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sm8000
04-21-2004, 11:32 AM
I'm curious to wonder who would make the most use of this?

nam_ng
04-21-2004, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by sm8000
I'm curious to wonder who would make the most use of this?
Anyone who wanted well run hardware with great backward compatibility AND good bandwidth management for example...

Just because you have 4GB/s system bandwidth which is the limit normally defined by system memory, not your CPU.

It didn't mean that you actually wanted some 100MB/s harddisk controllers to hog all 4GB/s just to do 100MB/s data transfers. Your machine would be stuttering while Multi-task.

It didn't mean that you actually wanted some 10MB/s video capture devices to hog all 4GB/s just to do 10MB/s data transfers. Your machine would be stuttering while Multi-task.

It didn't mean that you actually wanted some 6MB/s 48x_CD burners to hog all 4GB/s just to do 6MB/s on-the-fly CD2CD data transfers. Your machine would be stuttering while Multi-task.

It didn't mean that you actually wanted some 5MB/s sound cards to hog all 4GB/s just to do 5MB/s data transfers. Your machine would be stuttering while Multi-task.

It didn't mean that you actually wanted some 2GB/s CPUs to hog all 4GB/s just to do 2GB/s data transfers. Your machine would be stuttering while Multi-task.

Your machine would be always be stuttering if all hardware in your machine are bandwidth hogging nasties the likes of other hogging nasties such as ATI video cards, SB cards, AOL, MS, Intel, etc... All of them are f**king nasties, they wanted the whole enchilada for themselves and shared nothing with no ones, even if they can't use all the bandwidth. Ever see a puny hardware mouse cursor brought everything down to a stuttering halt?

No, typical secretaries shouldn't be hogging the intranet backbone whenever they please just to get their spreadsheets.

Hey...!! Typical hardware are kind of like most people, eh? Hogging everything and shared nothing; ever see one puny little car double-parking in 2 double-wide parking spaces? :D

Most of them yet learn the how-to of proper Torrents.

CrazyCrusher
04-21-2004, 11:52 PM
Revised PCI wow, think they might be telling us that we are not even ready for PCI Express dont you think? why Revise the current PCI when PCI express is in the work?

RamonGTP
04-22-2004, 04:28 PM
I'm sure PCI and PCI Express will co-exist for some time still. Remember how long the ISA bus was around even after the introduction of PCI?

nam_ng
04-22-2004, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by CrazyCrusher
Revised PCI wow, think they might be telling us that we are not even ready for PCI Express dont you think? why Revise the current PCI when PCI express is in the work?
Not if you've an older P4 CPU, old P4s can only handle ~4 simultaneous multiple data streams, Xeon series can only do 5.

None of them had a use for simultaneous 16 data streams PCI-E is able of. Example below of Xeon DUALIE...

http://a480.g.akamai.net/7/480/51/2542e9d2333094/www.apple.com/powermac/images/indexstreamingwide11172003.jpg

Single Opteron or single K7 can do 8 streams without breaking a sweat.

cheeseman
04-28-2004, 05:13 PM
So Is the AGP slot going to go Away

And I thought my AGP 8x slot was cool but soon it will be like "you only have AGP 8x that is so slow!!!"

CrazyCrusher
04-28-2004, 05:42 PM
Ah I wouldnt worrie about that for a long!!!! time dude.

RhymeTyme
04-28-2004, 11:05 PM
the 4x standard for AGP is more than sufficient for games today. What i mean is that no game, at all, as of the time of this post, uses the entire 4x bandwidth. I have a 4x motherboard, and i can run things just as fast as an 8x board, with the same card. I underclock my radeon to 4x, and it works just as good as my friends, who uses an 8x version of the same card. we get close to the exact same framerate, i optimize my stuff more than him, so i usllay get 3-6 more frames per secind than he does. go me!!!