RedStar
05-28-2004, 07:41 AM
Why are so many Americans so fat?
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AdamST
05-28-2004, 07:51 AM
fast food and computers
fishybawb
05-28-2004, 07:56 AM
No exercise and a high sugar diet, same reasons we're having obesity problems with kids in the UK now. Things are going badly wrong when a 3 year old girl dies from heart failure due to her obesity :(
alivin
05-28-2004, 08:39 AM
I think the fact of American food being soo cheap has a lot to do with it. I was picking up some sushi from the only place in town, last night, which also is a really good chinese buffet.
I eat there sometimes, $8.95 for all the sushi or steak or bbq ribs or fresh donuts.........................
I can't help it I eat way too much but I'm lucky I do tile and carpentry, it helps work it off.
Now I'm hungry :)
I eat there sometimes, $8.95 for all the sushi or steak or bbq ribs or fresh donuts.........................
I can't help it I eat way too much but I'm lucky I do tile and carpentry, it helps work it off.
Now I'm hungry :)
werz
05-28-2004, 09:29 AM
Why do we worry about terrorists from the middle east, the fast food terrorists here are gonna kill us soon enough.
werz
05-28-2004, 09:29 AM
and get rich doing it.
rsfnatik
05-28-2004, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by alivin
I can't help it...
This doesn't necessarily apply to you alvin, like you said, you have an active lifestyle that helps keep you trim. Doesn't mean it's healthy tho. :) But a lot people either believe or have convinced themselves that there is nothing they can do to be "fit", so they just continue lining up for fast food, snacking on the couch and living a lethargic lifestyle and pack on more weight all the while. Even if they acknowledge the problem most look for a magic little pill, some kind of powdered weight loss drink or a "diet" as a means of shedding a few pounds or going under the knife. :eek: Diet and exercise are all that's required... provided that you actually care and can find the motivation.
In regards to the buffet's and "supersizing" of portions... people feel obligated to stuff themselves because of the "value". How much food one gets for their money has an impact that some people just can't refuse and they eat beyond their fill.
People need to understand that the average diet these days is excessive in regard to nutrition and portion sizing. What's needed is a lifestyle change... a simple "diet" will not suffice. We eat too much and what we do eat is usually overprocessed/refinded, packed with sugar, fat and salt. Combine that with the fact that many people sit in a chair from 9-5/M-F and live the rest of their lives on the couch and you end up a level of obesity that has reached epidemic levels.
Obesity is a problem in America, Canada and, as Fishy pointed out, in the UK. I'm seeing it in children more and more and it's sad...
I can't help it...
This doesn't necessarily apply to you alvin, like you said, you have an active lifestyle that helps keep you trim. Doesn't mean it's healthy tho. :) But a lot people either believe or have convinced themselves that there is nothing they can do to be "fit", so they just continue lining up for fast food, snacking on the couch and living a lethargic lifestyle and pack on more weight all the while. Even if they acknowledge the problem most look for a magic little pill, some kind of powdered weight loss drink or a "diet" as a means of shedding a few pounds or going under the knife. :eek: Diet and exercise are all that's required... provided that you actually care and can find the motivation.
In regards to the buffet's and "supersizing" of portions... people feel obligated to stuff themselves because of the "value". How much food one gets for their money has an impact that some people just can't refuse and they eat beyond their fill.
People need to understand that the average diet these days is excessive in regard to nutrition and portion sizing. What's needed is a lifestyle change... a simple "diet" will not suffice. We eat too much and what we do eat is usually overprocessed/refinded, packed with sugar, fat and salt. Combine that with the fact that many people sit in a chair from 9-5/M-F and live the rest of their lives on the couch and you end up a level of obesity that has reached epidemic levels.
Obesity is a problem in America, Canada and, as Fishy pointed out, in the UK. I'm seeing it in children more and more and it's sad...
werz
05-28-2004, 10:06 AM
how dare you brag like that, us Aussies are just as fat.
sjd
05-28-2004, 10:20 AM
Recently read an article about how the cost of treating obesity related health problems is projected to bypass smoking health costs.
Can $6.00 Twinkies be that far off?
Can $6.00 Twinkies be that far off?
Tech^salvager
05-28-2004, 10:59 AM
I blame it on the fast food restruants espically Mcdonalds. But I eat from there to like their greasy double cheese burgers but I play DDR(Dance Dance Revolution) which helps work out my body. Hey I weigh 120lbs at 5feet 9inches' and I am a american that lives in the U.S.A.
NJEnviroguy
05-28-2004, 11:05 AM
:sigh: I know more people who are in good shape than out of shape people...and my mom's side of the family has several "obese" people in it.
