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Esquire
04-01-1999, 01:45 PM
Hello all I'm in a bind and need your help......

Here's my story, My name is Charles Bittner (most of you know me as Esquire). I Live in new hampshire USA, and I'm 24 year old. I'm a Quadrapligic (can't move from the chest down) but it's no biggy. I live with my parents (major drag, but they are great people, still a drag). I've been using comps for a couple of years, and there my ticket to getting out on my own...yeah... http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif. soon

Here is my problem, I am getting ripped off by a caputo (for new comers caputo= a person who rips people off and is just a plain lyer) like indivdual. His Name is William Souder, he is one of he moderators of the www.hardwarecentral.com (http://www.hardwarecentral.com) bbs his user name is tristen. and the ower of Souder tech. www.soudertech.com (http://www.soudertech.com) in Atlanta.

What happend was i was pulling together parts so i could do video capture (I have always loved editing video.) It's my dream job..... So i stumble across this thread, I wanted SCSI, BINGO www.hardwarecentral.com/discussion/Forum9/HTML/000033.html (http://www.hardwarecentral.com/discussion/Forum9/HTML/000033.html)
So after some phone conversations, I sent him the money, in money order form for a SCSI card and drive (325.00). He recived it on December 26, 1998 Yes everyone 3 months ago......And ever scice he has been lying to me constantly... it's been shipped, oh someone didn't ship it...on and on. oh I'm waiting to get the drive back from sun, it was bad....
You would be amazed what lines i've been told......Man o man
Here's his latest..... Remeber it matters not that you have nothing I do not care about that if you place one single call in negation.....Charles. You do not want to know what i'm capable of if i say wait two weeks you do just that, if I say wait however long you do just that. You call the Speedway Charles....lets put it this way you are over stepping you bounds, you calling them will make no difference whatsoever i my in how my business is handled with them, you'd just better not.
I've been calm and cool..... He never returnes my calls NEVER. now I have given him my direct deposit number so there is no excuss (don't worry there is only 10 dollars in the account).
And he now has put me on call block................

So this is my situation.... And I need your help.Please Help.....
william@soudertech.com
So if you could help i would be so grateful...... Just send him and tell him to refund my money.
I thank you so much for your time.... I'll keep you posted.......

Esq.


[This message has been edited by Esquire (edited 04-01-99).]

lrs
04-01-1999, 02:26 PM
Hi, If I were you and have proof of the purchase, I'd tell him that he be hearing from my lawyer and the better business bureau.

Larry

Esquire
04-01-1999, 02:31 PM
A layer i wish.... It's 325.00 a layer would be higher priced than that..... I contacted the bbb, but who knows how long it will take.....
Esq.

ANTONIO E GUERRA
04-01-1999, 03:57 PM
YOU CAN STILL REPORT TO THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND SEND A COMPLAIN TO THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU. YOU CAN SEND PAPERS TO SMALL CLAIMS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN NEGLIGENT. HERE IN ATLANTA WE HAVE SEVERAL WAYS TO REPORT THIS INCIDENT. GET IN TOUCH WITH THE COMPUTER CURRENTS AND SEND A LETTER. LET EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY DID TO YOU. KEEP A RECORD OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEND THEM --i PREFER CERTIFIED MAIL. IF YOU WANT TO GO SMALL CLAIMS, YOU WILL NEED ALL THE PAPERWORK. IT IS REALLY A SHAME. NEXT TIME CHECK PRICEWATCH. GOOD LUCK.

Esquire
04-01-1999, 04:08 PM
I alanta who can i call.....?
Thanks......

Esquire
04-01-1999, 05:21 PM
Heres the thread on hardware central, it may be gone soon
http://www.hardwarecentral.com/discussion/Forum9/HTML/000584.html

ANTONIO E GUERRA
04-01-1999, 05:44 PM
Here in Atlanta we have a magazine called "Computer Currents". They have their own website. Send them a letter to the editor.

Bleeding Edge
04-01-1999, 05:52 PM
Call CBS, NBS, ABC news.
Or
Copy these posts and email them.

You know, they all have that news segment where they go out and help people.

I think they would pick up on this story.

We'll be watching. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

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Esquire
04-01-1999, 06:10 PM
I looked up computer currents, but found one in CA....... No atlanta
Esq.

ANTONIO E GUERRA
04-01-1999, 09:42 PM
Yes, they have an edition in Atlanta. This magazine is very popular among technicians and it has a great impact in the business. Their website address is www.currents.net. You can send a letter to the editor via e-mail at letters@compcurr.com.

gruven
04-02-1999, 12:40 AM
man I hate people like that....they give us other vendors and builders a real bad name....Anyway...ever heard of MaximunPC?
Only best computer mag there is....no comparison. And they have an article there about complaints about companies and vendors that screw people around....called "The Watchdog". And they REALLY follow up on them...you don't want to get a bad review or article printed about your company from them.....All the articles I read about complaints in there usually get solved pretty quickly after being published. Well....check it out...May be able to help.
Address is http://www.maximumpc.com

And if all else fails, let me know and I'll get you a card and drive at my cost. And you can send half, then half after you get it. Don't usually do that but really hate to see people taken advantage of like this. In all...good luck.

gruven

Bleeding Edge
04-02-1999, 12:46 AM
Good guy. gruven.

