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Hisoka
05-29-2004, 02:38 PM
Hi,
Tnx to guideance from Chris i found site with VMOD (generic VMOD , pins 5 & 7 & trimmer, or 10k ohms).
I got:
Club 3D Radeon 9600 pro (Catalist 4.5, omega 2544)
Athlon xp 1.6 (1.4 for real)
ECS K7S5A (SIS 735) mainboard (agp 4x max on board)
512 MB 2700 DDR
Windows XP SP1
I left default settings regarding opengl & 3dmark (texture quality,mipmap quality etc.)

Im running 3Dmark03 build 340 and with 405/303
(almost default) Im getting 3132.
Wings of fury : 91.3 fps
Battle: 20.5
Trolls: 18.8
Mother nature:21.4
cpu1: 27.9
cpu2: 5.2
Fillrate single : 903.3
Fillrate multi: 1589
Vertex : 10.6
Pixel 2.0 : 31.1
RagTroll: 13.5


With 500/303 im getting 3468.
Wings of fury : 92.2 fps
Battle: 22.7
Trolls: 20.6
Mother nature:25.5
cpu1: 27.7
cpu2: 5.2
Fillrate single : 918.5
Fillrate multi: 1916.8
Vertex : 13.0
Pixel 2.0 : 33.1
RagTroll: 14.7

It doesnt have logic that I increase core by 100 (25 %) and get onyl 1 frame in wings of fury? I mean wtf is going on here? Am I doing something wrong? Can you explain only 1 frame increase.

thank you...


edit1: Well I took Morrowind, turned crosshair where no characters and only sea and 400/300 to 500/300 gave me only 3 frames. please help
Is something in Omega or catalist not well setted?

Plaster
05-29-2004, 03:19 PM
Pretty simple. Your CPU doesn't have the power to push the card all the way at default speed. While 3dm03 is heavily VPU dependent, it still requires a CPU that can use the VPU's power.

Plaster
05-29-2004, 03:39 PM
I have a 9600XT which runs at pretty much the same speeds you're overclocking too. The primary differnce between your machine and mine is the CPU. You have a 1600+, I have a 2700+. If you go back and check your CPUMark you should see that that's the only place our scores really differ. Wings of Fury just happens to be CPU dependent. Also, compare the CPU test scores. Mine are double what yours are.

Main Test Results
3DMark Score 3778 3DMarks

CPU Score 512.0 CPUMarks

Detailed Test Results

Game Tests
GT1 - Wings of Fury 129.6 fps

GT2 - Battle of Proxycon 22.8 fps

GT3 - Troll's Lair 21.3 fps

GT4 - Mother Nature 25.4 fps

CPU Tests
CPU Test 1 56.7 fps

CPU Test 2 9.2 fps

Feature Tests
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 909.1 MTexels/s

Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 1923.7 MTexels/s

Vertex Shader 13.0 fps

Pixel Shader 2.0 35.6 fps

Ragtroll 14.8 fps

jamil5454
05-29-2004, 07:08 PM
Another problem could be that the GPU is memory-bandwidth starved. I have almost the exact same system you do:

athlonxp 1800
512 PC2100
sapphire 9600pro
cat. 4.5

and my card overclocks to ~ 520/375 without visual artifacts. This is with everything stock too. I noticed that the performance increase is more sensitive to the RAM than to the GPU. Of course this doesn't apply in all situations, such as fill-rate testing.

But it probably is your CPU, although I wouldn't upgrade your system until it's the system that starts giving you unplayable framerates (almost always it's the graphics card).