Why do so many people in the world eat food that is not "organically" grown and handled in ways that reduce the amount of chemicals introduced in them. I think if more people focussed on this than the whole obesity issue than we wouldn't have the latter as prevalent in most industrialized countries.
Why do so many people in the world eat food that is not "organically" grown and handled in ways that reduce the amount of chemicals introduced in them. I think if more people focussed on this than the whole obesity issue than we wouldn't have the latter as prevalent in most industrialized countries.
mireland
05-28-2004, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by RedStar
Why are so many Americans so fat?
hey hey now..I'm down to 320. I Now only eat TWO meals a day at Mcdonalds...:rolleyes:
Why are so many Americans so fat?
hey hey now..I'm down to 320. I Now only eat TWO meals a day at Mcdonalds...:rolleyes:
rsfnatik
05-28-2004, 11:42 AM
I know this is a bad movie to use an example... but love the whole Taco Bell thing in Demolition Man... the "franchise wars"... (yes, i'm sure there are better examples... but on Friday morning, this is the only one that's coming to me). Basically... Taco Bell became the *only* restaurant and anything unhealthy was banned for the good of the people, I hope it doesn't come to that tho. I like a big fat juicy steak like the rest of us... I just don't eat it every day of the week. :) Mmm.... steak... <insert Homer drooling here>.
There may be some merit to your $6.00 Twinkie tho sjd... hitting people in the pocket may limit ones desire for these foods, tho I think there are other, more constructive motivators for living a healthy lifestyle.
There may be some merit to your $6.00 Twinkie tho sjd... hitting people in the pocket may limit ones desire for these foods, tho I think there are other, more constructive motivators for living a healthy lifestyle.
werz
05-28-2004, 12:39 PM
you need a good dose of mad cows disease, like the Brits, It may put you off eating beef for a while.
I was gonna remark about no one noticing any difference cos a fair % of the population may as well have it for the sense they make, but thats a bit cruel. Sorry
I was gonna remark about no one noticing any difference cos a fair % of the population may as well have it for the sense they make, but thats a bit cruel. Sorry
j.m@talk
05-28-2004, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by RedStar
Why are so many Americans so fat?
Cos they eat too much ...............
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Why are so many Americans so fat?
Cos they eat too much ...............
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mireland
05-28-2004, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by j.m@talk
Cos they eat too much ...............
..........Ding..........Next :t
:rolleyes:
Cos they eat too much ...............
..........Ding..........Next :t
:rolleyes:
j.m@talk
05-28-2004, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by mireland
:rolleyes:
Well tiz troo :cool:
I think education has a role here, your taught not to mess with water ...... As its posible to fall in & perhaps drown
So perhaps you lot shouldn't be swimming in the fat Fryer :D
When I've eaten this meat pie I will post more on the subject :t
:rolleyes:
Well tiz troo :cool:
I think education has a role here, your taught not to mess with water ...... As its posible to fall in & perhaps drown
So perhaps you lot shouldn't be swimming in the fat Fryer :D
When I've eaten this meat pie I will post more on the subject :t
mireland
05-28-2004, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by j.m@talk
Well tiz troo :cool:
I think education has a role here, your taught not to mess with water ...... As its posible to fall in & perhaps drown
So perhaps you lot shouldn't be swimming in the fat Fryer :D
When I've eaten this meat pie I will post more on the subject :t
what I love is people who drink them "low carb" "low calorie" soft drinks because they are watching their intake..HELLO..TRY WATER YOU BAFOONS...THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WATCHING YOUR INTAKE YOU HERBERTS! :D
Well tiz troo :cool:
I think education has a role here, your taught not to mess with water ...... As its posible to fall in & perhaps drown
So perhaps you lot shouldn't be swimming in the fat Fryer :D
When I've eaten this meat pie I will post more on the subject :t
what I love is people who drink them "low carb" "low calorie" soft drinks because they are watching their intake..HELLO..TRY WATER YOU BAFOONS...THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WATCHING YOUR INTAKE YOU HERBERTS! :D
Billforce
05-28-2004, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by j.m@talk
Cos they eat too much ...............
..........Ding..........Next :t
Primarily because they CAN..........as an example, there are NO FAT PEOPLE in Cuba. The first thing you notice in recent video's from Havana, is the collective THINNESS of the people there. NO food, no fat.....get it?
Cos they eat too much ...............