I'd still like to see the story splashed all over TV on the network news.

MrEd
04-02-1999, 11:14 AM
I'd like to see this all over the news myself. I wish the best of luck to ya. I think I speak for alot of people here when I say we're with ya.

Ya know guys, there's been some stories about the serbian government hackers flooding NATO servers with email, sorta like "Melissa" syndrome. Kinda gives me some bad thoughts if you know what I mean?????? http://www.sysopt.com/forum/wink.gif

gruven
04-02-1999, 11:51 AM
Hehe...MrED.
Didn't really think of that....man...we could trash that guy.....hehehehe
Hmmm.....well...we'l give him a week or so to settle things...let's make sure we follow this up.

gruven
04-02-1999, 11:55 AM
Oh...one other thing...if your into video editing I've got an ATI All-In-Wonder Pro I'll be getting rid of as soon as the TNT-2 is released.....great card for video editing....sell ya dirt cheap whenerver I can get ahold of a TNT-2.

Esquire
04-02-1999, 01:42 PM
I thank all of you, for your help... I don't want to make you all help me, or am i looking for a kickdown (but thankful I am...so much http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gifyou all rock) I just want this man. to pay, what he owes me... He's a con, and I feel hurt for his actions... He has called me but he just yelled, and threated me... but he called hasn't done that in months. he kept telling me on wednesday i'd have it.. i've heard that for months He has done something to my mail account, I can't send or recive anything.. my icq is 15523512, i have an mp3 of a message left on my machine, but i can't send it... this typing is a work out BIG TIME. http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
So If anyone wants the message i got it k..
My dads checking on mail fraud... He's postal employee. Thanks all.. so much.... keep e-mailing him he loves it.... http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Esq.
My e-mail is mresquire@email.com

brandon184
04-02-1999, 11:28 PM
Obviously, This guy who won't give you a refund or anything, is a sick individual. I can also tell this from the letters & quotes you gave in your first post..."Over Stepping Your Bounds"??? I think you have a right to overstep your bounds if you sent him over 300 dollars and haven't gotten anything in return. If this were to happen to me, I'd be contacting my lawyer.

alan
04-03-1999, 03:13 PM
so tell me esq how do you know that this guy has messed with your email acc
just curious
im not insensitive to your plight but that aint poss is it
he would need your user name and password....?
wouldnt he
hope you get it sorted
oh i have also seen your post's at www.hardwarecentral.com\cgi-bin\discussion\
and some of the reply's from sys administrators

Esquire
04-03-1999, 05:47 PM
Well Alen, My e-mail, wont download from my pop3 account, outlook 98 and express just sits their, stuck on message one.... I would think it was the proggy, but just after it started happening, he ask me on the phone "you having trouble sending and rcieving mail." he did it I think.... so i'm waiting to see...
Monday I think.....
Thanks all

brandon184
04-03-1999, 06:22 PM
I emailed him and recieved a reply within hours ago. He told me you have resolved the situation and not to send him email again. From the email he sent me he sounds like a real JERK.

If you would like me to help you with anything, feel free to email me at petrie23@hotmail.com, or contact me on ICQ. My UIN is 1694943.

Cya Later,

Brandon

Esquire
04-03-1999, 07:06 PM
We haven't resolved anything....
Not till the money is in hand I've heard it a million times check this
it is ready don't worry sound bad but believe me this time K.
yeah... right..
Thanks for helping out and emailing him...
Esq.

brandon184
04-03-1999, 11:26 PM
no problem. he seems pretty strange. almost like a little kid. overall, im sorry to say, i wouldn't be suprised if he plans on never paying you..if I were in your situation, I would contact my lawyer to see what can be done without going through anything extreme.

brandon184
04-04-1999, 08:10 PM
I recieved another email from William Souder today. He said, "OK Everyone Emailing me, I get the Point. You may not take me to court. You can't take me to court."

Something that comes to mind is... Not to Bright?!

If someone wants to take him to court, he's OBLIGATED to show up. Theres no option to whether or not he goes, and if he doesn't show up, he is major trouble with the law.

Esquire
04-06-1999, 12:04 AM
Brandon184, I talkd with mr. souder, about someone named brandon.... He was saying, he was gonna get you band from hotmail
My friend at Hotmail, is taking care of him.
If anything happens let us know... I think it's you... Your fliping him out.... bad brandon bad http://www.sysopt.com/forum/smile.gif
Esq.
Todays the day...... lets see what happens
Thanks all.....
Esq.