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RTodd
03-04-1999, 04:14 AM
System:
Abit bx6 rev2, 128mb, celeron 300a@450
Hercules Dynamite TNT, SoundBlaster Live
FirePort 40 scsi, ibm ultrastar 9lzx
yamaha 4416s
Cannot get yamaha cd recognized at all. Hard drive is working fine with the fireport.

Fireport is scsi id: 7
HDD is scsi id: 0 (1st in chain)
yamaha -scsi id: 3 (2nd in chain,terminated)

scsi cable is 68 pin with 3 connectors. One to the fireport, second to hdd, third to a 50-pin converter into yamaha.

Cannot recognize cdr using fireports aspi8xx.sys and symcd.sys drivers. The aspi is first in config.sys and it hangs there. Cannot see it using nt setup with fireport drivers either.

Fireport is detecting the yamaha in its bios. Diamond says try switching it to synch rate of 20 and disabling queing. Have tried that without success.

Have tried using incluced yamaha 50 pin scsi cable from fireport 50 pin directly to yamaha 50 pin without success.

Have switched id's on the yamaha without success.

Interesting thing is if I ctrl-alt-delete reset the computer then often the fireport bios does not recognize the yamaha being there. But toggle power on pc, it always detects it.

Still cannot get the dos aspi or nt drivers to recognize it for the life of me.

I am also using the newest fireport 40 drivers - 06/24/98 - Version 2.02 and have flashed the bios to the newest version -4.09.06
This is my first time mucking with scsi stuff. If anybody has any clues I would sure appreciate them.

--Todd

Don Wanna B
03-08-1999, 03:44 AM
Your set up is this correct?

Fireport {term} >> HD >> 4416s {term}

I have not dealt with the Fireport products. Just make sure the fireport is terminating its end of the SCSI chain. It may do this with autotermination, or have manual jumpers on the card, in your SCSI setup it must be terminated. Read the manual make sure.

One possible problem with your setup is the fact that you have a 50 pin device terminating a 68 pin line. 50 pin devices only use low bit while 68 pin device use low and high bit. Both high and low need to be terminated at the end of the SCSI chain, your 4416s may not be terminating the high bit. Since you are using an adaptor to drop to 50 pin, the adaptor would need to terminate the high bit, many don't. This is only a problem when the pin adaptor is hooked to the last device on the chain which must be terminated. To fix this move the harddrive to the end of the cable and terminate it, unterminate the cdrw and put it on the middle connector.

Make sure you have the newest firmware revision for the Yamaha, alot where shipped with version 1.0b and currently they are version 1.0F. You can download the firmware update from

http://www.yamahayst.com/techsup/index.html

Select "upgrade for all Yamaha recorders"
there should be dos and windows version of the upgrade. The dos version is much more stable and usuable. The windows version may work for you but alot of people have problems. Understand that with SCSI devices have their device drivers stored on the actual hardware, this is what firmware is. Doing a firmware update is basically the same as doing a bios flash on your motherboard. Take your time read the instructions and I strongly reccommend the dos version.

Move the ID of your 4416s to 5. This device does not like ID 6 for some reason but the ID should be higher than 3. ID 5 is the best for your situation.