..........Ding..........Next :t
Primarily because they CAN..........as an example, there are NO FAT PEOPLE in Cuba. The first thing you notice in recent video's from Havana, is the collective THINNESS of the people there. NO food, no fat.....get it?
chriswhitelaw
05-28-2004, 03:03 PM
Was this really a nessacary thread seriously! you have nothing better to talk about then Americans being fat. I tell you what you come to America and say something like that to a overweight person and see what happens. Me being a overweight person myself does not apprecaite this thread at all. Being overweight is a disease and cannot be helped. I didn't start out being overweight I was a mere 135lbs. 10 years ago now I'm at 217lbs. why you ask because of stress kids and work and especially being married and it really doesn't help that there's a Mcdonald's right around the corner.
herosrest
05-28-2004, 03:16 PM
Don't talk. Eat!
sm8000
05-28-2004, 03:28 PM
It CAN be helped.
mireland
05-28-2004, 03:32 PM
I do think for a SMALL minority of people, obesity is a disease, for the rest of us, we're just lazy and like to eat..:t
Billforce
05-28-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by chriswhitelaw
Was this really a nessacary thread seriously! you have nothing better to talk about then Americans being fat. I tell you what you come to America and say something like that to a overweight person and see what happens. Me being a overweight person myself does not apprecaite this thread at all. Being overweight is a disease and cannot be helped. I didn't start out being overweight I was a mere 135lbs. 10 years ago now I'm at 217lbs. why you ask because of stress kids and work and especially being married and it really doesn't help that there's a Mcdonald's right around the corner.
You need one of those rings they put around the neck of an albotross, EAT all you want, you just can't swallow.:r :r
Was this really a nessacary thread seriously! you have nothing better to talk about then Americans being fat. I tell you what you come to America and say something like that to a overweight person and see what happens. Me being a overweight person myself does not apprecaite this thread at all. Being overweight is a disease and cannot be helped. I didn't start out being overweight I was a mere 135lbs. 10 years ago now I'm at 217lbs. why you ask because of stress kids and work and especially being married and it really doesn't help that there's a Mcdonald's right around the corner.
You need one of those rings they put around the neck of an albotross, EAT all you want, you just can't swallow.:r :r
sjd
05-28-2004, 04:01 PM
There was a time when in some cultures being overweight was a sign of wealth.
leprechaun_40
05-28-2004, 04:39 PM
Just came from my doctors office, lost another 6 lbs!!! I'm getting closer to my goal of 200lbs. I was a fat 250 a year ago. Since I dumped soda and all sweets, I'm now down to 212. I had to, I was diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic last year. I feel better and look better too.
You can lose it if you want or have to, cut out sugars, and get off yer backsides and move away from the computer.:eek: :t Go outside, you know, where the bright light is, and get some fresh air, even a walk will help.:D
You can lose it if you want or have to, cut out sugars, and get off yer backsides and move away from the computer.:eek: :t Go outside, you know, where the bright light is, and get some fresh air, even a walk will help.:D
j.m@talk
05-28-2004, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Billforce
Primarily because they CAN..........as an example, there are NO FAT PEOPLE in Cuba. The first thing you notice in recent video's from Havana, is the collective THINNESS of the people there. NO food, no fat.....get it?
So ya'all should go & see Uncle Fidel :p
Primarily because they CAN..........as an example, there are NO FAT PEOPLE in Cuba. The first thing you notice in recent video's from Havana, is the collective THINNESS of the people there. NO food, no fat.....get it?
So ya'all should go & see Uncle Fidel :p
Johnny Fist
05-28-2004, 06:48 PM
Why do all Africans have such bloated stomachs and flies crawling on their eye balls? Oh yeah, starvation. The truely amsuing thing is, in the rest of the western world we're eating to the point of obesity. God, I love living in America. I'd rather have a gut from over eating than from worms anyday.
Wheres that box of Twinkies at? I know there was one or two left in there.
Wheres that box of Twinkies at? I know there was one or two left in there.
mireland
05-28-2004, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by leprechaun_40
Just came from my doctors office, lost another 6 lbs!!! I'm getting closer to my goal of 200lbs. I was a fat 250 a year ago. Since I dumped soda and all sweets, I'm now down to 212. I had to, I was diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic last year. I feel better and look better too.
You can lose it if you want or have to, cut out sugars, and get off yer backsides and move away from the computer.:eek: :t Go outside, you know, where the bright light is, and get some fresh air, even a walk will help.:D
ARE YOU LISTENING TO THIS JM...http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/grin.gif
Just came from my doctors office, lost another 6 lbs!!! I'm getting closer to my goal of 200lbs. I was a fat 250 a year ago. Since I dumped soda and all sweets, I'm now down to 212. I had to, I was diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic last year. I feel better and look better too.
