for the next couple of years so what i am asking is:
is the preformance of 939 and 754 right now with similar clocked cpus similar?
if yes then i dont want to spend extra $$$ on 939

[ChokiDori]

if you build a system based on 754 setup, and then upgraded to a 939 setup, how much would you have to replace. would it just be the processor, ram and motherboard?

[the xenon]

processor and motherboard for sure, memory is not necassary depending on what memory u buy,
but if u think about it its better not to upgrade and just save up to buy 939 if ur planning on it already

[JediOfDarkness]

There's not a huge difference between the 939 and the 754, and if you're happy with the preformance of the socket 754's, then save the money now and go for buying the 754. Mainly because once you're ready to update, AMD could have an entirely new socket type out that you could upgrade too. It's just not that big of an issue if you're not gonna update every time a new CPU comes out. If you're planning on sticking with it for a while, you might opt for a faster 754, like a 3400 or 3700, but you don't have to dish out the extra cash for a 939 unless you want too.

[scottluebke2003]

You will be paying premium for 64bit CPU's right now and they offer very little performance gain over an Athlon XP. Wait another year or two to build that 64bit system and for now build a nice Nforce2 Ultra based system with an XP3000/3200 and throw 1GB of DDR400 in there. You will notice very little difference between that and an A64 socket 939 system

[JediOfDarkness]

That's somewhat true, the Athlon XP 3200 preforms as well as the Athlon 64 3200 in some applications, but for gaming the 64bit AMD's take a large lead over the Athlon XPs. And the Athlon XP 3200 cannot keep up at all with the 3500 or 3700's.

[RamonGTP]

A64 little performance gain over Athlon XP??? I definatly DON'T want whatever it is you're smoking.

[scottluebke2003]

Come on guys, use your heads on this one. the performance is near the same on CPU's that have the same speed rating. It doesn't take a genius to realize an XP3200 is slower than an A64 3700+. You guys kill me sometimes.

If money is a matter, then you can get an Xp3200 and an Nforce2 board for a total that is just over $200. However, the A64 system will cost you almost double that and give you a very small performance gain. It's up to you. Both systems will provide excellent performance.

[Someone Stupid]

The Barton's speed rating is to thunderbird specs, which really started to fall apart at higher speeds. The 2400/2500 were the last processors that matched their intel conterpart (2.4C). The A64's are pretty much a direct comparision against Intel. Look at most any benchmarks and you'll see the A64 3200 decently to way ahead of a 3200 XP.

[RamonGTP]

Exactly, those XP speed ratings where bogus, especially at the barton level. A XP3200+ was about as fast as a 2.6C or 2.8B. Whereas an Athlon64 3200+ is a direct competitor to the 3.2C which KILLS the XP.

[JediOfDarkness]

Yep, exactly. The Athlon XP 3200 can compete with the Athlon XP's and lower end Pentiums, but cannot even compare to the Athlon 64's and newer Pentium 4's. And even if you were to OC a Athlon XP 3200 to 2.4GHz, do you really think it would at all stand on par with the Athlon 64 3700/3800? Not even to the slightest. Clock speed does not matter, as Intel is finally figuring out, it's the internal architecture of the processor, which the Athlon XP's are now lacking in.