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_Mystical_Night
03-05-2004, 07:33 AM
Abit has always been known to make good quality motherboards :) , the do seem to be a little picky with which ram they get along with tho.
I just hope someone who doesnt know much about pc's actually tries to test and see just how "bullet proof" the mobo really is
Bluehail
03-05-2004, 01:55 PM
Somebody will test it with live ammunition, find their product destroyed, and sue ABIT.
AnimalMother
03-05-2004, 02:32 PM
I've always used ABIT boards, and I have never had trouble with RAM. The one thing to check is the RAM voltage in SoftMenu. The latest RAM that I used was Mushkin, and I had to set the voltage up to 2.7V, but this is what is required by Mushkin specs. Of course if you use cheap garbage RAM, then expect cheap garbage results.
Oatmeal
03-06-2004, 10:26 PM
Sw33t!
SalemCat
03-10-2004, 12:27 PM
I hear a lot about "cheap garbage RAM", but have never seen it defined.
What RAM do people consider to be garbage ?
Please be specific as possible.
dosmastr
03-10-2004, 04:20 PM
i think its just marketing for the already industry leading job that they have been doing for a while now.....
they just figured hey, our stuff rocks, and this is why, lets add a bullet point (no pun intended) to our retail boxes
dosmastr
03-10-2004, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by SalemCat
I hear a lot about "cheap garbage RAM", but have never seen it defined.
What RAM do people consider to be garbage ?
Please be specific as possible.
i would just say, no name memory, that is sold as cheap as possible.... some of its good some is barely doing what it was made for
and i don't belieb he meant abit didn't get along with junk ram, though i'm sure that could be true too, often high performance parts don't get along, like corsair or OCZ ram (two vendors of premium speed/quality memory) might have a bug or two with a couple boards but run fantasticly on everything else and when they get the glitch figured out.... runs great on everything
SalemCat
03-10-2004, 05:45 PM
The Abit Bulletproof sounds really good. I've had too many MB's by JetWay, ECS, PCChips, even GigaByte that just stopped working for no good reason.
But matching RAM to a MB by Trial-&-Error sounds like a Bad Risk, too.
Has anyone purchased an Abit Board from any Mail Order Vendor with some RAM, that would not work together? I'm really interested in a Vendor that would guarantee compatibility beforehand.
Bovon
03-10-2004, 10:03 PM
Abit is still in damage control mode.
When motherboards were failing right and left 3 ~ 4 years ago from the bad capacitor SNAFU, Abit put the screws into their long time Abit ONLY customer base. RMA's (at first) were non existent. Abit "assumed" their boards were dying for overclock fever...theirs being the board to beat when clocking a system.
I was (and still am) a member at amdmb.com during this time, and I'm here to tell you that there was crying and gnashing of teeth during this time. Many...many Abit die hards bought Iwill mainboards because of the high overclock-ability back then.
Abit wouldn't budge, and their customers were leaving like rats from a sinking ship. Today, much of their customer base are new. I personally know 7 or 8 long time Abit users who will never purchase another one...no matter how "bullet proof" it is.
Same thing happened to Western Digital hard drives about 7 or 8 years ago...and more recently, IBM hard drives... when the big-boys screw with their customers, they soon find themselves on the outside, looking in.
k8vol
03-11-2004, 12:15 AM
will not buy a Abit or FIC mobo for the same problems of bad Caps in the past. but both have made good over clockers and Had bad RMA problems. I have seen you liked the FIC boards in the past Bovan are you still running any how ? k8vol sk.
SalemCat
03-11-2004, 12:23 AM
Ok, maybe I'm diverging from the "ABIT Bulletproof" topic.
I thought ABIT was highly regarded. Now it seems I'm wrong.
Who makes the best MB, consistently ?
I won't be offended if someone says I should scoot over to the MB area.
k8vol
03-11-2004, 12:29 AM
No one , they all have problems some bigger then company X.
AnimalMother
03-11-2004, 04:52 PM
I've used Kingston, Corsair, Micron, and Mushkin RAM in my Abit boards over the years. The Mushkin is really the only RAM that I've overclocked.
I think that users try to overclock RAM that really isn't designed for this resulting in system instability, or "This board is ****".
I've upgraded through about 5 boards in the last 2 years and I've had not problems with any of them.
I think a lot of problems is that people tend to push the envelope too much with overclocking, and this results in short hardware life, or that basically....they dont' know what they are doing, and they run their mouths about products to cover up their stupidity.
k8vol
03-11-2004, 09:59 PM
I think a lot of problems is that people tend to push the envelope too much with overclocking, and this results in short hardware life, or that basically....they dont' know what they are doing, and they run their mouths about products to cover up their stupidity. [/B][/QUOTE] better words couldn't have been said! If you don't know then blame some one or some thing else for your problems. We all live in a world of don't blame me .
apainttown
03-12-2004, 01:13 PM
this may offer a partial explaination to mobo failures bad resin recipe (http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Feb/gee20040210023815.htm)
hope 'bullet proofing ' incluides qc reisn for conductivity
SalemCat
03-12-2004, 01:35 PM
Thank you apainttown. This is great information.
I must admire Abit for owning up to the problem. Even if they were not willing to make good to the consumers damaged by their bad MB's.
It's a shame so few Politicians and Celebrities don't follow their example.
Whether it's a MB Manufacturer or a Personality, Honesty, even when it's admitting Bad Behavior, goes a long way.
Denial, denial, denial, doesn't work for me.
Someone Stupid
03-12-2004, 01:53 PM
I just see this as a marketing scheme plain and simple. They basically are saying that they are testing some boards. I would hope they would test boards at random, that is fairly essential to quality assurance. Abit just stuck a fancy name to it and is capitalizing off practically non-existant bad caps now than from several years back when they were much more common and actually a real problem.
SalemCat
03-12-2004, 02:00 PM
Are any Abit Bulletproof MB's actually being offerred for sale yet ?
Oatmeal
03-16-2004, 03:11 PM
Does anyone know where I can get info about this board in a server?
I'm a real idiot here, totally clueless: Would anyone buy this thing for a server if it had a few extra details?? Like for instance, dual Processors, 8 DIMM sockets, etc.?
Comebacks greatly appreciated....
:cool: :t
apainttown
03-16-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Oatmeal
Does anyone know where I can get info about this board in a server?
Would anyone buy this thing for a server if it had a few extra details?? Like for instance, dual Processors, 8 DIMM sockets, etc.? not sure what ur asking. this post is not board specific..... but if u interested in Abit and what they have to offer regarding server mobo then go to Abit Server Mobos (http://www.abit-usa.com/products/servers/)
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