You can lose it if you want or have to, cut out sugars, and get off yer backsides and move away from the computer.:eek: :t Go outside, you know, where the bright light is, and get some fresh air, even a walk will help.:D
ARE YOU LISTENING TO THIS JM...http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/grin.gif
bushmaster
05-28-2004, 06:58 PM
Besides providing us with sustinance, food also works as an escape or drug for a lot of people.
You simply need to be more aware of your health and watch what you eat and eat it in moderation.
I can say this because I've seen both sides of the scale. At 5'9" I've been up to 230 lbs. When I realized I was just using food the same way I used booze or drugs I came to the point of enough is enough. Now at 44 I have stopped giving into the media's constant barrage of food commercials for Dunking donuts, Pizza hut, Taco Bell, etc. Those companies know they are pandering to a eating addicted society and take full advantage of it.
Do a little research into who owns some of the big fast food conglomerates and you'll find the same companies that made their fortunes selling alcohol and tobacco.
Now I'm 168 lbs and work out and run everyday and have not ventured anywhere near mickey D's or Taco smell for some time.
Oh yeah, and today makes 18 years clean and sober for me as well.
And America is not the only overweight nation. Stop picking on us.
You simply need to be more aware of your health and watch what you eat and eat it in moderation.
I can say this because I've seen both sides of the scale. At 5'9" I've been up to 230 lbs. When I realized I was just using food the same way I used booze or drugs I came to the point of enough is enough. Now at 44 I have stopped giving into the media's constant barrage of food commercials for Dunking donuts, Pizza hut, Taco Bell, etc. Those companies know they are pandering to a eating addicted society and take full advantage of it.
Do a little research into who owns some of the big fast food conglomerates and you'll find the same companies that made their fortunes selling alcohol and tobacco.
Now I'm 168 lbs and work out and run everyday and have not ventured anywhere near mickey D's or Taco smell for some time.
Oh yeah, and today makes 18 years clean and sober for me as well.
And America is not the only overweight nation. Stop picking on us.
Johnny Fist
05-28-2004, 09:02 PM
Congrats on your 18 years!
The guy that started this thread is only trying to stir up trouble. The last one got deleted I think, but it was the same sort of "lets get on America" thing.
I'd be jealous if I lived in Africa, too. I don't blame him.
The guy that started this thread is only trying to stir up trouble. The last one got deleted I think, but it was the same sort of "lets get on America" thing.
I'd be jealous if I lived in Africa, too. I don't blame him.
werz
05-29-2004, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by leprechaun_40
You can lose it if you want or have to, cut out sugars, and get off yer backsides and move away from the computer.:eek: :t Go outside, you know, where the bright light is, and get some fresh air, even a walk will help.:D [/B]
you taking thing to the extremes asking us fatties to do that!:eek:
You can lose it if you want or have to, cut out sugars, and get off yer backsides and move away from the computer.:eek: :t Go outside, you know, where the bright light is, and get some fresh air, even a walk will help.:D [/B]
you taking thing to the extremes asking us fatties to do that!:eek:
mireland
05-29-2004, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by werz
you taking thing to the extremes asking us fatties to do that!:eek:
I should try to cut back to at LEAST 6 big macs a day...:rolleyes:
:D
you taking thing to the extremes asking us fatties to do that!:eek:
I should try to cut back to at LEAST 6 big macs a day...:rolleyes:
:D
Billforce
05-29-2004, 01:32 AM
When you get on the talking scales and a voice message is played saying : "One at a time, please".:D :D
It's time to cut back on the grits.
It's time to cut back on the grits.
werz
05-29-2004, 01:39 AM
A straight jacket and one of them golf ball gizmos you see strapped on someone's head in bondage ad's (at least thats where I'll admit to seeing them) is the only way to stop the biggest gluttons who stalk the fast food joints.:r
mireland
05-29-2004, 01:43 AM
Originally posted by Billforce
When you get on the talking scales and a voice message is played saying : "One at a time, please".:D :D
It's time to cut back on the grits.
you know someone is too fat if you walk around the person and meet someone coming around the other side...:D
When you get on the talking scales and a voice message is played saying : "One at a time, please".:D :D
It's time to cut back on the grits.
you know someone is too fat if you walk around the person and meet someone coming around the other side...:D
werz
05-29-2004, 02:39 AM
when we were little kids and growing up in the country, one of the gang had a huge mum, and he used to get upset coz when ever we heard a cow bellow, we'd say Brooka ya ma's callin.
kids can be cruel.
kids can be cruel.
werz
05-29-2004, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by j.m@talk
So ya'all should go & see Uncle Fidel :p
another reason for the lack of fatties in Cuba is o'l uncle Fidels 12hr long speech's if you get up to walk out on one you get arrested. an no macca's probably helps.
So ya'all should go & see Uncle Fidel :p
another reason for the lack of fatties in Cuba is o'l uncle Fidels 12hr long speech's if you get up to walk out on one you get arrested. an no macca's probably helps.
j.m@talk
05-29-2004, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by mireland
ARE YOU LISTENING TO THIS JM...http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/grin.gif
34" Waist me......... Thats annorexic to you Lardies :p
ARE YOU LISTENING TO THIS JM...http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/grin.gif
34" Waist me......... Thats annorexic to you Lardies :p
werz
05-29-2004, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Johnny Fist
Congrats on your 18 years!
The guy that started this thread is only trying to stir up trouble. The last one got deleted I think, but it was the same sort of "lets get on America" thing.
I'd be jealous if I lived in Africa, too. I don't blame him.
You could always go on the Jo'burg diet, HIV, I believe it really knocks the weight off.
Congrats on your 18 years!
The guy that started this thread is only trying to stir up trouble. The last one got deleted I think, but it was the same sort of "lets get on America" thing.
I'd be jealous if I lived in Africa, too. I don't blame him.
You could always go on the Jo'burg diet, HIV, I believe it really knocks the weight off.
Billforce
05-29-2004, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by werz
You could always go on the Jo'burg diet, HIV, I believe it really knocks the weight off.
I heard that the Jo'burg Diet was Pizza, Tortillas, pancakes, or anything else you can slid under the door.:D
You could always go on the Jo'burg diet, HIV, I believe it really knocks the weight off.
I heard that the Jo'burg Diet was Pizza, Tortillas, pancakes, or anything else you can slid under the door.:D
chriswhitelaw
05-30-2004, 12:09 AM
Johnny Fist is right, the person who started this, Redstar has not posted anything since he started this rediculous thread. Typical to start something and not come back with his 2 cents on the matter. Shows you how much he knows about America.
j.m@talk
05-30-2004, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by chriswhitelaw
Typical to start something and not come back.......
http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/dontfeedtrolls.gif
Typical to start something and not come back.......
http://www.fancysplace.com/smileys/dontfeedtrolls.gif
rsfnatik
05-31-2004, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by bushmaster
And America is not the only overweight nation. Stop picking on us.
Not picking on you at all, there's a lot of fat up here in Canada too.
And America is not the only overweight nation. Stop picking on us.
Not picking on you at all, there's a lot of fat up here in Canada too.
michaeln
05-31-2004, 04:22 PM
Recent US study showed that anywhere a McDonalds opened, local obesity greatly increased.
COLN
05-31-2004, 05:27 PM
A little logic and portion control would end the obesity epidemic. In McD's the other day to buy my usual two senior coffees for only .52; the lady in front of me ordered that new healthy meal (salad and pedometer) Of course she added an order of fries, supersized and a dessert. Really hard not to say a thing but I kept quiet. She was eating alone.
Billforce
05-31-2004, 10:19 PM
Womens logic? It doesn't count if your only getting fat around the "BODY".:D :D
The Lodge
06-01-2004, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by chriswhitelaw
Being overweight is a disease and cannot be helped.
Anybody see that Dennis Leary stand up, No cure for cancer? "I'm not actually over eating, I'm trying to keep the virus at bay."
Being overweight is a disease and cannot be helped.
Anybody see that Dennis Leary stand up, No cure for cancer? "I'm not actually over eating, I'm trying to keep the virus at bay."
AdamST
06-02-2004, 12:33 PM
Obesity rates (percentage of population) among adults from selected OECD countries for 2000.
U.S.: 30.9%
Britain: 22%
Australia: 20.8%
Canada: 14.9%
Spain: 12.6%
France: 9%
Italy: 8.6%
Japan: 3.2%
U.S.: 30.9%
Britain: 22%
Australia: 20.8%
Canada: 14.9%
Spain: 12.6%
France: 9%
Italy: 8.6%
Japan: 3.2%
Johnny Fist
06-02-2004, 06:36 PM
Good job, Adam, now apply that knowledge to something productive and you'll make daddy proud.
PROUD, DADDY, PROUD!!!
PROUD, DADDY, PROUD!!!
RedStar
06-03-2004, 02:22 AM
I just found out in a news article that South Africa is reaching US obesity levels. Very alarming though it's not noticeable in urban areas. Most obese people live in rural areas.
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